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Everything is good, Abdul.

I hope you liked this article. I am proud of these Muslims for going and trying to make life better for some other people. More than most people do, you know? Most people just sit around and complain (me, too), but these people really wanted to help their country and the muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan. I think that is admirable.
 
Everything is good, Abdul.

I hope you liked this article. I am proud of these Muslims for going and trying to make life better for some other people. More than most people do, you know? Most people just sit around and complain (me, too), but these people really wanted to help their country and the muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan. I think that is admirable.


hamsun you know, your right people sit around all day and complain and dont do nothing about anything....(im not targeting anyone by saying that)....you know something people always wanna critisize someone else, but in reality we do not know the intention of the other person, only GOD knows, and you cannot stop someone from doing something, unless GOD wills....just as you cannot guide anyone to a religion unless God wills, becuase GOD is our only guidence.....but i beleive fighting, for a country or flag is not exceptable, unless its for the sake of GOD, ones self defense, protecting ones wealth and family.......

peace to you....
 
How about Muslim Bedouins and Circassians serving in Israeli Defence Force?

That is a pretty extreme analogy. I think some American muslims realize and respect the freedom in which they live (relative to many other countries, mind you--no one lives in a vaccum). Instead of sitting back and complaining, these young people thought they could help more people by going to Iraq than sitting on their couch. And another thing, not all muslims ignore their legal nationality (in this case American). Many see the many contradictions inherent in the psychology of "one ummah" while living in a country that affords you a full right of belief and peaceful practices thereof.
 
I'll throw out another controversial twist....

My Iraqi boyfriend, who is in the USA on a work visa, is trying his hardest to convince his employer that he needs to join the US Army. He feels indebted to the Americans, and thinks that his military service will somehow prove his gratitude. He does not see conflict in being muslim and serving in the US military.
 
I'll throw out another controversial twist....

My Iraqi boyfriend, who is in the USA on a work visa, is trying his hardest to convince his employer that he needs to join the US Army. He feels indebted to the Americans, and thinks that his military service will somehow prove his gratitude. He does not see conflict in being muslim and serving in the US military.

Thats great, but serving for an Army that lied, invaded, and has commited various humanitarian attrocities...i am not quite sure then if its the right choice.

For example: I would not mind joining Canadian Army, cuz we do peacekeeping instead of invading and claiming innocent lifes.

To prove Gratitude, one may do it in another fashion rather than joining army. Such as helping the poor, elderly, educating illiterate people, basically helping communities.
 
Thats great, but serving for an Army that lied, invaded, and has commited various humanitarian attrocities...i am not quite sure then if its the right choice.

For example: I would not mind joining Canadian Army, cuz we do peacekeeping instead of invading and claiming innocent lifes.

To prove Gratitude, one may do it in another fashion rather than joining army. Such as helping the poor, elderly, educating illiterate people, basically helping communities.

He doesn't view the US military in a negative manner. He feels that there were far more attrocities prior to the US invasion. He and his Iraqi friends are all grateful for the US presense in Iraq, and consider the spoils of war as a necessary evil.

I tend to be less supportive of the US occupation in Iraq. However, it is hard for me to argue with actual Iraqi's who experienced Iraq prior to occupation, and during occupation.
 
Thats great, but serving for an Army that lied, invaded, and has commited various humanitarian attrocities...i am not quite sure then if its the right choice.

For example: I would not mind joining Canadian Army, cuz we do peacekeeping instead of invading and claiming innocent lifes.

To prove Gratitude, one may do it in another fashion rather than joining army. Such as helping the poor, elderly, educating illiterate people, basically helping communities.

You are so right. Helping the poor, elderly, etc., is the right and proper road to take. I agree so very much.
The war is not fighting for your freedom, it is fighting for the evil policies.
Today, President Bush said, "The only way to have peace, is to have tyranny." This was broadcast at the News Conference. The sick mind has come to roost. Time to take care of each other....:hiding:
 
Army should serve the country or serve an idiot president?:rollseyes


If you're in the US military, it is just your duty to serve, regardless of your convictions. Being that the president is the commander in chief, you have to serve him, regardless of if it is in your countries best interest.