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By Jamal Naji and Leila Fadel, McClatchy Newspapers Wed May 28, 8:00 PM ET

FALLUJAH, Iraq — At the western entrance to the Iraqi city of Fallujah Tuesday, Muamar Anad handed his residence badge to the U.S. Marines guarding the city. They checked to be sure that he was a city resident, and when they were done, Anad said, a Marine slipped a coin out of his pocket and put it in his hand.

Out of fear, he accepted it, Anad said. When he was inside the city, the college student said, he looked at one side of the coin. "Where will you spend eternity?" it asked.

He flipped it over, and on the other side it read, "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. John 3:16."

"They are trying to convert us to Christianity," said Anad, a Sunni Muslim like most residents of this city in Anbar province. At home, he told his story, and his relatives echoed their disapproval: They'd been given the coins, too, he said.

Fallujah , the scene of a bloody U.S. offensive against Sunni insurgents in 2004, has calmed and grown less hostile to American troops since residents turned against al Qaida in Iraq , which had tried to force its brand of Islamist extremism on the population.

Now residents of the city are abuzz that some Americans whom they consider occupiers are also acting as Christian missionaries. Residents said some Marines at the western entrance to their city have been passing out the coins for two days in what they call a "humiliating" attempt to convert them to Christianity.

In the markets, people crowded around men with the coins, passing them to each other and asking in surprise, "Have you seen this?"

The head of the Sunni endowment in Fallujah , the organization that oversees Sunni places of worship and other religious establishments, demanded that the Marines stop.

"We say to the occupiers to stop this," said Sheikh Mohammed Amin Abdel Hadi . "This can cause strife between the Iraqis and especially between Muslim and Christians . . . . Please stop these things and leave our homes because we are Muslims and we live in our homes in peace with other religions."

"Iraq is investigating a report that U.S. military personnel in Fallujah handed-out material that is religious and evangelical in nature," said Rear Adm. Patrick Driscoll , a U.S. military spokesman, in a statement e-mailed to McClatchy . "Local commanders are investigating since the military prohibits proselytizing any religion, faith or practices."

In interviews, residents of Fallujah repeated two words— "humiliation" and "weakness".

"Because we are weak this is happening," said a shop owner who gave his name as Abu Abdullah . "Passing Christianity this way is disrespectful."

"The occupier is repeatedly trespassing on God and his religion," said Omar Delli , 23. "Now the occupier is planting seeds of strife between the Muslims and Christians. We demand the government in Fallujah have a new demonstration to let the occupier know that these things are humiliating Islam and the Quran."

The controversy over the coins that Iraqis said some Marines are passing out comes on the heels of a tempest triggered by a U.S. sniper who used the Quran, Islam's holy book, for target practice. The sniper was pulled out of Iraq after tribal leaders on May 9 found a Quran with 14 bullet holes and graffiti on the pages.

In Islam, the holy book is never to touch the floor, let alone be defaced. Iraqi leaders condemned the actions, U.S. generals apologized and President Bush offered a personal apology to Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al Maliki .

In Fallujah , Mohammed Jaber saw one of the coins and said he thought of the bullets lodged in the Quran, the torture of Iraqi men at the Abu Ghraib prison in 2004 and the rape of a 14-year-old girl and her murder and that of her family in Mahmoudiya.

"Now we have this missionary way by these coins," he said. "We feel the Muslims are weak and we hope that we will reach a point when we are strong to let them know what is wrong and what is right."

Naji is a McClatchy special correspondent in Fallujah .

Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20080529/wl_mcclatchy/2951727
 
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Make that ONE Marine....he has been pulled.

U.S. reassigns Marine for passing out Bible verses to Muslims

Jamal Naji / MCT

U.S. Marines are handing out this coin, imprinted with a Gospel verse, to Fallujah residents. | View larger image
By Leila Fadel and Jamal Naji | McClatchy Newspapers
BAGHDAD, Iraq — The U.S. military confirmed Thursday that a Marine in Fallujah passed out coins with a Gospel verse on them to Sunni Muslims, a military spokesman in the Iraqi city said. The man was immediately removed from the checkpoint and reassigned.

The coins angered residents who said they felt that the American troops, whom they consider occupiers, were also acting as Christian missionaries in a predominantly Muslim nation.

"It did happen," said Mike Isho, a spokesman for Multi National Forces West. "It's one guy and we're investigating."

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/iraq/story/38870.html

Thanks.
 
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He couldn't have found a worse verse to use, could he? I mean, come on, how many Muslims are going to be impressed by bringing up the God had a son who died thing?
 
None of those links had anything to do with this.

If your point is that there are christians in the US military...well, I'm shocked to hear that.
 
If your point is that there are christians in the US military...well, I'm shocked to hear that.

Not Christians... Evangelicals ~ and don't tell me you don't know the difference or what they have in mind!

“I realize that our message is inherently offensive and divisive, especially in this new age of tolerance."

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Isn't it the duty of all christians to preach the gospel like it is for muslims to spread the work of Allah?

These don't just preach and share gospel. They're zealots and you really should READ those links I provided. Contrary to Gator's assumption that the soldier was not Evangelical, a single soldier does not mint coins for distribution to Iraqis all by his lonesome. But it's simpler to hide behind factions under an umbrella term like Christian.

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So evangelicals are taking over the military and going to foment a revolution of a US Theocracy based on fundamentalist interpretation of the bible and snake handling.

Got it. Thanks.

An estimated 70 million Americans call themselves evangelicals, and their beliefs have already reshaped American politics. In the last election, 40 percent of the votes for George W. Bush came from their ranks.

READ!!!

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These don't just preach and share gospel. They're zealots and you really should READ those links I provided. Contrary to Gator's assumption that the soldier was not Evangelical, a single soldier does not mint coins for distribution to Iraqis all by his lonesome. But it's simpler to hide behind factions under an umbrella term like Christian.

The Ninth Scribe
You can get thaose coins and 50 million other things at you local christian book store. People send stuff like this in care packages all the time.
 
The coins are their cause their used in the States for evangelical dawah. So he brought some over. If they find the directive from Bush to systematically use the Marine Corps to spread evangelical christianity (which would be against the UCMJ), then i'd be worried.

Do you get the differnce. Its not institutional. Like when a people are beheaded in the name of Allah, I don't blame Islamic society as a whole, just those evil nutcases. Right.
 
The coins are their cause their used in the States for evangelical dawah. So he brought some over. If they find the directive from Bush to systematically use the Marine Corps to spread evangelical christianity (which would be against the UCMJ), then i'd be worried.

Do you get the differnce. Its not institutional. Like when a people are beheaded in the name of Allah, I don't blame Islamic society as a whole, just those evil nutcases. Right.

An estimated 70 million Americans call themselves evangelicals, and their beliefs have already reshaped American politics. In the last election, 40 percent of the votes for George W. Bush came from their ranks.

Do you get the difference?

The Ninth Scribe
 
The coins are their cause their used in the States for evangelical dawah. So he brought some over.

He... brought... some.... over? Really? Written in... ARABIC?

"Multi-National Force-Iraq is investigating a report that U.S. military personnel in Fallujah handed-out material that is religious and evangelical in nature," the spokesman, Rear Adm. Patrick Driscoll, said in a statement e-mailed to McClatchy. "Local commanders are investigating since the military prohibits proselytizing any religion, faith or practices."

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bottom line

whether it was one troop or a thousand, they have no business promoting any kind of religion.. This is nothing but a step backwards.. It is the same with any entity or business, you can do 10,000 good deeds but the 1 bad deed will carry more weight because that news will travel faster. This was just plain stupid..

Also Izyan, you will never find a Muslim doing this, as a Muslim is not told to "spread the word of Allah (SAW)", a Muslim has the obligation to pass on the word of Allah (SAW) if he/she is inquired upon, but there are no "evangelist" muslims
 
Our Dawah is through our character or invitation. We dont just go up to people and start talking religion or slip a little something in their hands. We don't go to someones door promoting our faith. Unless someone discusses religion with me or asks me something, I dont say anything. There's a huge difference.