Let us find on what Islam and Christianity agree.

[love_quran]

Let's post statements agreeable to both Christians and Muslims.

If any Muslim or Christian disagrees with a statement, we strike it from the list OR we edit it to something agreeable.

Let me try one:

1. Jesus is in both the Quran and the Bible.


I will be keeping track of our progress, and will repost the list of agreements that have made it through the editing process. :sunny:

Let's keep this PEACEFUL!:thankyou:

 

[ummsara1108]

Jesus was born of a virgin (Mary)

 

[Eric H]

Greetings and peace be with you love_quran; thanks for starting this thread

I feel the more important things that we should be seeking agreement on are the moral issues, what does my faith inspire me to do?

Do Islam and Christianity inspire us to seek the same kind of moral good?

I feel we can agree on justice for the poor and oppressed, giving our time and money to help others.
Treating our neighbour as we want to be treated ourselves.


In the spirit of praying to One God

Eric

 

[glo]

I agree with Eric that the need to look after and care for weaker members of society is emphasised strongly in Islam and Christianity.

Another agreement between our faiths is the need to worship God, not just in prayer (although that too), but in everything we do and in the very life we lead.

peace

 

[love_quran]

OK so far we have:

1. Jesus is in both the Quran and the Bible.
2. Jesus was born of a virgin (Mary
3. we should look after and care for weaker members of society
4. need to worship God
5. justice for the poor and oppressed, giving our time and money to help others.
6. Treating our neighbour as we want to be treated ourselves.

 

[glo]

Jesus will return on the last day.

 

[جوري]

Jesus' return isn't to 'judge' mankind, rather establish the rightful laws of God to mankind.

 

[glo]

Jesus' return isn't to 'judge' mankind, rather establish the rightful laws of God to mankind.

Thanks. I have amended my post.

 

[ummsara1108]

I believe both Islam and Christianity agree that Jesus was a very important man and he touched the lives of those ppl from all walks of life, not limited to just Islam and Christianity, most ppl believing or notbelieving have heard at least his name!!! If not also a story!!! ~GOD BLESS THE WORLD~

 

[Zafran]

Salaam

we agree on quite a bit - especially on morals - virtue and vices - there is however difference in theology and view of God and some issues.

I believe the 3 Abhrhamic faiths are very similar - its the Theology that divides us and other issues.

 

[Eric H]

Greetings and peace be with you Zafran;

we agree on quite a bit - especially on morals - virtue and vices - there is however difference in theology and view of God and some issues.

We agree there is one God.

But what is the greatest good meaning of ‘One God’

Is it a theological meaning that we all have to believe the same?

Or, does the greatest meaning of ‘One God’ have a moral meaning, we are all created by the same God and we should care about all of God’s creation. That means caring about each other morally.

In the spirit of praying to One Loving and Merciful God.

Eric

 

[Zafran]

Greetings and peace be with you Zafran;


We agree there is one God.

But what is the greatest good meaning of ‘One God’

Is it a theological meaning that we all have to believe the same?

Or, does the greatest meaning of ‘One God’ have a moral meaning, we are all created by the same God and we should care about all of God’s creation. That means caring about each other morally.

In the spirit of praying to One Loving and Merciful God.

Eric

peace - One God of mankind I agree - this includes God without any partners or co equals -

This is where the differneces come from the idea of the son of God/trinty which is creating partners with God/co equals.

 

[Beardo]

I know there are punishments for fornication, etc. Though I am also aware that there are different versions of the bible, and I also heard it's been edited and modified, so I can't exactly give any backing to that statement... :S

 

[Grace Seeker]

I can't choose between the two options (of the poll). I do feel that Islam and Christianity are much closer to each other than either of them is to say Hinduism, Buddhism, Taoism, or animism. And they are certainly share more of a similar worldview with each other than with secular thoughts. Indeed, both even have similar struggles with nominal believers who are adherents of their respective religions in name only without being true practicioners of the faith.

This latter is especially true with regard to morals. Wtih only a few notable exceptions, I believe that the majority of moral standards of Islam are found in Christianity and vice versa. If the question had only been about morals I would have affirmed it.

However, when it comes to the way the two faiths are formed I think there are significant differences. While both believe in a personal God, the Christian faith seems focused on the nature of their being reconcilation between the individual and God as an act of God's grace toward human kind and one's faith in the availability of that grace. Whereas Islam focuses more on the obligation of obedience. For the one righteousness is a gift of God imputed on the believer, for the other righteousness is something that hangs in the balance and determined by one's own actions. This is a major dichotomy. However, it isn't that there is no common ground here, for both do expect people to do justice and love mercy and both ultimately place the final decision in the hands of a sovereign God. But the differences in approach are still significant enough that I can't say that they substantially agree with regard to faith at the same level I believe they do with regard to morals.

 

[Grace Seeker]

Ok folks lets us try to make as many statements as we can that both Christians and Muslims can agree on.


If any Muslim or Christian disagrees we strike it from the list OR we edit it to something agreeable. :rollseyes

Let me try one:

1. Jesus is in both the Quran and the Bible.


I will be keeping track of our progress and from time to time relisting the agreements that have made it through the process of editing etc. :sunny:

Let's keep this PEACEFUL!:thankyou:

The Quran states: "Christ Jesus the son of Mary was an Messenger of Allah and His word..." (4:171)
The Bbile states: "the one whom God has sent [Jesus Christ] speaks the words of God" (John 3:34) and "his [Jesus Christ's] name is the Word of God." (Revelation 19:13)

 

[Grace Seeker]

I know there are punishments for fornication, etc. Though I am also aware that there are different versions of the bible, and I also heard it's been edited and modified, so I can't exactly give any backing to that statement... :S

1 Corinthians 6:9-10
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Colossians 3:5-6
Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry: for which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience.

1 Corinthians 5:10
But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolator, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

 

[Beardo]

Oh. Thanks.

So what's the kingdom of God? Paradise?

 

[Eric H]

Greetings and peace be with you Zafran;

One God of mankind I agree - this includes God without any partners or co equals -

This is where the differneces come from the idea of the son of God/trinty which is creating partners with God/co equals.

There is more to God than we can ever comprehend, possibly Christianity and Islam do not have a full understanding of God.

I struggle to understand why the same God would give you a sincere faith through Islam, and me a sincere faith through Christianity. In human terms this makes little sense to me.

But !

Today I heard something profound that does makes sense to me.

You will never look into the eyes of anyone who does not matter to God

In the spirit of praying that all people will find salvation, despite all our differences.

Eric

 

[glo]

Greetings and peace be with you Zafran;
There is more to God than we can ever comprehend, possibly Christianity and Islam do not have a full understanding of God.

Today I heard something profound that does makes sense to me.

You will never look into the eyes of anyone who does not matter to God

In the spirit of praying that all people will find salvation, despite all our differences.

Eric

What a beautiful quote, Eric! And very worthy to become your signature.

 

[Eric H]

Greetings and peace be with you glo,

What a beautiful quote, Eric! And very worthy to become your signature.

I am not sure that I can be worthy of the quote. The quote was part of our Street Pastor training this morning, they put some challenging stuff in our path.

There will be times I shall have to keep this at the front of all my thoughts. When we come into contact with gangs, drunks, abusive people, violence and all the troubled people out on our streets at night.

In the spirit of praying for peace in our hearts

Eric