Hello everyone,
I'm new here, And before I start this, I don't know a lot about Islam, I don't know much about it, All what I know is that, This religion is so disliked by my family, my local church, my friends.
I came here because I want to know the truth and it's been making my brain really void since I knew about this religion.
See, my local church and my family have said many things about Muslims,Mohamed,Koran, and they have talked absolute trash about it.
For instance, the priest called Mohamed a false prophet, and he was never mentioned in the bible, he even crossed the line and said that he doesn't even exist.
Now what makes me quiet is that, IF he is surely a false prophet , then why are there 1.8 billion people following him? if he is so generous, kind , and merciful, then why are we saying that he is a false prophet, if he has all of these lovely characteristics?
It makes me go back to the Bible and question if he was prophesied.We Christians say that he wasn't, for example, I believe you guys say that Gabriel came to Mohamed and taught him the Koran? I told this to my priest and he said it could've been a devil. he also said
"Here's a few points to think about -
- The Koran declares that Christians find Muhammad mentioned in our scriptures. Yet our scriptures call Muhammad an antichrist (1 John 2:22-23).
I've read the New Testament (many times), and have not seen this claim. Can you show me?
According to Muslim sources, Muhammad once delivered a revelation from the devil (the "Satanic Verses").
And it was abrogated fast when Gabriel informed Muhammad pbuh that the verse he was revealed was from satan.
Let's not forget - satan also came to Jesus to tempt him to go astray too - does this now disqualify Jesus as and holy man?
You see dear sister, A double standard such as this only exposes the hypocrisy of the priests and scholars within Christianity, however i'm not so arrogant that i'll tarnish them all with this brush, but I have to admit, a good few of them do deserve to see that proverbial mirror, so to speak.
- When Muhammad began receiving revelations, his first impression of these revelations was that they were demonic.
Understandably so, an otherworldy entity, an Angel, appears to a man. How is man supposed to react? With fear. These are powerful beings. Whereas we are but flesh and blood.
You claim you read the bible, so you'd know that whenever God sent angels to men, they first feared them outright - let's not forget Abraham pbuh whom was visited by three angels and became terrified and cowered. I can cite many other examples here, but you know I do not need to, especially given tht whenever Angels turned up on earth, it was usually to destroy a civilization. Soddom, Gomorrha, et al.
Trembling in fear in the close proximity of an Angel is perfectly normal.
Or did you think they were fairies?
- Muhammad ordered his followers to kill apostates, even if they had good reasons for leaving Islam.
Apostasy is divided into two types: major and minor. Muslim scholars, using the Prophet’s traditions as their guide, have divided unbelief, idolatry, hypocrisy, and sin into major and minor categories. Likewise, there is a distinction between an apostate who intends to physically harm the community and an apostate who only spiritually harms himself.
Minor apostasy is when a person embraces Islam while knowing its virtues and later rejects it. There is no legal punishment for the minor apostate as long as they do not try to physically harm the Muslim community. Major apostasy is when a person embraces Islam while knowing its virtues and later rejects it and adds to this a call for violent rebellion against the Muslim authorities. Such a crime is equivalent to high treason and in its most severe case can carry the death penalty as an act of self-defense for the community.
Allah said:إِنَّ الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا ثُمَّ كَفَرُوا ثُمَّ آمَنُوا ثُمَّ كَفَرُوا ثُمَّ ازْدَادُوا كُفْرًا لَّمْ يَكُنِ اللَّهُ لِيَغْفِرَ لَهُمْ وَلَا لِيَهْدِيَهُمْ سَبِيلًا
Verily, those who believed and then disbelieved, then believed and then disbelieved and increased in disbelief, never will Allah forgive them nor will He guide them to a right way.
Surah An-Nisa 4:137
لَا إِكْرَاهَ فِي الدِّينِ قَد تَّبَيَّنَ الرُّشْدُ مِنَ الْغَيِّ
There is no compulsion in religion. The truth is distinct from misguidance.
Surah Al-Baqarah 2:256
وَقُلِ الْحَقُّ مِن رَّبِّكُمْ فَمَن شَاءَ فَلْيُؤْمِن وَمَن شَاءَ فَلْيَكْفُرْ
Say: The truth is from your Lord. So whoever wills let him believe, and whoever wills let him disbelieve.
Surah Al-Kahf 18:29
الْمَدِينَةُ كَالْكِيرِ تَنْفِي خَبَثَهَا، وَيَنْصَعُ طَيِّبُهَا
Medina is like a furnace. It expels its impurities and collects what is pure.
Source: Sahih Bukhari 1784, Grade: Sahih
وَالتَّارِكُ لِدِينِهِ الْمُفَارِقُ لِلْجَمَاعَةِ
The one who leaves his religion and separates from the community.
Source: Sahih Muslim 1676, Grade: Sahih
رَجُلٌ يَخْرُجُ مِنَ الإِسْلاَمِ يُحَارِبُ اللَّهَ عَزَّ وَجَلَّ وَرَسُولَهُ
A man who rejects Islam and wages war against Allah the Exalted and His Messenger.
Source: Sunan An-Nasa’i 4048
فَمَنْ قَتَلَ وَأَفْسَدَ فِي الأَرْضِ وَحَارَبَ اللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ ثُمَّ لَحِقَ بِالْكُفَّارِ قَبْلَ أَنْ يُقْدَرَ عَلَيْهِ لَمْ يَمْنَعْهُ ذَلِكَ أَنْ يُقَامَ فِيهِ الْحَدُّ الَّذِي أَصَابَ
Whoever kills others, spreads corruption in the land, wages war against Allah and His Messenger, and he joins the unbelievers before he is subdued, then there is nothing to prevent the legal punishment from being applied to him because of what he did.
Source: Sunan An-Nasa’i 4046
حَارَبَ اللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ
One who wages are against Allah and His Messenger.
Source: Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 4334, Grade: Sahih
أَعَفُّ النَّاسِ قِتْلَةً أَهْلُ الْإِيمَانِ
The most restrained of the people regarding killing are the people of faith.
Source: Musnad Ahmad 3720, Grade: Sahih
كَانَ عَبْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ سَعْدِ بْنِ أَبِي سَرْحٍ يَكْتُبُ لِرَسُولِ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ فَأَزَلَّهُ الشَّيْطَانُ فَلَحِقَ بِالْكُفَّارِ فَأَمَرَ بِهِ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ أَنْ يُقْتَلَ يَوْمَ الْفَتْحِ فَاسْتَجَارَ لَهُ عُثْمَانُ بْنُ عَفَّانَ فَأَجَارَهُ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ
Abdullah ibn Sa’d ibn Abi Sarh would write to the Messenger of Allah but the devil deceived him and he joined the unbelievers. The Messenger of Allah ordered that he should be killed on the day of liberation, but Uthman ibn Affan sought protection for him, so the Messenger of Allah granted him protection.
Source: Sunan Abu Dawud 4358, Grade: Sahih
ذِمَّةُ الْمُسْلِمِينَ وَاحِدَةٌ يَسْعَى بِهَا أَدْنَاهُمْ
The covenant of the Muslims is one covenant, and they strive to fulfill it among the least of them.
Source: Sunan Al-Kubra Al-Bayhaqi 15464, Grade: Sahih
- The Koran commands Muslims to violently subjugate Jews and Christians"
I can pull up the verse in question and the applicable context to it, but there's an even simpler way to disprove the claim. 1400+ years, not one example of a recognised Muslim Authority subjugating Jews and Christians - in fact when Jerusalem was ruled by Muslims, guess what? Jews were allowed to practice their faith freely and even judge their own according to their own laws, same with the Christians... is this subjugation?
When Jerusalem was threatened by outsiders, the Muslims defended it, while the Jews and Christians of the city remained safe and protected from the battles taking place outside of their own walls - where is the subjugation? Had the Muslims not been there to defend the city, the Jews and Christians would have been crushed.
The Jews and Christians paid a Dhimmi tax which was actually lower than the standard Zakaat tax the Muslims were paying - where is the subjugation?
I see many claims by Christians which, when examined, crumble.
And also it says in the Bible, I John 2:22–23. Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist—denying the Father and the Son. No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.
Muslims believe that Jesus pbuh is The Messiah, Christ. BUt English speaking unilingual folk don't even know what "Messiah" means. You think it means "God" lol.
The correct understanding of the word is "one who is anointed with anointing oil, chosen for a special task" - not son of God...
...That's the semitic Hebrew understanding of it - in the correct context - same as what Arabs believe because our two languages are related through common roots. Both, Arabic and Aramaic Hebrew are Semitic languages. while English speakers are reading the bible translated from Greek (which Jesus pbuh never spoke) to other languages and then again to other languages... and the KJV was written by whom? Francis Bacon - who was a 33rd degree freemason... so I ask, how reliable are your definitions? What is Messiah to you?
Not to mention “Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” - John 14:6
Lovely verse - which prophet and messenger of God didn't say this? Find me one.
There are many more verses in the bible which kind of point out that, Mohamed wasn't prophesied in the bible, one verse says that if an angel comes and teaches another gospel other than the gospel that it's currently teaching (the bible) then he is condemned, and as we see today muslims are hated by everyone now.
This claim is debunked in the videos I posted above. Please have a look.
I am confused in this because I've heard some stories on how merciful Mohamed was , and how good he was but as I said my local church's priest gave these arguments.
Ask your priest to join us God willing, I believe it is time to kill his bias.
And Muslims also say that in the Koran it says Mohamed was mentioned in the Bible, even though he wasn't , which proves the koran wrong?
And if I show you where the very word MUHAMMAD is mention in the Songs of Solomon 5:16 - will you then claim it is a "coincidence" in the Old Testament? suggesting that God makes mistakes?
Did you know that in Hebrew Aramaic there is no word for coincidence? Because it's a false concept - so the very word cannot be used in conversation - thus, every seeming coincidence is a proof that God wills. Hence, when Muhammad is mentioned by name in the songs of Solomon 5:16 - clear as day, complete with the Hebrew suffix of respect for a venerated personality - "IM" - at the enf of the name Muhammad - to make it Muhammad-im - we can clearly see the context is proving a person and not a city. If it was Jerusalem he was singing about, the word used would be Jerusal-IM. NOT MUHAMMD-IM.
Please note that , I am in no way hating this religion , I have many good views on it its just that my church and my family have negative points which I also need clarification about, so here are my questions.
Questions are always welcome
And I welcome your questions.
And God bless you too
Scimi