[Life_Is_Short]

(peace be upon you)

Today i saw a muslim lady begging on the street. She was in good health, (alhamduli'Allah) but she was begging. She did not speak english and so i could not ask her why she was begging.

Considering the fact you can easily work in this country and earn your living, should we give money to people like that?

Jazak'Allah Khair

 

[CosmicPathos]

(peace be upon you)

Today i saw a muslim lady begging on the street. She was in good health, (alhamduli'Allah) but she was begging. She did not speak english and so i could not ask her why she was begging.

Considering the fact you can easily work in this country and earn your living, should we give money to people like that?

Jazak'Allah Khair

I think I would have helped (if I had money) because I do not know why she cant work ... maybe shes homless or maybe gone bankrupt. ..i dont know

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

How do u distinguish a real one and a fake one? Cause trust me, there are plenty of fakers...I would still give it nonetheless due to my own niyah...

 

[S<Chowdhury]

(peace be upon you)


Considering the fact you can easily work in this country and earn your living, should we give money to people like that?

Jazak'Allah Khair

I'd disagree easy to work in London, sister go east london and there a thousands of international students begging for a job no matter the pay anything and they are still unable to find one. Sis this is not the case for some reason the british govt new immigration rule and examinations has led for international students from the 3rd world countries to get into the country easier.

Even with the right qualification, many british born people have trouble finding work in the current job market climate.

 

[S<Chowdhury]

But referring to the question i would of given her some money because from the fact she speaks little english so probably migrated from a 3rd world country looking for better opportunities, maybe a assylum seeker who knws but nonetheless i'd given some money

 

[Cabdullahi]

i get lots of people saying they need money for bus fare but i reply to them where is the bus stop i'll pay the driver so you can get on but they chicken out and do a runner the opposite way.

one day an african guy approached me and said can i use your phone i said to him '' no sir '' then he was a bit disappointed so i asked him where he was from he replied ''Zanzibar'' and then i said to myself in soliloquy 'i busted you!...you con man! you aint gonna use my phone whilst your from zanzibar money laundering , scams , premium rate number set up and call up :raging:!!''

all those things were running through my mind but wallahi i they guy could've needed my phone for genuine reasons like to call his wife....or friend?

 

[Life_Is_Short]

I'd disagree easy to work in London, sister go east london and there a thousands of international students begging for a job no matter the pay anything and they are still unable to find one. Sis this is not the case for some reason the british govt new immigration rule and examinations has led for international students from the 3rd world countries to get into the country easier.

Even with the right qualification, many british born people have trouble finding work in the current job market climate.

I happen to be looking for a job for my aunt (who does not speak english)on the same high street in east london today and many shops owned by Asians were happy to offer her a job. They did not require any qualifications.

 

[جوري]

what counts is your intention.. you sincerely want to help someone.
if she is needy then you'll have helped her insha'Allah
if she is conning you then her 7isab is with Allah swt and you'll still be rewarded for your good deed insha'Allah..

and Allah swt knows best

 

[S<Chowdhury]

I happen to be looking for a job for my aunt (who does not speak english)on the same high street in east london today and many shops owned by Asians were happy to offer her a job. They did not require any qualifications.

Hmmm its wat i've been hearing in the news for a while now is students unable to get jobs, but maybe because these students come on visa harder for them to finds jobs with restriction etc, plus employers dont want to run the risk

 

[Life_Is_Short]

In a way you're encouraging them to keep begging so i would rather help her get a job then to give her money. Besides she was a muslim sister, she does not belong on the streets where there are strange men.

 

[S<Chowdhury]

In a way you're encouraging them to keep begging so i would rather help her get a job then to give her money. Besides she was a muslim sister, she does not belong on the streets where there are strange men.

We don't know her full story maybe she's an asylum seeker/illegal immigrant so she doesn't have the right papers in order to be employed. But i can't argue with that not the best place for a women to be on the streets begging, but then she could be in desperation who knows or otherwise would she be begging on the street...?

 

[Life_Is_Short]

We don't know her full story maybe she's an asylum seeker/illegal immigrant so she doesn't have the right papers in order to be employed. But i can't argue with that not the best place for a women to be on the streets begging, but then she could be in desperation who knows or otherwise would she be begging on the street...?

She needs to stay at home in that case. She can't have come here on her own. She must have either her brother, husband or dad to provide for her. Asylum seeker get paid by the government and illegal immigrant come with an intention of working.

 

[S<Chowdhury]

She needs to stay at home in that case. She can't have come here on her own. She must have either her brother, husband or dad to provide for her. Asylum seeker get paid by the government and illegal immigrant come with an intention of working.

yeah they get some income support but where does that go on ensuring a basic standard of living, they are forced usually to live 30% below the poverty line. Not mainstream welfare and support.

Not always for work so many other reasons and now usually they can't work because of strict enforcement in employing an illegal immigrant, as an employer you receive quite a big fine so employer if they do employ you then your gonna work for peanut money literally and be exploited.

 

[S<Chowdhury]

Look its all hypothetical situations as we don't know the truth, so we can go on forever lol, i agree sis that its not gd to be begging on the street, but in some circumstances its desperation and maybe as she can't communicate its harder for her to find the help she needs who knows, but i think we are going into immigration etc and off the topic though i did start it lool.

 

[Life_Is_Short]

What about islamic help centers?

 

[syilla]

The way i do it is like this. I only give to person that i know they really really needed the money. and try to do it every week because then you don't feel that guilty to those beggar that you don't gave :hiding: It is important to choose the genuine ones...then InshaAllah you'll be rewarded for they really really needed the money.

 

[S<Chowdhury]

What about islamic help centers?

Of course if she knows where they are, like i said hypothetical situations, could be fairly new to the country but then in east london its not that hard to find a mosque and islamic centres..... maybe if you see her again direct her towards one or give her an address.

 

[Life_Is_Short]

Insha'Allah

 

[Italianguy]

I do .........unless their sitting outside of a liquor storeimsad

 

[S<Chowdhury]

I do .........unless their sitting outside of a liquor storeimsad

If they were standing outside a liquor store they maybe not give them money, but instead buy them some food or something. And if they are fake well most of them will just say No or insist on the money.