Science V Religion does it have to be this way

[Little_Lion]

Personal theory on the Big Bang: didn't happen. I DO think there are Little Bangs that are generated by supermassive black holes that in essence recreate the region of the universe around them. Why? Because that is what Allah intended.

I don't think there has to be any separation either. I know the very vast majority of Muslims would disagree with me, but I fully believe in evolution (though I think there is some big flaws in the way it is generally understood by most people). There is no scientific explanation for the "spark of life", consciousness, and everything else that comes with the start of life, and while I fully believe we should keep researching it, the anthropological evidence of "faith" - that we were created, believed by the vast majority of humans since recorded history and never definitively disproved - should be at least considered as part of the equation.

(And because I know people will jump down my throat, and demand an explanation of "how can you be a Muslim and accept evolution", I believe that Allah DID create us in His form, but that for His own reasons, it took us a while to get there, as did some of His other creations take time to take their current form, and some He decided weren't working out, like saurians. We didn't evolve "from monkeys"; we evolved from our own creature of His design into today's humans, monkeys from their own creature evolved into monkeys, and dinosaurs evolved into theme park rides and top-grossing feature films.)

 

[Insecured soul]

Science and Religion will be at odds so long as Religion continues to make claims about the physical world. Such claims can be investigated by science and Religion can stand in the way, so there will be conflict.

They are opposite in direction, science bottom up and religion top down, but they are also opposite in approach, science being investigation and religion being revelation. Religion is authority driven and science in method driven. They will often conflict.

Subhan allah for a muslim its just complete harmony, science is nothing but to understand how allah created everything and his attributes, there is complete universal order in the universe, everything happens for a reason but what are these so called atheist scientist trying to find in the universe anyway? they are no less than a 1400 year old illiterate and ignorant bedioun who denied the existence of allah.

And i can certainly understand science standing in the way of all other man made religions.

 

[LavaDog]

Re: Science Versus Religion – Why Does There Have To Be A Versus?

can anyone explain to me why the heck Two And A Half Men is America’s number one comedy?

lol I have wondered that for a while now. But I believe we have a better chance of understanding cold fusion or dark matter before we can answer that question.

 

[Verdetequiero]

Subhan allah for a muslim its just complete harmony, science is nothing but to understand how allah created everything and his attributes, there is complete universal order in the universe, everything happens for a reason but what are these so called atheist scientist trying to find in the universe anyway? they are no less than a 1400 year old illiterate and ignorant bedioun who denied the existence of allah.

And i can certainly understand science standing in the way of all other man made religions.

So what is your opinion if, given all known scientific knowledge, the information points away from an Islamic explanation for something, or if there is no scientific knowledge for an Islamic precept should a Muslim accept the scientific weight of evidence and claim that for all intents and purposes that precept can't be established or should they proclaim that such a precept exists even without evidence or even contravening evidence?

 

[siam]

So what is your opinion if, given all known scientific knowledge, the information points away from an Islamic explanation for something, or if there is no scientific knowledge for an Islamic precept should a Muslim accept the scientific weight of evidence and claim that for all intents and purposes that precept can't be established or should they proclaim that such a precept exists even without evidence or even contravening evidence?

I see no problems at all between science and Islam. All knowledge is from God it does not matter if it is religious knowledge or scientific knowledge---the source is God. If there are differences between the two---it springs from human misunderstandings.--that is, we have misunderstood science or religion.

Natural phenomenon are "signs" (ayah) that point to God. Science takes us part of the way---that is, it explains the wondrous workings of the natural phenomenon---religion takes us the rest of the way in showing us the power of God behind it. I think both types of knowledge work in harmony.

There is no god But God---Science takes care of the "there is no god" part---and Islam shows us the "but God" part. Science keeps us from worshipping the natural phenomenon---and Islam points us to the Divine power that controls the natural phenomenon.....