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Several human rights group are calling on Morocco to change its penal code and become the first Arab nation to abolish the death penalty.
Morocco has not used the death penalty since 1994. There is a sense the nation is now ready to make an historic move.

Last month two Moroccans were sentenced to death for terrorism offences.

Only about 40 people have been executed in Morocco since independence - mostly for taking part in coup attempts against the former King Hassan II.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/6291907.stm
 
assalaamu alaykum,

morocco isnt a nation ruled by shariah anyway, so i certainly would not want any brother executed in their courts when they have not been given a fair shariah trial but the death penalty is part of the huddud and we cannot refuse and say it is not or that is kufr as we are saying we know better than Allah.

So good and bad news i would suppose.

Assalaamu Alaykum,
Abu Abdullah
 
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hmm, im not sure sis, i really doubt there is... perhaps the taliban strive most to implement it. Allahu a'lam
 
Dawud_uk said:
assalaamu alaykum,

morocco isnt a nation ruled by shariah anyway, so i certainly would not want any brother executed in their courts when they have not been given a fair shariah trial but the death penalty is part of the huddud and we cannot refuse and say it is not or that is kufr as we are saying we know better than Allah.

So good and bad news i would suppose.

Assalaamu Alaykum,
Abu Abdullah
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Good point death without the sharia permitting it is just plain murder.
 
FollowingAlhuda said:
Their ahlul bid3a you want to read what the scholars say about them?
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ye theres a lot of difference, but subhanAllah i heard they got extremely learned men and strive to implement the sunnah.

Allahu a'lam, i dont think we should judge inshaAllaah.

Its just, there has to be a group "FIGHTING" for justice you know, taifa mansoorah, who is it? who else is fightin?
 
Good, I am against anyhow. There will be mistakes made in any legal system, be it one that is based on shariah or any other legal tradition. Thats because humans are the ones doing the investigation and judging. The death penalty makes it impossible to undo mistakes, which I really don't think is acceptable.
 
obviously you dont believe in GOd, if i didnt think it to be from God, i wouldnt believe in it either. So your view is understandable.

But you see we think its from God and we see logic in it
 
FollowingAlhuda said:
Their ahlul bid3a you want to read what the scholars say about them?
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assalaamu alaykum,

the scholars of jihad who actually met them and stayed with them spoke differently and said they were ahlus sunnah so spoke differently than the scholars who declared them innovators from a distance.

assalaamu alaykum,
Abu Abdullah
 
IbnAbdulHakim said:
ye theres a lot of difference, but subhanAllah i heard they got extremely learned men and strive to implement the sunnah.

Allahu a'lam, i dont think we should judge inshaAllaah.

Its just, there has to be a group "FIGHTING" for justice you know, taifa mansoorah, who is it? who else is fightin?
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I'm not judging i was reverting to the Ulema. Well i can tell you that the Taliban are forsing Sunnah to people, that's not the way our Prophet (Peace and blessing upon him) and the Salaf.

This is the time of Tasfiya and Tarbiya as the scholars agree to this. This is the time to purify the religion from Shirk, bid3a and kufr. There are 1.4 billion muslims and the most of them are seeking age from the awlya. Asking the dead for help. Astaghfirollah....when is the age of Allah gonna come when the muslims are doing this...

Think about it brother, this is the time of tasfiya and tarbiye. The prophet (Peace and blessing be upon him) warned us that troughout the time it will get worse with the muslim ummah.

May Allah keep of on the pure path, may Allah keep us from shirk kufr innovations and innovators insha Allah!
Wassalam
 
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Dawud_uk said:
assalaamu alaykum,

the scholars of jihad who actually met them and stayed with them spoke differently and said they were ahlus sunnah so spoke differently than the scholars who declared them innovators from a distance.

assalaamu alaykum,
Abu Abdullah
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Who are this schollars of jihaad brother?
 
Ameen, i never heard of them forcing sunnah upon people btw. hmm may Allah make clear to us the right and wrong.
 
IbnAbdulHakim said:
Ameen, i never heard of them forcing sunnah upon people btw. hmm may Allah make clear to us the right and wrong.
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Ameen

Well, they do i actually have some muslim girls in my school from Afghanistan. If you would hear what they do with the people. Just forcing them, that's not the way....
 
assalaamu alaykum,

are you saying the islamic state cannot force a women to cover if she refuses? or that you cannot force someone to pray if they are neglegent?

these are both positions of the hanafi madhab which the taliban followed.

i will try to chase down the fatwah i mentioned, i deleted it off my pc. i am not in the habit of keeping information such as that on my hard drive for obvious reasons but as a matter of islamic adhab it is for the one making the allegation to prove it not for me to disprove it.

so if you say they are of ahlus sunnah provide your proof.

assalaamu alaykum,
Abu Abdullah
 
Dawud_uk said:
assalaamu alaykum,

are you saying the islamic state cannot force a women to cover if she refuses? or that you cannot force someone to pray if they are neglegent?

these are both positions of the hanafi madhab which the taliban followed.

i will try to chase down the fatwah i mentioned, i deleted it off my pc. i am not in the habit of keeping information such as that on my hard drive for obvious reasons but as a matter of islamic adhab it is for the one making the allegation to prove it not for me to disprove it.

so if you say they are of ahlus sunnah provide your proof.

assalaamu alaykum,
Abu Abdullah
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No brother i'm telling that the way they ''convey'' the message to the people is not according to what the Prophet (Peace and Blessing be upon him) teached us.

I will insha Allah search for the proove, i also had in on my pc but i deleted it.