Math Geniuses..come in here plz..(derivitives)

^ actually correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't the gradient of a veritcal line indeterminate? coz its like a cusp ? they only say its 'infinite' but you don't really get the value 'infinity' when you try find the gradient.

salams
 
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Perhaps you are right lolwatever....

I was thinking about dividing by a number which tends to 0....

like 0.000001, because when you do this you get a large number.

But I think I've confused myself lol

wa Allahu alam
 
lolwatever said:
^ lol sis i think he's referring to f(g) when he says fog.... basically suppose you have a function

g(x) = x^2

and another function f,

f(x) = 3x+2

f(g) (fog) basically means you take g(x) and substitute x for g(x) in f(x)... so f(g) becomes:

f(g) = 3(x^2) + 2



ya ur right... another way to look at it is.. if you take the hoirzontal line

y = 3

and take the derivative of that .... it would be zero. (derivative of a constant is zero).

or.. analysing it fromt he defintion of gradietn = 'rise/run'.... the rise of a horizontal line is zero.. so zero divided by one is zero

take care all the best
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Are you trying to tell me that the function of a line with a gradient of zero has nothing to do with a frog, or what?...








.. . I thought about it and decided that this is only because frogs hop on a plane rather than a line, Salam=Waram mathematicians
 
Tiddalik is a really big frog who drinks up all the water, then all the animals have to try to make him laugh so that he coughs it all up.

It is an Aboriginal Dreamtime story which most Aussie children learn as a school play in infants school, and my house is right on the Dream line/Ley line, which that story belongs too. So truly I best not claim it to be my own science, though the idea fancies me.

Great minds think alike! (even when the tools in use take a different shape)
 
Curaezipirid said:
Are you trying to tell me that the function of a line with a gradient of zero has nothing to do with a frog, or what?...


.. . I thought about it and decided that this is only because frogs hop on a plane rather than a line, Salam=Waram mathematicians
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lol sister Curaezipirid...you and me are thinking the same thing...mathematicians! :muddlehea

:w:

;D ;D ;D
 
Curaezipirid said:
Tiddalik is a really big frog who drinks up all the water, then all the animals have to try to make him laugh so that he coughs it all up.

It is an Aboriginal Dreamtime story which most Aussie children learn as a school play in infants school, and my house is right on the Dream line/Ley line, which that story belongs too. So truly I best not claim it to be my own science, though the idea fancies me.

Great minds think alike! (even when the tools in use take a different shape)
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so do dumb ones ;D


(i'm the dumb mind in this case nt u :hiding:)
 
Mathematicians need constant suctioning from the rather plentiful examples of calculus they note down in pen and paper. Ever one that can exist is done. So best to never cognise another one. Each of the shaytan whom, in truth, are who will get that they did it, the moon, are in causation one set of tangential equivalences. Which is why I look no further, that that which proves that marxism can, since if I have to be an ist, rather marx than is lamb
 
lolwatever said:
heya jayda... could you explain it perhaps by presenting an example

i didnt quite understand the pattern.. but i got a feeling its to do with sequences and series..

take carea ll the best!
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hola lolwatever,

for example, i am given $10,000 and decide to put it in a bank where i get 1% interest every week. each week i recieve 1% interest on my account, and i put that 1% interest i have collected right back into the account...

week 1: 10,000 + 1% = week 2: 10,100 + 1% = week 3: 10,201 +1% = week 4:

so on so forth for the duration of one year (52 weeks)... i am trying to find out what the total amount of money in the bank will be at the end of one year. and if somebody could explain the formula (i think it involves permutations?) i would be very grateful!

mucho gracias
annette
 
Curaezipirid said:
are you adding 1% onto 10 000 to get 10 100
then also putting 1% back into the 10 000 which also sort of is 10 100
but how can we perform that operation twice
except that it is implicit in repeating the process with 10 100 that adding and putting back are the same
so 52 operations of add/put back 1% of 10 000

= a pattern that is definitely beyond the number at which I would assume that it continues in the same fashion as the earliest pattern which shows

eg. I might have said, if the question was only 41 more operations that the answer is like 14242

BUT after 42 the pattern most likely goes askew. But my self ain't going to sit down with pen and paper to make those calculations right now to know for certain. Fourty two has a stop probability higher than other numbers, and that ain't no superstition but a verifiable fact of logic.

Look at the safe curve by: 9>13>18>26>36>42.

However as far as derivatives and differentials go you lot are all far surpassing me. I learned late as a teenager by accident of a change of teacher and then over relied upon my father who is as often as not less accurate than I am (shhh). Then I had to relearn at University in which I remember distinctly looking at the measuring of a tangent with utter horror: "they can't do that!" So we stop at the fourty two, because the thirty six was bad enough, and the top of the range is the twenty six in this sum. (I hope the Mahdi sorts it all out.)

True it is often difficult for believers to comprehend calculus becasue in the real world what many of the set examples which are used are able to be deciphered into is that need for Jahannam to exist! There is only one example of calculus which is representative of Qur'an, and it is which ever example it is which causes the mind to orient to Revelations Isa made to St John the Evangelist.

But that is the utter limit of mathematical genius, and what is the meaning of the word genius anyhow? Is it derived from "genesis"? or at least having the same greek or latin root?
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gracias Curaezipirid

this is close to i think what i am asking... are you reinvesting the 1% and taking account for that when you recalculate interest for the next week in the formula you worked out?

if i may ask could you perhaps clarify what you mean about Calculus representing the quran? that was very confusing to me... i do not understand those arabic words you used...

gracias
 
Jayda said:
hola lolwatever,

for example, i am given $10,000 and decide to put it in a bank where i get 1% interest every week. each week i recieve 1% interest on my account, and i put that 1% interest i have collected right back into the account...

week 1: 10,000 + 1% = week 2: 10,100 + 1% = week 3: 10,201 +1% = week 4:

so on so forth for the duration of one year (52 weeks)... i am trying to find out what the total amount of money in the bank will be at the end of one year. and if somebody could explain the formula (i think it involves permutations?) i would be very grateful!

mucho gracias
annette
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Heya Jayda,

Ok here's the formula we gonna use:

I = C(1+ (r/100))^n

It's called the 'compound interest' equation, compound basically means... the interest given to your account keeps getting fed back in and the interest is 're-applied' to it.. so on and so forth.

I'll define the terms:

I = Final value of investment.
C = Initial Capital invested (10,000)
r = Interest Paid to your investment. (1%)
n = time period (in our case, 52 weeks)

Plugging in the values:

I = C * (1+ (r/100))^n

I = 10,000 * ( 1+ (1/100) ) ^ 52

simplifying...

I = 10,000 * (1.01) ^ 52

plugging into calc.. we get..

I = 16,776.88921

converting it to a reasonable answer...

I = $16,776.90

Hope that helps :)


Take care all the best!
 
Jayda said:
gracias!! you just helped me set up my first charity!

Dios te bendiga
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lol no probs netime.


Jayda said:
gracias Curaezipirid

this is close to i think what i am asking... are you reinvesting the 1% and taking account for that when you recalculate interest for the next week in the formula you worked out?

if i may ask could you perhaps clarify what you mean about Calculus representing the quran? that was very confusing to me... i do not understand those arabic words you used...

gracias
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^ i think Cura was just mucking around. lol.. :rollseyes
 

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