Muslims and Islam

[Asiyah3]

Peace Huan,
I don't undrestand you. If you are interested in Islam, why do you let other people's acts and deeds stop you? I mean you could of course advice them, but in the end you're not responsible for others' choices or deeds. Our duty is only to spread the knowledge. And Allah is the best of Judges.


“And whosoever strives, he strives only for himself. Verily, Allaah stands not in need of any of the ‘Aalameen (mankind, jinn, and all that exists)”[al-‘Ankaboot 29:6]

“Whosoever does righteous good deed, it is for (the benefit of) his ownself; and whosoever does evil, it is against his ownself. And your Lord is not at all unjust to (His) slaves”[Fussilat 41:46]


“And keep thy soul content with those who call on their Lord morning and evening, seeking His Face; and let not thine eyes pass beyond them, seeking the pomp and glitter of this Life; no obey any whose heart We have permitted to neglect the remembrance of Us, one who follows his own desires, whose case has gone beyond all bounds.” [Al-Kahf 18:28 (y.a. translation)]

 

[Insaanah]

The topic is just veering off into different and unnecessary tangents. If you want to discuss homosexuality, there are a plethora of threads dedicated to it already.

Perhaps this is what the discussion was really meant to be about, but sometimes people are too embarrassed to say, so have a general vent before saying what's really bothering them.

For e.g. Homosexuality, it sets unrealistic standards that fail to appreciate human nature, and thus leads to less desirable consequences than would be the case were it to have a more realistic understanding of sexuality.

No, it does recognise human nature, which is precisely why, recognising human nature, Islam encourages marriage.

in such situations, islam might be what is at fault, not the people trying to follow it.

See above. Islam is the solution, not the problem.

it's not like they want to be homosexuals, it's just they can't help it.

In the same way that a rapist just can't help it? Or that a brother and sister, or father and daughter might not be able to help it?

Why does it matter to you if 2 adults consent to carry out homosexual acts ? They are not harming anyone, nor causing anyone else any problems.

Because in Islam consenting adults need God's consent, and He does not give His consent to homosexuality. If one adult consents and the other doesn't that's illegal. But how much more important is the consent of He Who lent us our bodies? In Islam, it is not about us indulging in our carnal desires without any limits or boundaries "because we couldn't help it" but channelling them usefully and lawfully within the lawful and clear limits set by God.

That really isn't hard, in fact is a blessing.

If you wish to discuss homosexuality specifically further, there are a number of threads dedicated to it already, just use the search function.

Peace.