I agree, it is no use discussing when a person has already made up their mind about it...i'd just have one more thing to say, although I'm not specifically addressing it to one person, just a point of view, maybe someone might agree with it.
If anyone thinks that Allah (swt) is the Most kindest of all , and that, His kindness and mercy extends the perception of Human minds, Do some humans feel/think , that by feeling sympathetic towards homosexuality, the sympathy and kindness they feel inside their hearts surpasses that of the Creator? just a simple question.
If they feel that way then I don't really think they've attempted to understand what God is all about. If a person at any time feels that " I will be kinder to these people and I don't care if God is kind to them, might have more to do with feelings of disillusion than anything else, because God actually is kinder to his creations than anyone else, and although Islam does not condone slander/hurtful treatment making fun of them or calling them names, it does stress on calling a spade a spade, and it does stress on trying to atleast condemn in our hearts what is wrong and trying to make it right in the best manner possible.
It is a huge disillusionment for a man to think that he is capable of loving anything, anyone, more than the Creator loves his creation, and Allah swt Loves his creation 70 times more than our own mothers, Human love is conditional to likeness/appearance, attraction compatibility and choice, But Allah's love is the Only Love that is unconditional, and equal for all creation, it is the creation who choose who reject it, and it is they who choose to consider the Creator's love insignificant as compared to a person's love and make choices in life that are not only extremely un-natural, but baseless and based on grave error.
Reminds me of the discussion on another forum, where people were insisting that incest (astaghfirullah) should be legalized. If this is the moral picture of love, of a society, it would be no shock that they demand to make love to animals too in the near future, to honor their feelings of respect and love to them, because oh well animals can do everything and what we do, is out of pure love,so 'let this Love spread' : P Let immorality spread, cuz Immorality wont stop at homosexuality, It has to stoop lower, and I can bet there'd be scientists who'd soon come up with examples of human and animal love with supporting sick strawman, pretending to sound all educated and knowledgeable, more so than the creator.
If homosexuality was a biological truth, Allah swt would not only allow it, he would have no issue , No reason of severely condemning it.
If people think they have more mercy in their hearts and more knowledge in their grasp than the Creator, they are way too deluded with their sense of reality and humanity, and they should snap out of it soon.
I can prove it to you that human biology does not support homosexuality at any cost, at any given time, but people who don't understand the classification of species or haven't read biology are very easily duped by neo athiest scientists trying to support one lame sexual behavior or the other, I wont be shocked with their newer theories. But I understand that your issue could be deeper than biology, it could be related to kindness, compassion ,sympathy, freedom of choice and mercy.
And that concept can only be understood when one goes into the depth of understanding. Of corse on the face of it, it is an act that you understand as permissible because it doesn't bother you personally at all, but does not mean that people who are undergoing it are not disturbed and are pretty fine with it too.
Most homosexuals go through disturbed lives before they choose to tilt towards their own gender to look for approval, love and confirmation of their self, and most of them are missing the genuine love of their both parents and in most cases one parent. All the gay women that I have come across have had none or abusive/alcoholic control freak mothers that they didn't get along with, and longed for a motherly female companionship and felt attracted to any mature attractive polite woman who was nice to them, and they mistake that strong longing for motherly love as sexual love( thanks to their society and the indoctrination by their media who label same sex platonic attraction as compulsory sexual).
Same for boys, most homosexual boys have had very disturbing pasts, some even been sexually abused by a male member of the family, and they cannot get out of it from there on, the list of deficiencies in their lives is beyond HUGE. And don't question me on it, I'm in the health field, I get this everyday.
True that some of them are the nicest people around, but what is wrong is wrong and you are not helping them truly by letting them go the wrong way.( not you, just addressing anyone) If one wishes well for the homosexuals, the best they can do is by inviting them towards cure, healing and out of the satanic spell of fantasy. And by praying for them too.
I came across this report in US that almost 1 in 6 person is involved in incest, If people think homosexuality for the sake of love is fine, how do they support immorality if a father and daughter or a son and a mother are sexually involved? Most people were totally against it, the only people not against it, were homosexuals, because they feel all kinds of sexual relations are allowed because if you feel like it, you feel like it and its real. There is no sense of morality, shame or mercy in their hearts for little girls who get raped by their own fathers, and they project it in such a way that the daughters start accepting it too, since some weird group of people is supporting it too. I have no doubts that the neo scientists will prove it too that hey, its completely normal to do that, don't fret, go ahead!
In a nut shell, I do think that it is the extremely destructive social makeup and lifestyle of the western society that has deeply disturbed the minds of the young people, who doesn't know how many kids are abandoned or given up for adoption all over the west? Who doesn't know the rising number of alcoholic mothers giving birth to babies (with compromised health and deep pyschologic deficiencies) and dropping them at shelters for being unable to take care of them? Most of these kids have no clue how or why they end up this way, it just takes so much courage and patience to realize that they are born in a society , without any love, even thought the things most shoved in their faces is love, but of sexual nature.
They are taught that to express same sex admiration, you have to be physically involved in the relationship, inspite of the fact that they can just become good friends and control the physical urge if there is any(which is usually anxiety and a deep desire longing for stability/being loved).
They Take the indoctrination from there, and go on to fill their hollow by following vain deceptions, with temporary satisfactions. Ask any gay person, they are deeply mortified by their strong feelings and cant get enough of them, it is like an addiction for them, there is no sense of peace/stability in them even if they have it all that they want.
And lastly, if homosexuals had a sense of contentment with their relationships, a staggering number of them wouldn't be drug addicts, alcoholics with aggression and depression in their personalities and the highest ratio of suicide among any group of people. You can go check it out yourself. Their self image and self esteem is so low that they are mostly unable to face normal worries that other people come across. My friend who is psychiatric specialist, recently dealt with a gay who was unable to understand why his boyfriend wont respond to his calls, for only one day and he reacted to that by trying to commit suicide, seriously if anyone loves these people so much, please help them save themselves from their inner destruction and stop buying the happy facade that they face you with.
