Proof God does not exist:

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A man shouting that God would keep him safe was mauled to death by a lion in a Kiev, Ukraine, zoo after he crept into the animal's enclosure.

"The man shouted, 'God will save me, if he exists,' lowered himself by a rope into the enclosure, took his shoes off and went up to the lions,"
the official said. "A lioness went straight for him, knocked him down and severed his carotid artery."

Source:http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=4e797f04-15d0-4958-85b9-3811fb4fd40d

Next I'll prove empirically that if I sever my jugular vein I will die. :hiding:
 
and how exactly does that proove god doesnt exist?

thats like me saying if god exists ill get a trillion pound check delivered to my door in the next five seconds. im sorry but thats just sheer stupidity.
 
A man shouting that God would keep him safe was mauled to death by a lion in a Kiev, Ukraine, zoo after he crept into the animal's enclosure.

"The man shouted, 'God will save me, if he exists,' lowered himself by a rope into the enclosure, took his shoes off and went up to the lions,"
the official said. "A lioness went straight for him, knocked him down and severed his carotid artery."

Source:http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=4e797f04-15d0-4958-85b9-3811fb4fd40d

Next I'll prove empirically that if I sever my jugular vein I will die. :hiding:

how.......ridiculous
 
This guy was probably suicidal in the first place.
 
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Peace be upon You

Can you take a challenge, if yes read the transalation of the Qur 'an and see if u can challenge it.

Honestly and Sincerely

Also Please visit harunyahya.com
 
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Guess it was his time to go remember when it's time to die it's time.
 
Hahaahahahaha!!! ;D :giggling: Is that actually supposed to be an excuse to believe that God doesn't exist? If so how......?
 
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A man shouting that God would keep him safe was mauled to death by a lion in a Kiev, Ukraine, zoo after he crept into the animal's enclosure.

"The man shouted, 'God will save me, if he exists,' lowered himself by a rope into the enclosure, took his shoes off and went up to the lions,"
the official said. "A lioness went straight for him, knocked him down and severed his carotid artery."

Source:http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=4e797f04-15d0-4958-85b9-3811fb4fd40d

Next I'll prove empirically that if I sever my jugular vein I will die. :hiding:
Hahaha, freakin idiot.(that wasn't directed at root btw)
 
and how exactly does that proove god doesnt exist?

thats like me saying if god exists ill get a trillion pound check delivered to my door in the next five seconds. im sorry but thats just sheer stupidity.
Too true. It's an excuse for the ignorant.
 
How does a person prove a negative? If a person ever comes up with a means of proving any statement as false, they will be the first person that has done so. In order to prove a statement false, it would be necessary to counter every arguement that it may be true.

Based on the fact that every arguement, that can be used to say a statement is true, needs to be refuted. The fact that a person can not prove a statement to be true does not prove the statement is false. For example a person believes 2 plus 2 is 4. He does not know how to prove 2 plus 2 is 4, that does not make the statement false.

Now a person can say that 2 plus 6 is 4. The fact that another person can show that 2 plus 2 is 4 only proves that 2 plus 2 is 4, it does not prove the statement 2 plus 6 equals 4 is false. There is no way that it can be proven that 2 plus 6 does not also equal 4. Not all reasons as to why it can be true can be addressed.

That is why the burdan of proof is always on the person making the statement. If I say 2 plus 6 equals 4, I must prove that is true. It can not be proven it is false.

This is one reason why a deliberate lie is so destructive. Something can be said about a person and the person can never prove it is a lie. Although the person telling the lie can not prove it as being true. The damage is done and can not be undone.

If I were to say somebody has purple hair that person can not prove they do not have purple hair. I can say that they have purple hair, but they have come up with the perfect way to conceal it.

Religous debates are so complex because most people fall into the trap of trying to prove the other person's statement is false. They then get sidetracked and fail to prove that their own statements are true.

Emotionaly nearly all of us have inner feelings that some statements are obviously false. However, we have to understand that we do not have any measurable empirical prove to say anything is false. We can only give reasons and proof why we believe something else is true.

When we have reason to believe something is true. We have to have the srength to stick with our convictions and always seek further evidence of the truth.


This does not mean we should not believe something is a falsehood. It means we must seek to counter false claims with verifiable alternatives to the falsehood. Like if somebody were to say I have purple hair. I do not need to prove that I do not have purple hair. I need only to show proof that I am nearly bald and that the remaining hairs are white.

In a religious debate. If someone makes a statement we believe is false. We do not need to attempt to disprove their statement. We need to show why what we believe is true. Then it is up to the person making the statement to consider if our proof is more plausable then their statement.
 
My post was a litlle "Tongue in cheek", I think some have not realised....... Though in essence I am merely making a point but not literally.

:thankyou:
 
My post was a litlle "Tongue in cheek", I think some have not realised....... Though in essence I am merely making a point but not literally.

:thankyou:

Asalaamu Alaikum,

I believe I see what your point is. If I am correct you did a service to all of us, by starting this thread.

I believe most of us are guilty of making similar type statements as refutals to other peoples arguements. Your topic was a good method of pointing out how rediculous we can sound and at the same time believe we are making perfectly clear logical statement. Shukrahn for the thread.





Does this mean you are not going to sever your jugular vein to prove your original statement? (Sorry, I couldn't resist. My odd sense of humor kicked in)
 
Asalaamu Alaikum,

I believe I see what your point is. If I am correct you did a service to all of us, by starting this thread.

I believe most of us are guilty of making similar type statements as refutals to other peoples arguements. Your topic was a good method of pointing out how rediculous we can sound and at the same time believe we are making perfectly clear logical statement. Shukrahn for the thread.
I agree. As fun as these stories are, they don't really conclusively prove God's existence either way. I prefer to just let people believe what they will.

Does this mean you are not going to sever your jugular vein to prove your original statement? (Sorry, I couldn't resist. My odd sense of humor kicked in)
Just change that word to 'justice', and you could be me!

:p
 
I have never heard of life being created from non-living phenomenon. Mathematically, its impossible. There is a higher being.
 
aamirsaab, of course there is no proof either way. Only people that don't know what proof is think they can to either.
 
aamirsaab said:
Just as you cannot disprove God.

Go back to ancient times:

Gork and Hork the cavemen are out hunting:

Gork: "The flowers are so nice there must be a god"

Hork: "What's a god?:? "

Gork: "You can't prove there is no god"
 
People once believed the world was flat. Now it has been proven that the world is round. It is the burden of atheists to refute a generally accepted idea. Unless they can do that, I feel all rambling is invalid.
 
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