[GuestFellow]

Investigation under way after footage surfaces of alleged killing of unarmed man by five Karachi soldiers.

This makes me sick and furious. Those rangers are disgusting...

Chairman of the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan, Zohra Yusuf, said the country had descended into a "trigger-happy society where shoot-to-kill has become routine practice for the law enforcement agencies".

These barbaric soldiers and rangers ought to be shot and left to rot. Bunch of uncontrolled savage beasts.

I cannot begin to imagine the pain the victim's family is going through...

 

[Woodrow]

Sometime, in fact too often, military and law enforcement people use excess force.

 

[Ğħαrєєвαħ]

Inna lillaahi wa inna ilaayhi raji'oon

this is soo sad , and all else happening in the world with those innocent civillians..
They are cowards, they have power and use it and do no justice to anyone..

Those who show no mercy will not be shown mercy! Not to forget his justice remains with the most mercyful..

 

[Haya emaan]

Inna lillaahi wa inna ilaayhi raji'oon

this news is really very disturbing
i cant watch that video i dont have heart to do that..

killing innocent people has become just like killing ants and insects today

 

[GuestFellow]

^ Salaam,

Best not to watch the video. It is very upsetting. I can't believe no one helped him. I felt helpless watching him suffer.

 

[marwen]

just saw it on euronews. I'm really shocked ! May Allah give shahada to this killed brother.
I don't know what to say. I saw videos about syrian soldiers yesterday, and I mean what's wrong with many people these days ? Some regimes are going crazy and I think these "faux pas" made by their agents are signs of the end of these regimes of oppression.

 

[GuestFellow]

I mean what's wrong with many people these days ?

I have no idea. I read an article about a 13 Syrian boy who was found dead, medical experts claim he was tortured to death.

What baffles me is that the people responsible for these crimes are Muslims. Don't they understand that killing innocent civilians is against Islam? It is distressing to see Muslims kill other Muslims.

I'm still having a difficult time forgetting about this poor guy being shot down.

 

[ardianto]

Sometime, in fact too often, military and law enforcement people use excess force.

........ and extra judicial, like in this case.

It's started when someone stole something from a police family. Actually this is an ordinary crime and this is under police investigator authority, not under paramilitary police authority. But we have seen, Pakistan Ranger arrested and kill him.

I guess, the stealing case victim -police family- did not report it officially to police investigator, but request a Pakistan Ranger commander to "give a lesson" to that accused person.

I don't know how is in America, but in Indonesia, case like this sometime or often happened, at least during Soeharto era. Someone made a trouble to military family. The victim did not report it to police, but requested a military commander to "give a lesson" to that accused person.

 

[tigerkhan]

one request which i am mentioning time by time to all members, PLEASE dont not blv media esp news about pakistan...
some one told me that this boy was a taget killer of MQM...even if so it was not justified but i mean there are much more behind the screen.

 

[yas2010]

May Allah(swt) grant mercy on this poor man.

We must remember that one day we will all be asked to account for our actions in the court of Allah(swt) who is the All knowing and the MOST merciful. The day of Qiyamah when an 'atom of good' will be accounted for and an 'atom of bad'. May Allah(swt) guide us all.

JazakAllah Khair/ Peace

 

[Ansariyah]

He begged them to take him to a hospital they just watched as he died. May Allah destroy these savages, and grant the brotha martyrdom ameen.

 

[waji]

What happened was totally wrong.
I think this is a kind of problem that is arising with Pakistani Armed Forces.
They are getting tired of long and hard duties in the Field.

But on the other hand no body praises those who gave their life for others
like Yesterday a Guard of the Bank in Islamabad got Shahadat by stopping a suicide bomber getting in the Bank
Only Two people died (One was suicide Bomber and other was Guard) and few where injured.

 

[GuestFellow]

Seven men, six of them soldiers, have appeared in a Pakistani anti-terrorism court in connection with the killing of an

^ UPDATE

 

[Endymion]

Seven men, six of them soldiers, have appeared in a Pakistani anti-terrorism court in connection with the killing of an

^ UPDATE

Guest Fellow,do you have any idea you are not helping the case,instead,you are making it more difficult for people to understand what exactly going on in Pakistan.The video people keep on posting here and there was an edited version.The real case is that the boy was a dacoit,snatching mobiles from people.I am not saying this gave the rangers "Licence to kill" but it was an individual act of some people,not the whole Military forces and not all the people of Pakistan are like that but posting such individual acts here and there made people start on the whole nation.I request you to wait for the real story to come out.Real story might change your views about the boy somehow but till that time come,things like that will hurt the image of whole country badly.
Remember these are individual acts,can be happen any where and good and bad people found every where on Earth.One should be careful about discussing such issues in Public forums coz it involves the whole Nation.

 

[GuestFellow]

Guest Fellow,do you have any idea you are not helping the case,instead,you are making it more difficult for people to understand what exactly going on in Pakistan.

Then you can start explaining. Make it easier for us to understand what is going on in Pakistan. How have I made it difficult for people to understand what is exactly going on in Pakistan?

The video people keep on posting here and there was an edited version.

How? Please, present evidence for this too.

The real case is that the boy was a dacoit,snatching mobiles from people.

Do you have evidence for this?

I am not saying this gave the rangers "Licence to kill" but it was an individual act of some people,not the whole Military forces and not all the people of Pakistan are like that but posting such individual acts here and there made people start on the whole
nation.

I never said these rangers represented entire military forces. From my understanding, these rangers are part of the Paramilitary forces of Pakistan.

I'm well aware not all people of Pakistan are like that. My family has come from Pakistan and I have visited Pakistan as well.

I don't understand what the part that I put in bold. Please elaborate.

I request you to wait for the real story to come out. Real story might change your views about the boy somehow but till that time come,

I'm open to hearing new stories. For now I will continue to post updates.

things like that will hurt the image of whole country badly.

You have those rangers to blame for the country's tarnished image...however, the country's image should not be Pakistan's main objective. The Pakistani government should tackle poverty and corruption. Besides, Pakistan reputation has already been tarnished by the western media.

Remember these are individual acts,can be happen any where and good and bad people found every where on Earth.One should be careful about discussing such issues in Public forums coz it involves the whole Nation.

I'm well aware these are individual acts and can happen anywhere. In Britain, the police forces have used excessive force against protesters too at times.

 

[Ramadhan]

I agree that this kind of brutality can happen anywhere. Anyone still remember those cops in NY and LA who were caught on video brutalizing people they think were criminals? And we know from the stories that the basis of those police brutality was racism.

In Indonesia too, there were many occurrences where thieves who were caught red handed were being brutalized (although no gun or death involved) instead of being handed over to the police for detaining. However, alhamdulillah, these kinds of things seem to happen less and less along with improving education if not perception of justice.
In my opinion, this kind of cases (where people taking justice in their own hand) is a symptom of society who don't trust the judicial system to be be able to serve justice. And it also a symptom of the pent up frustration over institutionalized injustice and/or unfairness. I am not saying that this is what is happening in Pakistan, but I am basing this with situation in Indonesia.

Also, from the story, those six people who brutalized the man are from paramilitary, who normally do not receive proper training on how to handle criminals.

 

[Ramadhan]

As far as I know, paramilitary are normally used by the military or people in power to do the dirty work, so they are normally conditioned to flout human rights or even human lives in their operations.

 

[Ansariyah]

Guest Fellow,do you have any idea you are not helping the case,instead,you are making it more difficult for people to understand what exactly going on in Pakistan.The video people keep on posting here and there was an edited version.The real case is that the boy was a dacoit,snatching mobiles from people.I am not saying this gave the rangers "Licence to kill" but it was an individual act of some people,not the whole Military forces and not all the people of Pakistan are like that but posting such individual acts here and there made people start on the whole nation.I request you to wait for the real story to come out.Real story might change your views about the boy somehow but till that time come,things like that will hurt the image of whole country badly.
Remember these are individual acts,can be happen any where and good and bad people found every where on Earth.One should be careful about discussing such issues in Public forums coz it involves the whole Nation.

May Allah destroy all those rangers, all of the ones who were involved. Ameen.

I can't believe that you are trying to make those rangers look like they have done a noble deed and that you are going so far to accuse the innocent dead boy without proof.

We don't give a daym about any countries Image, we care about a Muslim soul that was butchered. Wheres your heart?

May Allah grant that boy Jannah, and expose, humiliate those who feast on the weak ameen.

 

[ardianto]

As far as I know, paramilitary are normally used by the military or people in power to do the dirty work, so they are normally conditioned to flout human rights or even human lives in their operations.

Pakistan Ranger is not civilian paramilitary like Aitarak, but paramilitary police like Indonesian Brimob or Philippine Constabulary.

 

[Ramadhan]

Pakistan Ranger is not civilian paramilitary like Aitarak, but paramilitary police like Indonesian Brimob or Philippine Constabulary.

Ah I didn't know this. When I heard paramilitary, my mind went straight to "pemuda pancasila", which is just a group of thugs.