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The attachment shows the growing concern for Middle Eastern influence in Bosnia. The Saudi view of Islam is increasingly popular for Bosnian Muslims, who in previous years did not adopt such behaviors.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgMKQeecLV0&eurl=


Any opinions from those who feel that western societies should not influence the Middle East? It looks like the influence of East and West is mutual.
 
renak said:
The attachment shows the growing concern for Middle Eastern influence in Bosnia. The Saudi view of Islam is increasingly popular for Bosnian Muslims, who in previous years did not adopt such behaviors.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgMKQeecLV0&eurl=


Any opinions from those who feel that western societies should not influence the Middle East? It looks like the influence of East and West is mutual.
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this is rubbish

"saudi view of islam?" since when was "saudi view of islam" radical??? there is only 1 islam.
 
sonz said:
this is rubbish

"saudi view of islam?" since when was "saudi view of islam" radical??? there is only 1 islam.
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That's like saying there is only one Christianity. There are many views of Islam. If you choose to believe otherwise, and consider muslims those who strictly follow the quran/sunnah/hadith, then I would argue that there are very few muslims in this world. Of course the same can be said about Christianity.
 
renak said:
...Middle Eastern influence in Bosnia. ....

Any opinions from those who feel that western societies should not influence the Middle East? It looks like the influence of East and West is mutual.
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You make it sound as if Bosnia is a western Christian society. Bosnian Muslims are already a part of the larger Turko-Islamic culture, which is a part of the Middle Eastern culture.

The only objection can be that the "Salafist" Arabs should leave it to us mainstream Sunnis to influence Bosnians, as was in the past.
 
You make it sound as if Bosnia is a western Christian society. Bosnian Muslims are already a part of the larger Turko-Islamic culture, which is a part of the Middle Eastern culture.

The only objection can be that the "Salafist" Arabs should leave it to us mainstream Sunnis to influence Bosnians, as was in the past.
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Or one could whine about turkish/ottoman imperialism which had turned a previously Christian people to partly Muslim one, right?
 
No, you can't do that.

The Bosnians were Bogomils, a minority that was oppressed by other Christians. They embraced the Muslim liberators heartily.
 
No, you can't do that.

The Bosnians were Bogomils, a minority that was oppressed by other Christians. They embraced the Muslim liberators heartily.
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I know a few Bosnians who would disagree. What about ethnic serbs and croats who have lived there for centuries? They are as "bosnian" as any other ethnic group there. And aren't they Slavic peoples, south slavic?
I guess we are confusing our meaning of Bosnian. What is a Bosnian but someone who lived there, a nationality, now, or a part of old yugoslavia, then?
 
I was under the impression that that Bosnia was still considered Eastern European. Is this not correct? I'm not referring to the influence of the Ottoman Empire many years ago.
 
I was under the impression that that Bosnia was still considered Eastern European.
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You are right in a general way. If you look at all of the reportage from the war one of the main recurring themes was that "this is happening in Europe"... . So yes, I think Europe considers Bosnia European as do all of the Bosnians I know.
 
Knut Hamsun said:
You are right in a general way. If you look at all of the reportage from the war one of the main recurring themes was that "this is happening in Europe"... . So yes, I think Europe considers Bosnia European as do all of the Bosnians I know.
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I don't know Bosnians but I know Serbs, and until recently, they existed in one country (Yugo). I know Serbs consider themselves European.
 
renak said:
I don't know Bosnians but I know Serbs, and until recently, they existed in one country (Yugo). I know Serbs consider themselves European.
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Before - Serbs, Bosnians and Croats are the same ethnic groups. Only religions make them different from each others.

Now - Based on their surnames, they differentiate each others not because of religions. They're Serbs who are Muslims, Bosniak who are Atheists and Croats who are Buddhists.
 
I still think that it is safe to say that this a classic example of the East influencing the West.
 
Is Middle East - East or west?

If Middle east is EAST - it means European had been easternized 2 millenias ago by converting to Christianity - A religion originated from Midlle East.
 
north_malaysian said:
Is Middle East - East or west?

If Middle east is EAST - it means European had been easternized 2 millenias ago by converting to Christianity - A religion originated from Midlle East.
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Christianity did originate in the East. However, I am not referring the Eastern and Western influence of thousands or hundreds of years ago. Let's focus on the influence within the last 100 years.
 
Bosnia is considered European, but Bosnia's futute is not in Europe but within a united Islamic caliphate. Honestly there are problems with Muslims from Bosnia as there are from other countries. Bosniaks (Bosnian Muslims) in my view do not practice Islam that was practiced by the Sahabba or even to to what mainstream sunni states is Islam. Even though most Bosniaks are sunni they are increasingly secular from my experiences and that is unfortunate. In my view many Muslims around the world today are not practising Islam as the Sahabba and the Prophet Muhammad sallahu alahiwa salaam. If we were Islam would be dominate force in the world but rather Muslims are being humiliated. Until Muslims unite under one common banner then none of us can state that we practice Islam properly. Bosnaiks, Chechens and others honestly do not have a strong knowledge base of Islam, all they may know is La Illaha Illallah Muhmmadur Rasullah. Authentic knowledge is important to convey in Bosnia and Muslims from Saudi can and shoul do it. there is only one form of Islam that will be accepted at the is Islam that Prophet and his Sahaaba were on. That is the Islam that needs to be conveyed in Bosnia and elsewhere not wahabbism, sunniam, shiaism, sufism, or whatever the Islam of the Prophet is our solution.
 
Salaam

Wow so judgmental lol, how about you fly out and give dawa in bosnia and chechnya.