Political Science in Islam

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Assalamu alaykum.

Who can show me the real islamic state in the world? What is the place of Islam in politics?
 
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ur topic is too hard to answer. i don't see any REAL ISLAMIC STATE in the world.
Islam is complete code of life. All political science is in the sunnah. See the biography of Prophet (Saw) as a leader of state u will come to know the facts u r lookin for.
 
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Islam isnt politics. So there is no such thing as "islamic political science". There is only principles, that there is an amir/leader/khalifa who guides the muslims states in one unitive body. Thats all there is to it as far as im aware.
 
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Islam isnt politics. So there is no such thing as "islamic political science". There is only principles, that there is an amir/leader/khalifa who guides the muslims states in one unitive body. Thats all there is to it as far as im aware.
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Your answer is arguabe. I think it will not be true if we say that there is no islamic political science.

Religion is life. Religion includes all aspects of life. The ruling and governing of the state are also the issues of Islam. Qur'an teaches how to live in life and how to govern people.

But the problem is that today we can not find any islamic country who follows strictly the rules of Quran. What is its reason?
 
Abdugafur said:
Your answer is arguabe. I think it will not be true if we say that there is no islamic political science.

Religion is life. Religion includes all aspects of life. The ruling and governing of the state are also the issues of Islam. Qur'an teaches how to live in life and how to govern people.

But the problem is that today we can not find any islamic country who follows strictly the rules of Quran. What is its reason?
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I'm not sure if there is a country that "strictly follows" the rules of the Qu'ran. I would only answer that question completely when I get the opportunity to travel to a Muslim country. I think Western influence has a lot to do with it. Let me give Central Asia for example. That section of the world was a place where Islam flourished hundres of years ago (Bukhari was from Uzbekistan). And now we look at that part of the world during and after the Soviet Union collapsed and now what do we see? The complete opposite of when Muhammad Al-Bukhari was alive, that's for sure. Let's look at the Balkins-they were under the Ottoman Turks and everyone was living in harmony. After the collapse of the Ottoman Empire, people were at each others throats.

We meet some Muslims nowadays who say they want to become more "European" or "American". I think one of the most ESSENTIAL things in teaching Muslims is the rights we have under Shariar law instead of saying "Oh well we live in the modern world we do not have to go by Shariar law, we live in a Democratic country". Remember how the pagan Arabs used to live? In reality I think we mind rewind to that time period if we do not educate ourselves of the rights of our women, children and so on.

Islam in politics? Well, I agree. It tells us how to govern people justly and I'm sure we can list successful Islamic Empires in history where people of all relgions and different ethnic backgrounds lived side by side in peace. When I was Roman Catholic, I wanted to live in a Muslim country because at least there I was guaranteed my religious rights and even my rights in terms of gender.
 
Assalamu alaykum, sister Pinkie.

I agree with you in some aspects. Today we hardly find any muslim country which lives under the doctrine of Qur'an. I am afraid we may not build such an islamic society untill the emergence of Mahdi alayhissalam. Because there is a hadith of our beloved prophet Muhammad (SAW) which says that ater 30 years from the death of the prophet there would be no caliphate, there would be only maliks.

This is a graet warning. It also teaches that although we try strictly to build true caliphate we can not build according to the meaning of that hadith. But what should we do? How should muslims live in such a modern society which is full of dangers to true muslim?! That is a problem.

(Adashmasam, siz O'zbekistondansiz shekilli?:brother: )
 
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Assalamu alaykum, sister Pinkie.

I agree with you in some aspects. Today we hardly find any muslim country which lives under the doctrine of Qur'an. I am afraid we may not build such an islamic society untill the emergence of Mahdi alayhissalam. Because there is a hadith of our beloved prophet Muhammad (SAW) which says that ater 30 years from the death of the prophet there would be no caliphate, there would be only maliks.

This is a graet warning. It also teaches that although we try strictly to build true caliphate we can not build according to the meaning of that hadith. But what should we do? How should muslims live in such a modern society which is full of dangers to true muslim?! That is a problem.

(Adashmasam, siz O'zbekistondansiz shekilli?:brother: )
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Assolomu Alaykum!

Yes you are correct. When Mahdi (alayhis salam) comes, that is when everything will be right. There are people who live in modern society still holding on to the Qu'ran and Sunnah, I give them a lot of credit. I was born and raised in the U.S and I give props to parents who try their hardest to teach their children about Islam. Inshallah, our other brothers and sisters abroad are also having a strong head on their shoulders.

I am considering the Political Science field but I was wondering...how would I use that for Islam....or more like...issues revolving around places like East Turkistan, Palestine, Chechnya? Like for example-some people become doctors because they want to help those back in their countries etc.

(No, I'm not from Özbekistan but good guess. I would love to learn the language though. Hayr :sister:)
 
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Assolomu Alaykum!

Yes you are correct. When Mahdi (alayhis salam) comes, that is when everything will be right. There are people who live in modern society still holding on to the Qu'ran and Sunnah, I give them a lot of credit. I was born and raised in the U.S and I give props to parents who try their hardest to teach their children about Islam. Inshallah, our other brothers and sisters abroad are also having a strong head on their shoulders.

I am considering the Political Science field but I was wondering...how would I use that for Islam....or more like...issues revolving around places like East Turkistan, Palestine, Chechnya? Like for example-some people become doctors because they want to help those back in their countries etc.

(No, I'm not from Özbekistan but good guess. I would love to learn the language though. Hayr :sister:)
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Wa alaykum assalom. I also think very much about the place and use of political science in Islam since I am doing my bachelor's degree in Political science in Delhi University. I think we should try to build the true islamic society with our best attempts. But it is not easy and we can not buld it unless we change the society itself. Our prophet Muhammad (SAW) did not declare the islamic society in a day when he began to take relevations from Allah. At first, he taught people what is islam and islamic life. When people were ready to live in such a society then he built an islamic state in Madina sity.

We may look at the case of hamr (alcohol). There are three verses in Quran regarding alcoholic drinks. In the first two verses the alcohol was not probihited, just they prepared people to realize the evils of that drink. With the coming of the third verse the alcohol was completely prohibited.

Today also, most of people, even muslims do not know the original message of Islam. They need to be taught the true meanings of Islam. Therefore today, at first, we should teach them how to live an islamic life, then we may begin to build a caliphate. Otherwise, there may happen misunderstandings which are being a great enemy of Islam nowadays.

(I am from Uzbekistan. What made me to ask you about Uzbekistan is that you have the picture of Uzbek girls in your avatar. Do you have any relationship with Uzbekistan or Uzbek people?:brother: )
 
Bro, do you know which sura where you read about hamr?? I was just wondering.

And offtopic: Yakshimisiz? Yeah, I have some Uzbek friends. The qizlari in my avatar are Uygur but good guess!! :statisfie..if you have msn you can add me: [email protected]. Hayr:thankyou:
 
Assalamu alaykum.
Really, I did a good guess.:statisfie Because both uygurs and uzbeks have almost the same culture. Inshaallah, I send you the verses about hamr in Qur'an. Right now I can not remember them.:?
 
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every one understands ur question i think but there is not even one real islamic state in the world
 
But we should know the fact that the real islamic state was built in history (asri saodat) and also will be built in future, inshaallah
 
Salam Alaikam

The best Islamic state within the past few hundred years was the Taliban in my opinion. They executed Islam so beautifully and as i lived under their rule they were very very Kind people they just wanted to follow Islam.
 
Assalamu alaykum.

Excuse me, brother. I do not think tolibans as the good muslims. They were fanatics and took many rules of Islam wrongly. They made many muslims to go to wrong way in Islam.
 
Salam Alaikam

Well excuse me wheres your proof? Did you live under them Or are you one of those people that watch CNN and think you know the taliban?

What rules of Islam did they take wrongly? What Muslims did they make go wrong way in Islam?
 
mahdisoldier19
Did you mention you lived under the Taliban? If so, I am wondering what did you like about it?
 

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