[ahsan28]

Report: Chief Rabbi says move Gazans to a Palestine in Sinai


HAARETZ (Israel daily)
28/01/2008


Ashkenazi Chief Rabbi Yona Metzger has been quoted as calling for Gazans to be transferred to the Sinai Peninsula, to a Palestinian state whichj he said could be constructed for them in the desert.

In an interview in English with the British weekly The Jewish News, the chief rabbi also said that while peaceable Muslims should be allowed to pray in Jeruasalem mosques, they should recognize that Jerusalem belongs to the Jews. Muslims have Mecca and Medina, he was quoted as saying, adding that "you don't need a third place."

According to Metzger, the plan would be to "take all the poor people from Gaza to move them to a wonderful new modern country with trains buses cars, like in Arizona - we are now in a generation where you can take a desert and build a city. This will be a solution for the poor people - they will have a nice county, and we shall have our country and we shall live in peace."


Muslims 'don't need a third place

Metzger also called for Muslims to have the freedom to return to pray in mosques on condition that they do so peaceably: "We will welcome every Palestinian man who wants to pray in his mosque. Every Friday they can come, but with one condition, without violence. We have the same feeling about prayers, we want to give you respect but let us live and believe our land is the Holy Land and Jerusalem belongs to us. You have another place, Mecca and Medina, you don't need a third place."


http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/948907.html

 

[The_Prince]

you know what? i have an idea,,, how about we move all israelis into the sea????

it is now possible to build land and islands and even a country on the sea! just look at dubai, how many man made islands have they built recently? you have the palm trees, the WORLD, they even want to make the universe!

so lets move them all into the sea, and they can do the same as dubai, they are so smart as they always say, having the highest number of scientists or whatever, so it shouldnt be too hard for them.

 

[snakelegs]

for a chief rabbi this is actually progress. there was one who referred to the palestinians as "cockroaches" to be squashed.
prince - ;D

 

[The_Prince]

whats so funny is this ashkhanzi's have no connection to the land! they came from russia after being converted! theyre europeans with nooooooooooooo connection to the land!

go back to russia.

 

[Roasted Cashew]

you know what? i have an idea,,, how about we move all israelis into the sea????

it is now possible to build land and islands and even a country on the sea! just look at dubai, how many man made islands have they built recently? you have the palm trees, the WORLD, they even want to make the universe!

so lets move them all into the sea, and they can do the same as dubai, they are so smart as they always say, having the highest number of scientists or whatever, so it shouldnt be too hard for them.

I totally agree with you. I don't even mind if you all move them to where I live currently, Malaysia. The government is looking to increase the population of 28 million to 70 million in the next 50 years. Those Israelis will be a good boost

 

[Roasted Cashew]

for a chief rabbi this is actually progress. there was one who referred to the palestinians as "cockroaches" to be squashed.
prince - ;D

Good point. Very good point.

 

[ahsan28]

He is the same guy, who was under criminal investigation, a couple of months ago for abusing his appointment and authority :embarrass

 

[Woodrow]

whats so funny is this ashkhanzi's have no connection to the land! they came from russia after being converted! theyre europeans with nooooooooooooo connection to the land!

go back to russia.

I believe that has been the biggest problem that most Westerners don't under stand. The Majority of the Jews in Israel are not semitic, they have no physical blood connection with the Jews that lived in Peace with the Muslims until 1947. In fact many of the Semitic Jews are Palestinians and still live in Peace with their Muslim neighbors.

I do not see the conflict as being Jew vs Muslim it is more Zionist vs Palestinian

 

[ahsan28]

On the contrary, there are people with character and integrity, who have the courage to speak truth:-

For the cause, the settlements must go

By SHELDON SCHRETER
Jerusalem Post
Jan 29, 2008

Israelis seem to have lost their belief in the rightness of our cause, as various observers have recently noted with alarm. Whether you attribute this to ideological fatigue, the universal tendency to pursue personal and material goals over collective ones, or loss in the belief of God's promise of this Land to Abraham, there is real cause for concern.

I recently read David Shulman's Dark Hope, which is an eyewitness report on the abominations committed in the West Bank in the name of the Jewish people.

The settlements thus undermine both the external perception others have of us, and our own internal perception of the rightness of our cause. As such, in utter contradiction to the intentions of so many of their residents, settlements wind up weakening rather than strengthening us, and seriously endangering the existence of the one Jewish state we do have.

We must sober up, prioritize and consolidate before it is too late. We have to relinquish our profound internal split over Greater Israel in order to unite effectively in favor of pre-1967 Israel (plus minor, negotiated additions). Our shared belief in the rightness of our cause - without which we shall fall - cannot be rebuilt so long as we are occupying and dispossessing another people.

It will be tragic to leave the sites associated with our cherished collective memories. But it would be infinitely more tragic to risk Israel's disintegration by a refusal. The cost of the settlements is much, much too great to bear.


http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1201523787425&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull

 

[Trumble]

I totally agree with you. I don't even mind if you all move them to where I live currently, Malaysia. The government is looking to increase the population of 28 million to 70 million in the next 50 years.

What on earth for?!

 

[Roasted Cashew]

What on earth for?!

I didn't get your question. Would you like to further clarify?

 

[north_malaysian]

I totally agree with you. I don't even mind if you all move them to where I live currently, Malaysia. The government is looking to increase the population of 28 million to 70 million in the next 50 years. Those Israelis will be a good boost

If Malays could have lots of problems accepting 2 millions Indonesians who share the same religion, ancestry and religion in this country... do you think they would accept 6 millions Israelis who are 100% different?

Plus, our nationalist leaders are well-known to be anti-Semitic too...

Would the Israelis ready enough to be a minority in a country where the Malays are the ONLY "chosen people"?

And that 70,000,000 population in Malaysia campaign had become silent since 10 years ago..... maybe because Malaysians just cannot accept more immigrants.... remember, the government planned to kick out 200,000 immigrants this year...

 

[AvarAllahNoor]

It's a solution.

 

[Ebtisweetsam]

I didn't get your question. Would you like to further clarify?

Why on earth would U want them in ur country?
I dont think thats the solution... i rekon the solution is keep planting the trees mentioned in the Qu'ran (on their fake Islands in the middle of the sea), so they can be prepared to be caught from behind them.

 

[Amadeus85]

I believe that has been the biggest problem that most Westerners don't under stand. The Majority of the Jews in Israel are not semitic, they have no physical blood connection with the Jews that lived in Peace with the Muslims until 1947.

Judaism is based on faith in Yahve not on the same blood. So just like all muslims from all over the world(from Algeria to Indonesia) believe that Mecca and Medina belongs to them and only to them, so I think that also Jews from all over the world believe that Jerusalem and Kanaan belongs to them.

In fact many of the Semitic Jews are Palestinians and still live in Peace with their Muslim neighbors.

Not anymore. After 1947 hundreds of thousands of Jews had to run away from arabic countries.

I do not see the conflict as being Jew vs Muslim it is more Zionist vs Palestinian

I dont agree. Maybe Im not expert in judaism but i guess that Jews think that Jerusalem belongs to them as a Holy Land. So it is part of their faith, just like part of muslims' faith is that Mecca belongs to muslims.

 

[aadil77]

Judaism is based on faith in Yahve not on the same blood. So just like all muslims from all over the world(from Algeria to Indonesia) believe that Mecca and Medina belongs to them and only to them, so I think that also Jews from all over the world believe that Jerusalem and Kanaan belongs to them.



Not anymore. After 1947 hundreds of thousands of Jews had to run away from arabic countries.



I dont agree. Maybe Im not expert in judaism but i guess that Jews think that Jerusalem belongs to them as a Holy Land. So it is part of their faith, just like part of muslims' faith is that Mecca belongs to muslims.

WE beleive that God owns the whole of the earth and has made it for us to dwell in, so we can and should be able to go whereever we want freelly, worship whereever we want etc

Jews can't claim that Jeruslem is all theirs because it containe many of our prophets graves, Al aqsa used to be the first direction of prayer, dome of rock is where our Prophet muhammed left to go on the sacred night journey etc

 

[Amadeus85]

WE beleive that God owns the whole of the earth and has made it for us to dwell in, so we can and should be able to go whereever we want freelly, worship whereever we want etc

Tell me, can non muslims enter Mecca ?

Jews can't claim that Jeruslem is all theirs because it containe many of our prophets graves, Al aqsa used to be the first direction of prayer, dome of rock is where our Prophet muhammed left to go on the sacred night journey etc

It is your point of view as a muslim. I understand it and respect it. But you should also understand and respect the fact that Jews have their own belief and they will fight for it.Just like muslims fight for their belief. This is how it is when people read their holy texts as a direct word of God which may lead them to violence.

 

[AntiKarateKid]

What is the problem with holy books being the word of God, in my opinion it would be better off being the word of God than a continuously changed story by Humans. Hence all the abrogated religions today. If you do not set in in stone as the word of God then people are free to change it and that leads to more violence in my opinion when a person can write what they want.

 

[Fishman]

The Temple Mount is holy to Judaism, Christianity and Islam, so it is nonsense for Jews to claim it is all theirs. The city should belong to all three religions, rather than an Israel or a Palestine.

Gaza should be incorporated into Egypt, and Palestine and the Negev should be part of Jordan again (Palestinians are not really a seperate people, they are just Jordanians who are occupied by Israel). Or they should all be turned into one country, and be forced to play nice, on pain of having their heads all bashed together.

 

[AvarAllahNoor]

I agree with the right honorable friend Mr Fishyman.

Live in harmony ya silly lot!!