My mother won't stop doing taweezes

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No, I'm not. I may have been born there but t hat is not where I grew up. I said I could be considered one of them to our scholarly bro here because I believe they maybe the most closest to the Quran and Sunnah from all the bidah Muslims on that continent
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but mentality isn't changed
Hedidn't say if you write quran only then it's halal otherwise it's haram. Read again what he said and tell me if you think scholars' words are above his?
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So want specific dalai from hadith.. Yes, there is No specific dalil which differentiate between halal or haram taweez...... Brother, concerning all issues specific dalil isn't found. E.g. We've no specific dalil that the ahadith you've quoted are sahih.
 
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Bro, don't care where you get it from or who said it. Are you going to stick to your barelvi people or to the Prophet?Why are you not answering my questions?
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So the see the link and make comments on it instead showing yourself a small enthusiastic kid
 
[MENTION=31950]Scimitar[/MENTION] : This is not proper to attribute stupidity to scholars and those who trusted them., but those fake scholars who have changed it into a profession and cheating the people is disgusting. They are selling and buying the ayat of Quran for money.
 
When you're inflicted with any disease, you go to doctor but RasulAllah s.a.w never went to any doctor.


Does the doctor or his medicine cures you ? if you think so, you committed SHIRK as neither he nor his medicine cures but Allah swt.

Then why you conclude that taweez cures people. It can't unless Allah swt wills.

How you dare to conclude that the hadith you quote the salaf were unable to understand and allowed taweez against the teachings of Quran and sunnah...?

Show me the names of imams, muhaddisin and salaf who declared all type of taweez as haram.

Don't quote the fatwas of salafi scholars.
 
We shouldn't go beyond proper limit in judging the controversial issues. We may violate the the hudood of shariah.
 
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azc said:
@Scimitar : This is not proper to attribute stupidity to scholars and those who trusted them., but those fake scholars who have changed it into a profession and cheating the people is disgusting. They are selling and buying the ayat of Quran for money.
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Bro, I was attributing stupidity to the both of you - not the scholars :)

your arguments were circular - it wouldn't matter who you quoted, ibn this or ibn that - the fact is you are mincing their intentions with circular reasoning.

I pointed out to you and Aaj, the flaw in your discussion, and even gave you a logical premise to follow which ends the discussion.

Buuuuuut - you just want to argue.

So argue.

lol

azc said:
We shouldn't go beyond proper limit in judging the controversial issues. We may violate the the hudood of shariah.
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You already violated the pious predecessors intentions. Now you have an attack of conscious? Rich.

In response to your post directed at Aaj, you wrote this:

azc said:
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Don't quote the fatwas of salafi scholars.
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While you quote the brelvis?

Hypocrite much bro?

Scimi
 
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[MENTION=31950]Scimitar[/MENTION] : My logic is simple that the ahadith which have been quoted were definitely in cognizance of imams whose names I mentioned and of others in given link allowed quranic taweez. I mentioned the link being barelvi because indecent title is used for sh ibn taimiyya.
 
I know that but it's not helping either of your cases


And you've not realised the simple truth

So I'll just quietly bow out because this really is pathetic

Salaam

Scimi
 
azc said:
but mentality isn't changed
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I never had that mentality to begin with but sadly it seems you have plenty of it.

So want specific dalai from hadith.. Yes, there is No specific dalil which differentiate between halal or haram taweez...... Brother, concerning all issues specific dalil isn't found. E.g. We've no specific dalil that the ahadith you've quoted are sahih.
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The prophet :saws1: stated what i quoted to you. Those are his words. And you are arguing against them with your baralvi scholars. Are any fatwas or scholars above the prophet ? You are trying to win a loosing argument.

Here, I made a thread for you to clear the matters. But if you still want to follow your ways then so be it.

https://www.islamicboard.com/aqeedah/134344394-taweez-amulets-light-quran-sunnah.html#post2948722

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I pointed out to you and Aaj, the flaw in your discussion, and even gave you a logical premise to follow which ends the discussion.
Scimi
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You logic didn't make much sense. My 'flawed' discussion has more logic to it lol. Anyways, i'm not interested in lengthy discussions either. I just wanted him to realize that when there is a clear hadith available then why is he blind following scholars and thinking their opinions area above the words of the Prophet :saws1: . Sadly, he is unable to break free of his upbringing cultural religiousness and follow those fatwas that support his cultural habits. No scholar is infallible.

I wanted him to realize this fact before posting a thread on taweez. But seems he failed to realize it, oh well.
 
The whole subject of taweez is controversy - fitan - and people who engage in this sort of discussion with no knowledge are idiots.

I'm actually doing rukya training and have been for a while.

Guess what? You make no sense when you quote ibn ibn blah and brelvi blah out of their intended contexts.

And as for rukya shariah? No taweez bro. None.

So whoever believes in an amulet has disbelieved in Allah and given the Asma was sifat of Allah to a manmade thing.

I'm surprised you didn't realise that lol.

We do not make taweez in rukya shariah - we destroy them - all of them.

Scimi
 

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