Labbayk ya Allah! (MUST WATCH!) Syria.

[- Qatada -]

http://youtu.be/DFgw0UNSlq4

 

[Endymion]

Why was the old lady beating that Mujahid :hmm:

 

[Jedi_Mindset]

Why was the old lady beating that Mujahid :hmm:

Her son got killed now its not clear by who, by FSA or Assad soldiers.

 

[Endymion]

So she was blaming the Mujahid :hmm:

 

[Jedi_Mindset]

So she was blaming the Mujahid :hmm:

Dont know, i cant understand arabic. But as you can see in the vid, the FSA captured some soldiers of Assad, perhaps she was blaming them. It could also be possible yes that the FSA has accidently killed her son. I'm refraining from supporting both sides because i dont want to fall in fitnah. I only ask Allah to make it easier for the syrians and may they live in peace soon Insha'Allah

 

[Endymion]

Thank you.Hope Qatada will explain any better :hmm:

 

[Jedi_Mindset]

Thank you.Hope Qatada will explain any better :hmm:

Insha'Allah he will,

look we cant judge from a vid or TV screen of what the situation is in syria due to massive propaganda. Fitnah&fasaad is very huge these days, its best to refrain from taking sides especially when you dont live in the country itself. And since the Kufar are supporting both sides in the syrian conflict i will better to refrain from it.

 

[Endymion]

I am not that aware of the matter to favor anyone just know that Syrian Army killing their own people even innocent kids.Thats just the innocent Muslim's blood that saddens me.They are my Muslim brothers after all.

 

[Jedi_Mindset]

I am not that aware of the matter to favor anyone just know that Syrian Army killing their own people even innocent kids.Thats just the innocent Muslim's blood that saddens me.They are my Muslim brothers after all.

Bismillah irrahman irrahim, may Allah make it easy for us to understand. Ameen

Thats the problem, the media presents only a one faced story and thats Assad being killing protestors. Its not a coicidence that before every UN meeting a massacre takes place, now a question is by who? I blame Mi6 and Mossad. Both syria and hezbollah are controlled opposition, which means that they are controlled by the same ones who controll israel.

Both sides have committed autrocities. There are alot of Mi6 agents and CIA agents arming the syrian rebels in turkey and jordan. They can easily tell that a village is alewite and this is where the mistakes come from. When mi6 agents tell the rebels that a city is full of alewites (and its confirmed that scholars allowed the killings of alewite women and children when they support the Assad regime) while the city is completely sunni. Al-assad and his stooges are bombing every place to the stone ages, but i'm really not waiting for another western intervention, thats why some rebels and the puppet SNC should stop whining about a ''no fly zone'' because thats what really leads to another invasion by the west and NATO. look how it ended in libya and Iraq.....

Also alot of turks, saudis, iraqis and kurds have joined the free syrian army. They dont know which town is bad and which isnt, its hands funding both sides and this is why i refrain from supporting.


There are liberals, extremists(extreme salafis), and the ones who follow the sunnah joining the FSA. And this will be a big fat mistake, just watch and see.

About Assad, well he let palestinians living in his country, and some PLA/Hamas members. Al-assad played btw in the US hands during operation desert shield, protecting the american oil from iraq. Many palestinians supported saddam hussein and they got expelled from kuwait, most of them went to syria. Bashar came into power, settling ties with hezbollah and iran, and he gave the right to hamas to live in syria if they wanted. Syria made a alliance with hezbollah and in 2006 a war between israel and hezbollah started which resulted in the defeat of israel. Israel pulled back. Syria was repsonsible along with iran for arming hezbollah. And this went into something bad, now why is israel supporting this revolution? Well, israel wants Assad seeing toppled, hezbollah seeing devastated. So israel can launch another destructive war on lebanon.
Assad needs to step down,i really dont care who is gonna rule syria after Assad because i know it will be a puppet anyway.

Both Assad and the oppostion(SNC) are playing in the hands of israel, so israel can finally launch its a new war soon on lebanon. Israel promised that this war will be the most destructive and most violent war they will ever launch, and they wont really bother if a town is full with women and children, from netanyahu's view he even can conquer a pile of ashes.

Their plan is to balkanize syria just like libya now.

But as i said, we need to look at both sides of the coin, and you can clearly see holes.

 

[جوري]

Why was the old lady beating that Mujahid :hmm:

ugarit news belongs to the Syrian admin to create - edit -color as they please-they're backed by Iran from one side, Hizbullah from another and Russian vetos to ensure total extermination of Sunnis. Nothing new here...in sha Allah swt is preparing bilaad ashaam for victory ...'tis a spot like no other.

 

[Endymion]

Ahh... something thats going on in almost all Muslim countries :hmm:

 

[Jedi_Mindset]

Both sides have committed autrocities

 

[- Qatada -]

Thank you.Hope Qatada will explain any better :hmm:

:salamext:

I think they captured one of the Shabiha (meaning 'ghosts'), do a search on them. They would torture Sunnis in the most severest of ways (cutting their body parts off with knives, or raping in the worst of ways etc.) for over 50years in the secret dungeons of Syria.

So the Sunnis (people on Sunnah) are happy to get revenge on them now.

 

[جوري]

Alawites aren't Muslims and should be treated like any other kaffirs during wartime -- they're a most vile bunch walahi.

 

[Jedi_Mindset]

Alawites aren't Muslims and should be treated like any other kaffirs during wartime -- they're a most vile bunch walahi.

Depends if they fight you or not, our prophet muhammed(Saw) didnt slay every pagan he saw also eh? Thats how the Americans fight, slaying every muslim they see. But we are muslims, Allah has set for us alot of rules during war time, its permisslbe to kill someone who aids the enemy armies or help them. But you cant simply kill someone because he is alewite. That is totally against the teachings of propher muhammed(Saw) and the book of Allah.

Kafirs got actually treated good when they got captured by the muslim armies. Because with kindness you can change someones heart, thanks to kindness alot of people became muslims. So this needs to be applied the same towards the captives of the syrian army.

The FSA needs to stop killing every government supporter they see, and Assad's army should stop shelling everything and killing anti government protesters. Doesnt matter anyway, sooner or later the dogs of war are inside syria and then the real battle will start.

Here a report from alex thomson, a british journalist who was in syria, dont misunderstand him he is anti-Assad;

[h=3]‘Both sides involved in very dirty tactics’[/h]

RT did an extensive interview with Thomson on the details of his ordeal, and the situation in the country in general.
RT: What you are basically saying is that rebel forces set you up to be shot at by the Syrian army?
Alex Thomson: I have no doubt in my mind what happened, nor independently, does the very experienced cameraman I was with, and, perhaps more importantly than that, neither does the driver or the translator we were working with have any doubt at all that we were deliberately led out of that town, which the rebels knew was dangerous. We were led there in a car with four men. Two or three of them were armed. They told us to go down a route which looked dangerous to us, but we trusted them, we said we would go down the route and turn. We turned and found it was blocked. That was a roadblock which they had to have known was there. There was nobody around and at that point we were forced to turn the vehicle around in a free-fire zone and were duly fired upon. We were definitely exposed to a dangerous situation. And I have absolutely no doubt they did it deliberately. When we reappeared, still alive, the car full of men saw us, turned round and drove off at speed.
RT: So the car you were in, the Syrian army had no way to tell that you were foreign journalists?
AT: We did have a small sign in the windscreen saying press. We did not mark the car up with large letters saying TV or anything like that. There were very few journalists in this area. We were the only ones, so I think we were moving under conditions of reasonable safety.
RT: Why did you trust the rebel forces in the first place?
AT: We had no reason not to trust the rebel forces any more than we had any reason not to trust the Syrian army. By and large, when we spoke to Syrian people on both sides of the war, they were pretty honest and pretty straightforward in their assessments of the situation. That was the situation in places like Homs, on both sides, in Houla, on both sides. It was certainly the case on one side in al-Qubair. But when we got to the rebel side of al-Qubair, there was something different and for the first time, we encountered a degree of hostility and suspicion about us, because they had never seen foreign journalists who had a visa from Damascus, who were in the country legally, not illegally. And that immediately aroused suspicion on their part.
RT: So most foreign journalists are there illegally?
AT: That’s a fact. Most foreign, Western journalists who cover the war from the rebel side are smuggled in from Lebanon and so forth illegally to the country. It is very unusual, almost unheard of, to do the kind of things that we were doing, which is to go from Damascus, cross the lines with the Red Cross and Red Crescent, and talk to both sides.
RT: So can it be that your willingness to talk to both sides was the reason why the rebels wanted to set you up?
AT: That’s certainly possibly the case. There was another journalist in al-Qubair, an American freelance photographer, who had been there for some weeks; I don’t imagine that he would have been treated in that kind of way because they would have had a great deal more trust. To be fair to the rebels, you’re not looking at a credible and well-organized army with a very well-organized command and control structure. It was almost like there were groups of different men in the town who controlled different areas, different streets. There was a lot of rivalry. And I think, as much as anything else, we got involved in their turf war, with different groups of soldiers fighting with each other, jostling with each other around our car, not sure what to do with us, not sure how to treat us, not sure quite what we were doing there. We caused a lot of confusion to that extent and they weren’t used to that.
RT: Are there any grounds to believe that the Shabbiha were impersonating the rebels that misled you?
AT: No, I didn’t make a mistake on that. You can argue we made a mistake listening to what these guys were telling us. You can argue we made a mistake leaving site of the UN, although later these guys forced their car between us and the UN, and the UN drove off and left us as they said they would do, I have no problem with that. There is no way that these were some extremist Shabbiha. We were inside the town, in the streets, in areas completely controlled by the Free Syrian Army. They were all FSA people there. The idea that some bizarre could have wandered in to this situation unnoticed is ludicrous.
RT: Couldn’t rebels just kill you themselves and make it look as it was Assad’s forces?
AT: Yeah, of course they could. But in order to do that, the guys who actually did this would have had to physically taken us, probably in another vehicle, in order to do that, because they would have probably not been able to do that with other guys watching. Don’t forget, most of the people who were in that town were very welcoming to us, very helpful, giving interviews. A lot of them were very cool and very relaxed with us. It was just this one group who suddenly decided to do what they did.
RT: So the rebels are not united? Are there different groups doing different things, basically?
AT: Not exactly. What I mean is, you have the regular Free Syrian Army who are organized as you would expect a national army to be organized. They have a coherent command and control structure. They know who is in charge of their unit. That unit knows who is in charge of the area. The area knows who is in charge of the region, and they know who the boss man is. It works. They’re pushed, they’re under stress, they’re losing men, as this is a civil war. It is not the same when you cross to the other side. Clearly you are dealing with a much less coherent force. The only arms I saw them have were sniper rifles, AK-47s, and the very occasional rocket-propelled grenades, so they are not heavily armed. They are deeply motivated. They are prepared to die for their cause, and they are quite clearly giving the Syrian army a run for their money, but in no sense are they organized like a conventional army. ​

[h=3]'Dead journalists are bad for Damascus'[/h]

RT: Can you elaborate on your statement that dead journalists are bad for Damascus?
AT: My point is, dead journalists are bad for Damascus. When Marie Colvin, the British journalist got killed because she was in a building which was shelled by the Syrian army in Homs, that was an appalling propaganda blow for the Damascus regime. You don’t have to be very clever to work out that the deaths of any journalist at the hands of the Syrian army are going to be an appalling blow, again, for President Assad. That’s going to reflect all the way to Moscow and all the way to Beijing. Clearly that is going to be a bad thing in terms of propaganda. So the motivation for the rebels to pull a stunt like that seems to be very obvious. I’m not angry about it, I’m not upset about it, this is a war and these things will be done. Both sides are involved in very dirty tactics in this war. This is a nasty and dirty war on both sides.
RT: How much violence have you actually seen personally?
AT: I’ve seen dead bodies in Houla which the UN didn’t know about. I’ve seen mass graves of men involved in a fairly extensive firefight close up in the south of Houla. I’ve watched the Syrian army at various distances shelling Homs every single day, shelling Houla almost every single day.
RT: So are Assad’s troops mostly responsible for this violence?
AT: No, it’s a war. Both sides are responsible. I think the Western media is rather naïve because they constantly blame the Syrian army for killing civilians. That’s true because the Syrian army are to blame for shelling civilians, but it’s equally true that the Free Syrian Army is very largely fighting its war in built-up, populated, civilian areas. They're not exactly using civilians as human shields but if you fight in those areas, civilians are going to be killed, and that is a question which is not put to the leaders of the Free Syrian Army with the frequency that it should be, in my opinion. ​

http://www.rt.com/news/syria-journalist-rebel-trap-436/

 

[جوري]

Depends if they fight you or not, our prophet muhammed(Saw) didnt slay every pagan he saw also eh?

should be treated like any other kaffirs during wartime

guess what- we're at war! and they're slaying us!

 

[- Qatada -]

:salamext: to bro Jedi, i have loads of respect for u bro. Forgive me if i offended you through this thread. Your one of the koolest bros i know.

 

[dysphoricrocker]

Oh dear. Now i don't know what to think of Syria after reading through this thread.

 

[Jedi_Mindset]

Problem is that people think that this civil war is a secterian war, which is based on nonsense, nothing but a propagation from the zionist media. There are still alot of sunnis in the syrian army and airforce, while also alewites join the free syrian army. Its a regional war controlled from inside and broad by NATO/israel/US/UK on one side and the sino-russian alliance on the other side. They really dont care about who is alewite and who is not, we're muslims in their eyes and in the eyes of the superpowers we muslims can rot.

The future of syria will be a balkanized one, compare this to the yugoslavian civil war and genocides. you will find the same pattern. This is not cops&robbers, this is something much bigger.

Libya is about to be divided into 3 regions, with a secular government at the head.

Read this PDF: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/pdf/The%20Zionist%20Plan%20for%20the%20Middle%20East.pdf

 

[جوري]

Oh dear. Now i don't know what to think of Syria after reading through this thread.

It would be really unfortunate if the shiite agenda were that successful that folks become confused between right and wrong.. At any rate to the people of Syria there's Allah swt.
If this regime doesn't dissolve there will be total extermination of Sunnis in Syria and if that doesn't please Israel and the west then nothing well.
Don't give into the hype that Syria is some anti-Israeli truly Islamic place. There are recordings of Bashar saying he'll sell his secrets to Israel if further threatened. You google stuff and you'll get the common opinion that the press wishes for you to have and has so ensnared people. You want to know the truth then speak with Syrians or go there and I wouldn't advise the latter.
It is a sad thing with the Syrians when they're threatened on the outside and the inside.. I find that truly a sad thing ..