[Sami Zaatari]

Kuwait says US cannot use bases for any Iran strike

KUWAIT CITY, June 11 (AFP) Jun 11, 2007
Kuwait, a staunch US ally, said on Monday it would not allow the United States to use its territory as a launch-pad for any attack on Iran over its nuclear programme.
"The United States did not ask (to use Kuwaiti military facilities for any attack) and even if it did, we will not allow anybody to use our territory," defence and interior minister Sheikh Jaber al-Mubarak al-Sabah told reporters.

Kuwait served as the launch-pad for the US invasion of Iraq in 2003 and remains the main staging point for US-led troops in the country. Around 15,000 US troops are stationed at several bases in the emirate.

On Sunday, visiting Iranian parliament speaker Gholam Ali Hadad Adel said Tehran would hit US military bases in Gulf states if they were used in an attack on his country.

"If this actually happens, we will be forced to defend ourselves... We will target those bases or points," he said.

Washington has always said it wants to resolve the nuclear crisis through diplomacy, but has never ruled out using military action to bring Tehran to heel.

Iran consistently denies it is trying to build nuclear weapons and says it merely wants to generate energy.


(http://www.spacewar.com/2006/070611113049.j2vkusak.html) (can also be found on reuters and gulf agencies)

good news, at least these gulf states arent being puppets anymore, the UAE has also said it will not allow the US to use bases in the UAE against iran. bahrain will also do likewise. now other than this this news reveals something else, that these small gulf arab countries now feel they can say no to USA! a few years ago it would be unthinkable for their politicians to even think of it, but the USA has lost its stature and position hence these gulf arabs now feel strong enough to even say no.

the only way the US and Israel will be able to launch a war against iran will be by air, and precision missile strikes, and that isnt really gonna hurt the iranian goverment at all since they have most likely already planned for such an event. many keep talking about all out war with iran, but this wont happen, because the logistics for such a war is too much and too hard to even control and make! because nearyby countries arent going to let the US use them as bases, hence how and where will they put the tanks, the humvees and etc etc. if you cant stop the usa by words, and diplomacy, then simply cut their hands off, by that i mean dont let them use neighboring countries for bases and the US is literally tied up and cant launch a major offensive attack unless its air and precision guided missiles which i said wont do much harm. countries are wising up now.

 

[Zman]

/Peace To All

Alhamdulillah. Good for them...

 

[Keltoi]

Kuwait says US cannot use bases for any Iran strike

KUWAIT CITY, June 11 (AFP) Jun 11, 2007
Kuwait, a staunch US ally, said on Monday it would not allow the United States to use its territory as a launch-pad for any attack on Iran over its nuclear programme.
"The United States did not ask (to use Kuwaiti military facilities for any attack) and even if it did, we will not allow anybody to use our territory," defence and interior minister Sheikh Jaber al-Mubarak al-Sabah told reporters.

Kuwait served as the launch-pad for the US invasion of Iraq in 2003 and remains the main staging point for US-led troops in the country. Around 15,000 US troops are stationed at several bases in the emirate.

On Sunday, visiting Iranian parliament speaker Gholam Ali Hadad Adel said Tehran would hit US military bases in Gulf states if they were used in an attack on his country.

"If this actually happens, we will be forced to defend ourselves... We will target those bases or points," he said.

Washington has always said it wants to resolve the nuclear crisis through diplomacy, but has never ruled out using military action to bring Tehran to heel.

Iran consistently denies it is trying to build nuclear weapons and says it merely wants to generate energy.


(http://www.spacewar.com/2006/070611113049.j2vkusak.html) (can also be found on reuters and gulf agencies)

good news, at least these gulf states arent being puppets anymore, the UAE has also said it will not allow the US to use bases in the UAE against iran. bahrain will also do likewise. now other than this this news reveals something else, that these small gulf arab countries now feel they can say no to USA! a few years ago it would be unthinkable for their politicians to even think of it, but the USA has lost its stature and position hence these gulf arabs now feel strong enough to even say no.

the only way the US and Israel will be able to launch a war against iran will be by air, and precision missile strikes, and that isnt really gonna hurt the iranian goverment at all since they have most likely already planned for such an event. many keep talking about all out war with iran, but this wont happen, because the logistics for such a war is too much and too hard to even control and make! because nearyby countries arent going to let the US use them as bases, hence how and where will they put the tanks, the humvees and etc etc. if you cant stop the usa by words, and diplomacy, then simply cut their hands off, by that i mean dont let them use neighboring countries for bases and the US is literally tied up and cant launch a major offensive attack unless its air and precision guided missiles which i said wont do much harm. countries are wising up now.

You don't think an air war can do serious harm? You might want to think hard about that one. As for Kuwait, it is useful for shuttling supplies and manpower into Iraq in the context of an occupation, but any theoretical war against Iran won't be an occupation. More than likely it will be aircraft carriers in the Persian Gulf that will strike at Iran, in the unlikely event military action takes place. A strategic air campaign would be devastating for the Iranians, although probably not completely effective at wiping out all the nuclear sites.

 

[Bittersteel]

yeah good.they get my respect.you see the Iraq war did the trick.KSA kicked out the US forces when they invaded Iraq and now the Persian Gulf Arabs will do so if another war happens.good.
hang on you sure the link is reliable?although Oman has already stated they have no interest in having a fight with Iran.
well this is news for me definitely.all I have been hearing is about sanctions and plans for bombings(even with nukes).maybe some hope these air campaigns will weaken the government a rebellion might occur to bring a change.

 

[vpb]

good news, at least these gulf states arent being puppets anymore, the UAE has also said it will not allow the US to use bases in the UAE against iran. bahrain will also do likewise. now other than this this news reveals something else, that these small gulf arab countries now feel they can say no to USA! a few years ago it would be unthinkable for their politicians to even think of it, but the USA has lost its stature and position hence these gulf arabs now feel strong enough to even say no.

just bc they say on media "we will not allow them" does that mean it is true? it is possible that they say this for the sake of the medias, but inside the matter is totally different. and here we are dealing with things which haven't happened, but they are just making assumptions.

 

[Sinbad]

You don't think an air war can do serious harm? You might want to think hard about that one. As for Kuwait, it is useful for shuttling supplies and manpower into Iraq in the context of an occupation, but any theoretical war against Iran won't be an occupation. More than likely it will be aircraft carriers in the Persian Gulf that will strike at Iran, in the unlikely event military action takes place. A strategic air campaign would be devastating for the Iranians, although probably not completely effective at wiping out all the nuclear sites.

Iran is no super power. But the ones commanding hezbullah when Israel invaded where Iranian commanders. They also shoot down an israeli destroyer.

Iran has rockets that hits out sattelites.

Iran has no atom bombs yet, but they got other stuff.
Kuwait is a small nation wiht 500.000 people, the other stuff can be harmfull to them.

 

[vpb]

Kuwait is a small nation wiht 500.000 people, the other stuff can be harmfull to them.

it is a small nation, but they a lot of money. even to use tham as napkins.

 

[islamirama]

The coward US rained bombs day and night on afghanistan being afraid of a few tribal people with worn out guns of USSR era. when even there weren't animals being seen moving, then they sent in the troops. They did the same with iraq and now they still can't manage to get a handle on it.

A war in Iran is a suicide for US. Iran promised to attack all US bases in the Gulf regardless of those arab states helping US or not. It also is ready to attack Israel as zionists are itching to get this war started. In addition to that, chavez also showed support and stated an attack on Iran will compel him to defend his ally. Since US can't handle iraq in its weakend state, i doubt they have much of a chance against Iran who is bigger, stronger and preparing for the day since the day Iraq was invaded.

 

[Keltoi]

Iran is no super power. But the ones commanding hezbullah when Israel invaded where Iranian commanders. They also shoot down an israeli destroyer.

Iran has rockets that hits out sattelites.

Iran has no atom bombs yet, but they got other stuff.
Kuwait is a small nation wiht 500.000 people, the other stuff can be harmfull to them.

Iran can threaten Kuwait with rockets and the like, just as Saddam shot rockets at Israel during the first Gulf War, but their effectiveness is a big question mark. I'm also rather dubious about the "rockets that hits sattelites" claim.

 

[Keltoi]

The coward US rained bombs day and night on afghanistan being afraid of a few tribal people with worn out guns of USSR era. when even there weren't animals being seen moving, then they sent into the troops. They did the same with iraq and now they still can't manage to get a handle on it.

A war in Iran is a suicide for US. Iran promised to attack all US bases in the Gulf regardless of those arab states helping US or not. It also is ready to attack Israel as zionists are itching to get this war started. In addition to that, chavez also showed support and stated an attack on Iran will compel him to defend his ally. Since US can't handle iraq in its weakend state, i doubt they have much of a chance against Iran who is bigger, stronger and preparing for the day since the day Iraq was invaded.

:rollseyes It's called war. You kill your enemies. Also, there were U.S. troops on the ground before the war even started, mostly special forces working with the Northern Alliance. The campaign was mostly an air war because the Taliban were retreating into the mountains. Those that stayed to defend the cities were wiped up rather quickly. As General Patton famously said, "It's not a soldier's job to die for his country, it's to make the other b****** die for his".

As for Iraq, the Iraqi military evaporated the minute U.S. troops crossed the border, at least for the most part. I'm sure there were pockets of bravery...but there is a fine line between bravery and foolishness. The problem started when 150,000 U.S. troops were expected to police and stabilize a country the size of Texas. That was a strategic blunder, and we're paying for it now.

 

[Bittersteel]

They also shoot down an israeli destroyer.

with its systems turned off or something.that's what the Israelis said atleast.

As General Patton famously said, "It's not a soldier's job to die for his country, it's to make the other b****** die for his".

completely true.I admired Patton always and I think Iranians should do that actually instead of dying,because that never works.put up some air defence,use everything you have got ,bring down as many planes as you can ,take fewer casualties.Iranians are patriotic ,even the ones who hate the Islamic administration.

 

[Keltoi]

with its systems turned off or something.that's what the Israelis said atleast.

completely true.I admired Patton always and I think Iranians should do that actually instead of dying,coz that never works.

Of course the not dying part is hard to do in war of any kind.

 

[Zman]

More than likely it will be aircraft carriers in the Persian Gulf that will strike at Iran, in the unlikely event military action takes place. A strategic air campaign would be devastating for the Iranians, although probably not completely effective at wiping out all the nuclear sites.

If we ever left the carriers in the Persian Gulf, they would be sitting ducks for an Iranian retaliation.

The Iranians said that any attack, will be met with a fierce retaliatory strike (whether it came from within or without the Persian Gulf).

Don't forget we have bases ringing them, especially in Afghanistan and Iraq. Their strike woon't be crippling for us, but, it sure as hell will hurt a lot.

Don't underestimate Iran. They aren't Iraq...

I'm also rather dubious about the "rockets that hits sattelites" claim.

They have the capability to build sattelites, they Just haven't developed a rocket that can take them into space.

I think China is the only nation that succeeded in taking out a satellite with a ground-based missile.

We can do it, but only from an F-15 at high altitude...

:rollseyes It's called war. You kill your enemies. Also, there were U.S. troops on the ground before the war even started, mostly special forces working with the Northern Alliance. The campaign was mostly an air war because the Taliban were retreating into the mountains.

We could have had more boots on the ground. But, we opted to leave that role for the Northern Alliance...

 

[Sinbad]

Iran can threaten Kuwait with rockets and the like, just as Saddam shot rockets at Israel during the first Gulf War, but their effectiveness is a big question mark. I'm also rather dubious about the "rockets that hits sattelites" claim.

Iran is not iraq, Iraq was a defencless nation burried in debt and with an outdated army.

Dont think Iran can hurt the mighty US?

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/826019.html

remember that? When Iranian soldiers painted an IRanian symbol on a US destroyer in the gulf?

Iran is even getting a spy sattelite.
http://www.isracast.com/transcripts/230905b_trans.htm

Iran has the latest defence system from russia, Thor M1
http://www.defense-update.com/products/t/tor.htm

dont be arrogant whatever you do. Iran will not be like afghanistan or Iraq.

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

I'd say if the US or whatever goes on with this, it'll be a huge mistake on their part.

 

[Trumble]

In addition to that, chavez also showed support and stated an attack on Iran will compel him to defend his ally.

With what? The Pentagon is suitably terrified, I'm sure. :rollseyes

 

[Sami Zaatari]

iran is certainly not like iraq and afghanistan, because not only is iran capable of defending itself, one thing many ppl dont realize is that the iranian regime are actually not hated to the limit where the majority of the people will lay down and side with US as happened in iraq in the beggining of the war. the notion that the majority of iranians are waiting for freedom from the US and hating their regime is PROPAGANDA garbage which is spewed by largely anti-islamic iranian pagans and christians living in california! as they say go figure!

i am half iranian and i fully support the regime, however so my iranian side of the familly arent too fond of the regime, infact they dont like them, however so having said that they dont like the US neither and they sure as heck dont want the US bombing their country. hence iran isnt like iraq and afghan where the ppl were largely oppressed and below poverty wanting a way out, that isnt the case in iran. so therefore not only will the iranian army defend its country, but the people will as well, dont forget many iranians are extemly proud of their heritage and history and they will NEVER allow a western nation to come occupy and attack them.

but westerners who dont know jack about iran, and who never visited iran, or who dont even know any iranians in iran want to talk like they know all, but its good, because ignorance and under-estimation is always the cause that causes one side to lose the war and the other to win, and right now the US is under-estimating iran and being ignorant about what the population really feels and wants.

and also any chances of the iranian people actually supporting the US to attack and occupy their country was completly erased with the fiasco of iraq, they now see what will happen if they actually rely on the US to come to their stable country. The american army and goverment shud simply stay in their own borders and stop acting like your the saviour of the world and that everyone wants you, cause they dont, stick to usa, dont come to iran and ruin it to bring your bankrupt way of life, iranians already have their own culture, and own way of life, they dont need your western bankruptcy way of life, keep it in america plz and start respecting others and yourself. and im saying this AS an iranian muslim, keep your silly guns in your own country cause we dont want none of your arrogance, stupidity, nor your plans for the country, because we all know its all for your own interests which are simply the interests of that theiving state called israel. thank you. go fix your own illegal alien mexicon problems plz, stay out of our country.

 

[MTAFFI]

I dont see Iran getting attacked anytime soon, the US is obviously a little preoccupied right now. As far as Kuwait saying they wont allow the US to use their bases, we will see if the time actually comes. As far as Iran and their military being superior or comparable to the US military....lol... It is a fact that the US military is without a doubt far superior, the little story about the Iranian sketch, do tell, how was that sketch done, underwater? lol yeah an Iranian submarine went below a US vessel and out smarted the radar all for the chance to "sketch" on one of our ships....lol.. that is just stupid, the whole satelitte thing, well since the iranians have been talking about it since what 1998, I am not too worried about it. Also who said the US cant take out satelittes with missles? Perhaps you would like to take a look at the missle systems that have been made public. They are the most advanced in the world, even to "chinas"
Also dont forget about the 22 stealth bombers that are just waiting for a chance to drop a 40,000 lb payload on Iran. So talk it up my middle eastern loving friends, you always do but when it comes time for war because of all these threats and this big talk, you will be singing yet another oppressive story about how the big bad american military bombed your country to rubble and left nothing but a big brown stain on the map.

(By the way, I know that whole paragraph sounds like I am hoping for war but I am not, I just get sick of hearing the same old rhetoric about how Iran is some sort of middle eastern superpower just because Ahmadinjehad runs his mouth to much)

 

[Sinbad]

Why do you feel the need to flex your american muscles towards Iran? Israel is one o the strongest nations in the world, they lost towards hizbullah. Americans say that hizbullah didnt win cause Israel was not destroyed, and more Lebanese infrastructure was destroyed than Israeli.

But Israel and the rest of the world see 40.000 israelis invading lebanon with 3000 hizbullahs with Iranian commanders preventing them from reaching beirut, and thats the rules.

Yes America is the worlds only super power et c, but they will lose many soldiers and ships if attacking Iran, even if Iran is a moderate nations with sanctions.

 

[Noor]

This step may seem to be Kuwait's way of re-constructing their back-bone, however, it does not change the fact that Kuwait like other filthy rich Arab nations are a disgust to their Palestinian and Somali Muslim bethren who they,Kuwait and the infamous KSA still continue to ignore, while they, living in refugee camp are fighting to stay alive.