Jinn Clarification

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I am not sure if this is the correct section of the board to post but I wanted to find out more information about Jinn. I have heard several things but it seems more like hearsay than actual fact, so I would appreciate your knowledge on the matter.

I wanted to ask questions like:

  • What are their purpose?
  • What do they do?
  • Can they really possess you?
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* their purpose on this earth is the same as ours. To worship Allah. Allah says :" And I have not created the humans and the jinn except to worship me."
* No one knows what they can do in detail except from w hat came in the Qur'an and Sunnah. Maybe they have normal lives like we do. Allah a3lam
*yes they can possess you
 
Alpha Dude said:
^ Why does any person hurt another person?
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With humans I think it is complex because the 'hurt' one causes is most often a calculated act with a purpose of gaining something which gives reason to doing it in the first place. So what reason would Jinn have to possess a human? What do Jinn gain?
 
read this in`shaa Allah my sweet sister , may Allah love you and protect you from all harms and The Ummah Ameeeeeen

Praise be to Allaah.
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The fact that jinn can enter human bodies is proven in the Qur’aan and Sunnah, and by the consensus of Ahl al-Sunnah wa’l-Jamaa’ah, and by real-life events. No one disputes this apart from the Mu’tazilah who give priority to their own rational analysis over the evidence of the Qur’aan and Sunnah. We will mention a little about this below:

Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Those who eat Ribaa will not stand (on the Day of Resurrection) except like the standing of a person beaten by Shaytaan (Satan) leading him to insanity. That is because they say: ‘Trading is only like Ribaa’…” [al-Baqarah 2:275]
Al-Qurtubi said in his Tafseer (part 3, p. 355): “This aayah is proof that those people are wrong who deny that epilepsy is caused by the jinn and claim that its causes are only physical, and that the Shaytaan does not enter people or cause madness.”
Ibn Katheer said in his Tafseer (part 1, p. 32), after mentioning the aayah quoted above: “They will not rise from their graves on the Day of Resurrection except like the way in which the epileptic rises during his seizure, when he is beaten by the Shaytaan. This is because they will rise in a very bad state. Ibn ‘Abbaas said: the one who consumes ribaa will rise on the Day of Resurrection crazy and choking.”

According to a saheeh hadeeth narrated by al-Nasaa’i from Abu’l-Yusr, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) used to pray: “Allaahumma innee a’oodhu bika min al-taraddi wa’l-haram wa’l-gharaq wa’l-harq, wa a’oodhu bika an yatakhabatani al-shaytaan ‘ind al-mawt ( O Allaah, I seek refuge with You from being thrown from a high place, old age, drowning and burning; and I seek refuge with You from being beaten by the Shaytaan at the time of death).” Commenting on this hadeeth in Al-Fayd (part 2, p.148), al-Manaawi said: “[The phrase] ‘and I seek refuge with You from being beaten by the Shaytaan at the time of death’ means, lest he should wrestle with me and play with me, and damage my religious commitment or mental state (at the time of death) by means of his insinuating whispers which cause people to slip or lose their minds. The Shaytaan could take control of a person when he is about to depart this world, and misguide him or stop him from repenting…”

Ibn Taymiyah (Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 42/276) said: “The fact that jinn can enter human bodies is proven by the consensus of Ahl al-Sunnah wa’l-Jamaa’ah. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): ‘Those who eat Ribaa will not stand (on the Day of Resurrection) except like the standing of a person beaten by Shaytaan (Satan) leading him to insanity. That is because they say: ‘Trading is only like Ribaa’…’ [al-Baqarah 2:275]. And in as-Saheeh it is narrated that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘The Shaytaan flows through the son of Adam as the blood flows through his veins.’”

‘Abd-Allaah ibn al-Imaam Ahmad ibn Hanbal said; “I said to my father, ‘There are some people who say that the jinn do not enter the body of the epileptic.’ He said: ‘O my son, they are lying; the jinn could speak through this person.’” Commenting on this, Ibn Qudaamah said: “What he said is well known, because a person may suffer an epileptic seizure and speak in a language that no one understands, and his body may be beaten with blows that would fell a camel, but the epileptic does not feel them at all, and he is also unaware of the words he is saying. The epileptic and others may be dragged about, or the carpet on which he is sitting may be pulled, and utensils may be moved about from place to place, and other things may happen. Anyone who witnesses such a thing will know for sure that the one who is speaking through the person and moving these things is not human.” And he said, may Allaah have mercy on him: “There is no one among the imaams of the Muslims who denies that jinn may enter the body of the epileptic and others. Anyone who denies that and claims that Islam denies it is lying about Islam. There is nothing in the proofs of sharee’ah to show that it does not happen.”

So the fact that jinn may enter human bodies is proven in the Qur’aan and Sunnah, and by the consensus of Ahl al-Sunnah wa’l-Jamaa’ah, some of whose comments we have quoted above.

As regards the aayah (interpretation of the meaning): “but they could not thus harm anyone except by Allaah’s Leave” [al-Baqarah 2:102], this is undoubtedly a clear indication that the jinn cannot harm anyone through witchcraft or epilepsy or through any other kind of disturbance or misguidance, except with the permission of Allaah. As al-Hasan al-Basri said: “Whomever Allaah wills, He gives them power over him, and whomever He does not will, He does not give them power over him, and they cannot do anything to anyone except with the permission of Allaah.” The Shaytaan (who is the disbelieving jinn) may gain power over the believers by making them sin and by making them neglect the remembrance and Tawheed of Allaah and sincerity in worshipping Him. But he has no power over the righteous slaves of Allaah, as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Verily, My slaves (i.e. the true believers of Islamic Monotheism) — you have no authority over them. And All-Sufficient is your Lord as a Guardian” [al-Israa’ 17:65]

During the Jaahiliyyah the Arabs were well aware of this and mentioned it in their poetry. For example, the poet al-A’shaa likened his she-camel’s energy to that of one who was touched by the jinn, and said that it was the jinn who was giving her her energy.

As regards the causes of epilepsy, Ibn Taymiyah explained (in Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 19/39) the causes. He said: “When the jinn touch a person with epilepsy, it may be because of desire or love, just as happens between one human and another… or it may – as is usually the case – be because of hatred and punishment, such as when a person has harmed them or they think that he has harmed them deliberately, either by urinating on them or pouring hot water on them or killing them, even if the person did that unknowingly. There are ignorant and wrongdoing ones among the jinn who may punish a person more than he deserves, or they may be playing with him and mistreating him, like foolish people among mankind.”

And I say: the way to save oneself from this is to remember Allaah and speak His Name at the beginning of all things, as it was reported that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) used to mention Allaah in many cases, such as when eating, drinking, mounting his riding-beast, taking off his clothes for any reason, having intercourse and so on…

As regards treatment (of one whose body has been entered by the jinn), Ibn Taymiyah said (Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 19/42): “When the jinn attack a person, they should be told of the rulings of Allaah and His Messenger, proof should be established against them, and they should be commanded to do what is good and told not to do what is evil, just as should be done in the case of people, as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): ‘And We never punish until We have sent a Messenger (to give warning)’ [al-Israa’ 17:15].” Then he said: “If the jinn does not leave after being addressed in this manner, then it is permissible to rebuke him, tell him off, threaten him and curse him, as the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did with the Shaytaan when he came with a falling star to throw it in his face, and the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “I seek refuge with Allaah from you and I curse you with the curse of Allaah” – three times. (Narrated by al-Bukhaari).We may also seek help against the jinn by remembering Allaah (dhikr) and reciting Qur’aan, especially Aayat al-Kursi. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever recites it will remain under the protection of Allaah and no shaytaan (devil) will be able to approach him until the morning.” (Narrated by al-Bukhaari). And al-Mi’wadhatayn (the last two soorahs of the Qur’aan) may also be recited.

As for psychiatrists who do not treat the epileptic in the manner described, they cannot do him any good at all.

This issue may be discussed in much more detail, but what we have said here is sufficient for those who want to know a little about this matter, Praise be to Allaah, the Lord of the Worlds.


Masaa’il wa rasaa’il, Muhammad Mahmoud al-Najdi, p. 23
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I have heard several things but it seems more like hearsay than actual fact
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This can be true. When people speak of Jinn they tend to exaggerate a lot and make up stories. Therefore, a clear distinction needs to be made between the false conceptions about them (Jinn) and what it is stated in the Qur'aan and Sunnah about them. To know more about the world of the Jinn you can read the ISLAMIC CREED SERIES Vol-3 by Umar S. al-Ashqar.

Or you can read it here: http://www.missionislam.com/knowledge/books/JinnDevils.pdf
 
x_laila_x said:
With humans I think it is complex because the 'hurt' one causes is most often a calculated act with a purpose of gaining something which gives reason to doing it in the first place. So what reason would Jinn have to possess a human? What do Jinn gain?
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I don't agree.

People hurt random strangers for no real reason all the time. Ever seen somebody curse/hit another just cos they were in the wrong place?

Same thing with jinns (fiery by nature in the first place).
 
Alpha Dude said:
I don't agree.

People hurt random strangers for no real reason all the time. Ever seen somebody curse/hit another just cos they were in the wrong place?

Same thing with jinns (fiery by nature in the first place).
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I understand what you are saying. But that is to do with the victim being in the wrong place at the wrong time. They were chosen at random. But the person doing the wrong to the victim, that is not a case of chance they have thought through what they were going to do. Have you ever seen someone be mugged? The person doing the mugging had the premeditated thought about commiting the crime, the victim was chosen at random.
 
this whole world is just so mysterious! so maddening...there is just so much more than what the eyes can see... trees and stones would prostrate to Prophets, food would speak to them and people think i'm lunatic...? Well, like I care! Hnh! Stupid people!
And of course this isn't related to the OP. :/

Okay, so I don't know whether jinns can enter one's body or not. In my country, this was mainly used as an excuse by criminals that "we should not be held responsible for we were not in our real control and blah blah".

A research was done on it, and those people who claimed that jinns can enter body were investigated. They were asked whether they really have seen someone with their own eyes, under the control of jinns and they all denied. they kept on passing it to others that I heard him from him and when him was asked, he said, I heard it from him2 and so like this, the flop research continued and then died and rotted.
 
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cat eyes said:
sometimes the reason is because they have falling in love with the human so they enter there bodies. there is female and male jinn.
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Aaaaahahahaaa! lol, lol, your not serious? Are you? Thanx for always making me laugh meow!
 
sister cat eyes is right and if you wana know about Jinn read what I posted above please...
 
@ Meow:
I'm bored! The man didn't even fly in air or twisted or bone crunching sound or anything! And its like a 10 + mins video, so can't wait that long. :( The sound effects were not even scary! You wana watch real exorcism, then watch

"Exorcism of Emily Rose"!

Scared the ... out of me! ...and in school, at movie night, no one would even go to washroom with you! :D

I never said I don't believe in Jinns! I believe in them but jinns falling in love with someone,

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Aaaaaaaaaahahhaaahahhaaaahaahaaahaaa. Sorry, having.a.laughing.hysteria. AAAAhAHAHAHA! lol LOL!
 
and i'm not staying here anymore alone!
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Its not like i'm scared or something...I...I..umm..I got to...look there is someone on the door, gotta go! :scared:
 
^ Okay so jinns can't possess someone's body right? Sister meow and Amat Allah were joking, right? :D
 

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