Malaysian churches fire-bombed as 'Allah' row escalates

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Three churches have been attacked in Malaysia's capital Kuala Lumpur, ahead of protests by Muslim groups.

The administrative offices of one church were destroyed by a firebomb attack and one of the other two churches attacked was slightly damaged.

Some Muslim groups are angry at a court decision allowing non-Muslims to use the word Allah to refer to God.

The government of the mainly Muslim nation has condemned the attacks on the churches and vowed to take action.

About 60% of Malaysians are Malay Muslims and the government relies on their vote.

There also significant Chinese and Indian minorities, who are mainly Christians, Hindus and Buddhists.

The controversy stems from a ban on a Catholic newspaper, The Herald, using the word Allah.

The Kuala Lumpur High Court struck down the three-year old ban on non-Muslims using of the word Allah.

Some major Muslim organisations, including the Islamic political party, PAS, have agreed with the court, saying other Abrahamic religions - Christinaity and Judiasm - may use the word.

But some vocal groups, including the Muslim Youth Movement, Abim, have cast the use of the word Allah as a surreptitious effort on the part of Christians to try to seduce Muslims away from Islam.

Church officials say that although the word Allah originated in Arabic, Malays have used it for centuries to refer generally to God, and Arabic-speaking Christians used it before Islam was founded, reports the BBC's religious affairs correspondent Robert Pigott.

Molotov cocktails

The argument has continued in the media and the courts for months but had not become violent - until assailants on motorbikes were seen smashing the windows of the Metro Tabernacle Church, a Protestant church in Kuala Lumpur on Friday.

The ground floor office of the three-storey church was destroyed in a blaze a little after midnight, said Kevin Ang, a church spokesman.
Most of Malaysia's population is Muslim


Kuala Lumpur police Chief Mohamad Sabtu Osman said police had found a wrench, an empty petrol tin and two scorched motorbikes at the scene.

Separately, Molotov cocktails were thrown into the compounds of two other churches before dawn, causing minor damage in one and none in the other, church officials said.

Prime Minister Najib Razak condemned the attacks, saying such actions would "destroy our country's harmony".

"The government will take whatever steps it can to prevent such acts," he said.

There was tight security at all churches in Malaysia and at several mosques where protests against the court's ruling took place, says the BBC's Jennifer Pak in Kuala Lumpur.

Mass nationwide demonstrations failed to materialise on Friday, but protesters at mosques in Kuala Lumpur carried placards reading "Allah is only for us" and "Heresy arises from words wrongly used".

"I hope the court will understand the feeling of the majority Muslims of Malaysia," said Ahmad Johari, at the National Mosque.

"We can fight to the death over this issue," he told Associated Press news agency.

The government has appealed against the court verdict and the High Court has suspended the decision's implementation until the appeal is heard.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8447450.stm
 
How utterly ridiculous and appalling. My prayers are with the Christians in Malaysia suffering from such unjust persecution.
 
Church fire-bombed in Malaysia

:sl: Brothers and Sisters.

On last Thursday something bad has happened to the Churches in Malaysia.

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/jan/07/malaysian-church-fire-bombed-amid-allah-dispute/

I am really angry towards the people who have done that to the Church. That doesn't show peace but rather that shows that Muslims are indeed rebellious and dangerous but the truth is we're not that type of religion.Haven't they still learn on the 9/11 case? Sorry to bring that up but this people have really cross the line.

Are you guys assuming that extremists have done this? I think so too
 
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Why aren't there any responses to this? This is awful! Is it only that that muslims matter?
 
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Nabiel said:
:sl: Brothers and Sisters.

On last Thursday something bad has happened to the Churches in Malaysia.

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/jan/07/malaysian-church-fire-bombed-amid-allah-dispute/

I am really angry towards the people who have done that to the Church. That doesn't show peace but rather that shows that Muslims are indeed rebellious and dangerous but the truth is we're not that type of religion.Haven't they still learn on the 9/11 case? Sorry to bring that up but this people have really cross the line.

Are you guys assuming that extremists have done this? I think so too
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Aslamu.alaaykum..
i think its people who lack knowledge of Islaam...and do what theyre brainwashed to do "kill all the jewss and christians" this is what they do, they take the verses there wayss..and do what they think is okay..
THinking they will enter Jannah by calling the Christians and jews, like that.
They have indeed crossed the line..

And about 9/11 nobody has proven it was actually the muslims who caused that attack to happen!!!!.. its only the media who say that,, i say Allahu alam. why believe what the media says, they have already said enough about Muslims. isnt that still enough for you "NOT" to believe the media. SubhanAllaah people believe everything that is said on a big black box,, but questionn in Islaam soo much, like they need the proof, but the media hardly gives any proof but they believe.. People are getting brainwashedd its disgusting and pathethic, Insha`Allaah may Allaah guide such people.. Ameen

forgive me if i had said anyhing badimsad, just my view InshaAllaah.:statisfie
wa alaykum salaam
 
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Blackpool said:
Why aren't there any responses to this? This is awful! Is it only that that muslims matter?
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were is your outrage when your 'heroes' bomb Muslim Mosques? lol its amazing that a hypocrite like you dares to even open his mouth after all the Mosques your country has destroyed.
 
the government should allow the Malaysians to decide on this, if the majority of Malaysians do not want Christians using the name Allah, then thats their right and that should be passed into law. just like how the swiss banned minarets, they put it to a vote, and the result came out, the same should be done here.
 
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The_Prince said:
were is your outrage when your 'heroes' bomb Muslim Mosques? lol its amazing that a hypocrite like you dares to even open his mouth after all the Mosques your country has destroyed.
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How many muslim mosques get bombed in the uk? or by people in the uk? ^o)
 
The_Prince said:
the government should allow the Malaysians to decide on this, if the majority of Malaysians do not want Christians using the name Allah, then thats their right and that should be passed into law. just like how the swiss banned minarets, they put it to a vote, and the result came out, the same should be done here.
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I agree. It's probably just a minority of Muslims in Malaysia, and it's not like the Muslim population of Malaysia could overwhelm the non Muslim population easily, with only 60% being Muslim. Even so, it does highlight the stupidity of humanity. Humanity has a potential to be so smart, yet people, like these Malaysians, act so stupid.
 
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The_Prince said:
were is your outrage when your 'heroes' bomb Muslim Mosques? lol its amazing that a hypocrite like you dares to even open his mouth after all the Mosques your country has destroyed.
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Do you have any articles/statisitics of non Muslims bombing mosques? It'd be interesting to know.
 
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Muslim World 12 said:
Aslamu.alaaykum..
i think its people who lack knowledge of Islaam...and do what theyre brainwashed to do "kill all the jewss and christians" this is what they do, they take the verses there wayss..and do what they think is okay..
THinking they will enter Jannah by calling the Christians and jews, like that.
They have indeed crossed the line..

And about 9/11 nobody has proven it was actually the muslims who caused that attack to happen!!!!.. its only the media who say that,, i say Allahu alam. why believe what the media says, they have already said enough about Muslims. isnt that still enough for you "NOT" to believe the media. SubhanAllaah people believe everything that is said on a big black box,, but questionn in Islaam soo much, like they need the proof, but the media hardly gives any proof but they believe.. People are getting brainwashedd its disgusting and pathethic, Insha`Allaah may Allaah guide such people.. Ameen

forgive me if i had said anyhing badimsad, just my view InshaAllaah.:statisfie
wa alaykum salaam
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There sure are some strange people in the world. Violence to prohibit a word! May Allah give them what they diserve. As for 9/11, Bin Laden took credit for it on tape more than once.
 
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mystical_moon said:
How many muslim mosques get bombed in the uk? or by people in the uk? ^o)
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That's just ridiculous you even ask that. The whole infrastructure has been destroyed in places like Iraq and Afghanistan killing thousands of Innocent muslims and destroying their places of worship. It does not only have to affect a mosque local to you for you to condemn such things.

Having said that, in no way am I saying that what has been done in Malaysia is right too. I fully condemn it. Maybe they're just a bunch of ignorant Muslims.
 
Abdullahii said:
Settlers attack West Bank mosque and burn holy Muslim books

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article6953281.ece


both ways its absolutely shocking the clear message is no place of worship should be destroyed and those who do will get their punishment
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Thanks for that link, I'd heard about it. I too agree that any holy place should never be desecrated or destroyed, and that includes converted into a place of worship for another religion. Even my church, which was only built ten years ago and houses about 200 worshippers with modern, youth based worship is too sacred to be damaged.
 
The_Prince said:
the government should allow the Malaysians to decide on this, if the majority of Malaysians do not want Christians using the name Allah, then thats their right and that should be passed into law. just like how the swiss banned minarets, they put it to a vote, and the result came out, the same should be done here.
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What is the Malaysian word for God?
Is there a reason why Christians use the word Allah? Could they use an alternative word?
 
Supreme said:
I too agree that any holy place should never be desecrated or destroyed, and that includes converted into a place of worship for another religion.
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Amen to that, Supreme.

Hopefully we can all agree to that statement and strongly speak against such actions - regardless of the religion they are carried out against!
 
Assalam aleykoum,


Allah SWT is the translation of GOD, is it hard to understand that ?

Jews, christian or any body in this world can say Allah SWT, what is the matter.

Do you mean Muslims have their god, what I understand there is only one god call him with the best name, only one.


Peace be upon to you all, god, Allah SWT bless you .
 
thetruth2009 said:
Assalam aleykoum,


Allah SWT is the translation of GOD, is it hard to understand that ?

Jews, christian or any body in this world can say Allah SWT, what is the matter.
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That's what I thought.

My question is, if the word for God is indeed Allah, then what alternative word for God are Malaysian non-Muslims supposed to use?

Do you mean Muslims have their god, what I understand there is only one god call him with the best name, only one.
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Well said.
Obviously many people in Malaysia disagree. I would love to understand their reasoning behind this.

Peace be upon to you all, god, Allah SWT bless you .
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Amen to that. :)
 

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