People demand respect for Islam

I know for a fact, that here in Belfast, you know with the troblez an all, that the people go out and riot and fight etc, BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO, there are some original hard core people that are out to defend their estate and culture and all the rest, and have the real values at heart, but some are just out to be a nuisnace and hurt other people....Respect is thrown clean out the winda when it comez to people having idol time on their handz or feel they are up for a fight!!! In termz of discussion, people are so close minded and their prejudices wont even let the other person get a word in edgewayz coz their mind is shut....i used to be like that, before I became Muslim, I just thought, it was a crazy religion like where they worship animalz or do funky sining things, and then I grew up and found it was rather much the opposite, when pepople hear religionz in other languagez and see funni people practicin it, they are like...weirdoz, but if they got to know the people, it would be a different story!!! AKKKKKKKKKKKKK lol!!!boring!!!
 
well said zoreena... you can print a thousand pamphlet make wonderful state of the art DVD's to explain what islam is.... but nothing quite like personal contact to teach another of Isalm........traveling, meeting with people is the biggest killer of prejudice... I believe it was mark twain who said that?
 
[029:046] And dispute ye not with the People of the Book, except with means better...

Something to think about for all Muslims here.
 
F.Y. said:
^I'm sorry, but if I dont think it will be of any benefit to join a heated discussion - I wont join it. It is better to say a good word, otherwise keep silent. I think I would rather remain silent - I'd rather not insult anyone.

Peace
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Salaa,

May i ask,if you see a son scolding the mother in a horrednous way,do you walk away or raise up your voice in rpotest and aid for the mother?

will not show your knowledge and compassion and your insight into it?

Or if there is any heated discussion ,you will just remian silent then forever no one will learn anything nor will bridges be build.


Can we unsderstand wihout feeling and passion?
Should we suppress it just to keep civility while the distrust become deeper?
 
of course not but we shouldn't engage in wrangle either... we should state why and why not in logical sequence... if people are bigoted or one track minded then it will not make a bit of difference whatsoever what you write or don't write... in fact it seems they derive fuel out of sensing your dismay with what is going on... prophet mohammed (PBUH) said khatibo inas 3la 3iqolohim... which means you should engage a person to their level of understanding... if your field of expertise is astro-physics the way you engage with your colleague is different from the way you engage your parents or your children or some random person you meet in a cafe.... I don't feel feel passion about any other religion the way I feel about Islam but I will not give another a portal to come insult my religion by insulting theirs
peace
 
Zulkiflim said:
Salaa,

May i ask,if you see a son scolding the mother in a horrednous way,do you walk away or raise up your voice in rpotest and aid for the mother?

will not show your knowledge and compassion and your insight into it?

Or if there is any heated discussion ,you will just remian silent then forever no one will learn anything nor will bridges be build.


Can we unsderstand wihout feeling and passion?
Should we suppress it just to keep civility while the distrust become deeper?
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If I saw a son scolding a mother....hmmm. I would keep quiet. Most probably, I dont know the full story why their is an argument. Maybe he wants to pray his salah at the mosque and she wont let him? Hmmm. He obviously shouldnt speak like that to his mother - but I would not speak up for anyone. I would try to neutralise and calm the situation first. Then you listen to both sides of the story with an objective mind. Taking sides between mum and son - that would put you in a very difficult situation wouldnt it? I think it would be best to listen to both sides, give advice to BOTH sides, so it's all fair.

I can see what you are saying - discussion build bridges. But it depends on who is speaking and how. If someone is saying, 'You ******** ***** %#$%#$^ - you all are so stupid and dont know how idiotic you sound and your religion is a load of %^$% %$^%$^%$." I wouldnt participate in that - unless the person calmed down. But if someone is asking questions, genuinely wanting answers, being respectful, choosing their words carefully, being objective and fair - then i love answering. Most of the debates on here are full of sarcasm and insults. I boils down to respect, again. Not respecting for the sake of respecting, but truly having respect and consideration for other peoples views, whilst still maintaining (respectfully and intelligently) your views.

That is all. I have joined discussions in the past, dont join some because someone already has stated my point of view and i dont see why i should regurgitate everything someone has already said.

Peace to you dear brother. I hope you understand what im trying to say.
 
The main problem I see with this issue is that some members seem to feel the need to find a way to discredit Christianity, connect it with paganism, etc. This isn't the way to an educational dialogue, it is intended to make themselves feel more secure in their own faith by casting stones at another faith. How can a thread title called "Christianity and its pagan roots" be considered an attempt at an educational dialogue? It obviously isn't. That is my main issue.
 
duskiness said:
I think ManchesterFolk is going through something that many nonMuslims here know. Check threads like "Glo speak up" or "Proof that the Bible is ‘Corrupted’ " (where i got quite emotional). It's in the end Muslim board, presenting Muslim view. Sometime

it's hard for us to get used to fact that some things can be said about our faith, when Islam is much more "protected" here.
But it is a Islamic board and we are here because we want to and not because we are forced to.
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Im sorry you feel that way Dusk. But you can rely on me if you need back up when it comes to defending belief in God and Jesus(AS) :okay:
 
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