Status of women in western society...

[Akeyi]

I WAS GONNA WRITE IT IS SO NICE THAT EVERYONE WROTE SAME THING

BECAUSE IT IS NICE BECAUSE OUR PROPHET SAV SAID THAT
[h=3]One Believer is a Mirror to Anoth
er [/h]


BUT GUY [MENTION=16149]anatolian[/MENTION] STARTED SAYING WHAT HE LEARNED FROM KEMALIST SCHULE AND WANTED TO DEFEND WHAT ATATURK DID HE FORCED WOMEN TO WEAR WHAT ANIMALS WEAR

IT IS SO GOOD THAT ANOTALIAN ALONE WE ARE TOGETHER AS MUSLIMS GOOD WORK

 

[azc]

I WAS GONNA WRITE IT IS SO NICE THAT EVERYONE WROTE SAME THINGBECAUSE IT IS NICE BECAUSE OUR PROPHET SAV SAID THAT[h=3]One Believer is a Mirror to Another [/h]BUT GUY [MENTION=16149]anatolian[/MENTION] STARTED SAYING WHAT HE LEARNED FROM KEMALIST SCHULE AND WANTED TO DEFEND WHAT ATATURK DID HE FORCED WOMEN TO WEAR WHAT ANIMALS WEAR IT IS SO GOOD THAT ANOTALIAN ALONE WE ARE TOGETHER AS MUSLIMS GOOD WORK

will you quote his post...?

 

[Akeyi]

OF COURSE MY FRIEND IT IS MY DUTY OF ALL TIMES

OF COURSE MY FRIEND IT IS MY DUTY

I am agree with you on this..And I also agree with the idea that "the symbol of woman" is used as a tool of commerce in many western and other colonised societies. However, I would like to ask that whether you are questioning the status of women in the Muslim societies? Women are regarded in many Muslim societies as second class citizents. They are not given the same rights as men have. What do you think about this?

Here as an example..A woman can serve food whomsoever she wants and she can go out of her home, she is not caged into her home.

will you quote his post...?

AS YOU SEE I QUOTED NOW THE IMPORTANT PART

THE PART I TELL MY THOUGHTS

First i am from erhabene staat LİKE YOU CAN SEE FROM MY SIGNATURE

BEcause of this i would like to give an example from my country.

WOMEN CAUSED SO MANY TRAGIC EVENTS IN OTTOMAN EMPIRE BECAUSE OF THIS THEY WEREN'T IN THE SOCIAL LIFE SO MUCH
BUT OF COURSE SULTANS OF OTTOMAN EMPIRE GAVE SO STRONG ORDERS

FOR EXAMPLE FORBID DRINKING COFFE FORBID SMOKING FORBID MEETING IN SOME CAFE.
EVERYTHING FOR THE STRENTGH OF ISLAMIC STATE

In islam to protect women from capitalism they are not forced to work. If there is unemployment in the world it is because of women. For example my dad didn't have a job. It was not nice . Then my friend told me it is because of working women.

BUT OUR SUBJECT IS NOT THAT

OUR SUBJECT WHAT ANOTOLIAN SAID

FOR EXAMPLE

THERE ARE BEAUTFUL DOGS IN THE HAUS .

I SAY RED DOG IS VERY UGLY. THEN EVERYONE THINKS THAT OTHER DOGS ARE CUTE FOR ME.

LIKE ANY OF US THERE IS INFIDELISM AND ISLAM.
IF I DONT LIKE ISLAM THEN WHERE IS MY PLACE I AM ASKING YOU MY FRIENDSSSSS

ANOTOLIANT WROTE THAT WOMEN DOESN'T HAVE SAME RIGHTS MAN HAVE. WHICH IS NICE.

IT IS TOO HARD FOR A WOMEN TO WORK. HE CAN STAY HOME RELAX AND DO OTHER THINGS. IF OUR COUNTRY NEEDS A WIFES TO FIGHT HE CAN DECLARE JIHAD. BUT THAT IS ANOTHER _SUBJECT.

 

[azc]

OF COURSE MY FRIEND IT IS MY DUTY OF ALL TIMESOF COURSE MY FRIEND IT IS MY DUTYAS YOU SEE I QUOTED NOW THE IMPORTANT PART THE PART I TELL MY THOUGHTS First i am from erhabene staat LİKE YOU CAN SEE FROM MY SIGNATUREBEcause of this i would like to give an example from my country.WOMEN CAUSED SO MANY TRAGIC EVENTS IN OTTOMAN EMPIRE BECAUSE OF THIS THEY WEREN'T IN THE SOCIAL LIFE SO MUCHBUT OF COURSE SULTANS OF OTTOMAN EMPIRE GAVE SO STRONG ORDERSFOR EXAMPLE FORBID DRINKING COFFE FORBID SMOKING FORBID MEETING IN SOME CAFE.EVERYTHING FOR THE STRENTGH OF ISLAMIC STATEIn islam to protect women from capitalism they are not forced to work. If there is unemployment in the world it is because of women. For example my dad didn't have a job. It was not nice . Then my friend told me it is because of working women. BUT OUR SUBJECT IS NOT THATOUR SUBJECT WHAT ANOTOLIAN SAIDFOR EXAMPLETHERE ARE BEAUTFUL DOGS IN THE HAUS .I SAY RED DOG IS VERY UGLY. THEN EVERYONE THINKS THAT OTHER DOGS ARE CUTE FOR ME.LIKE ANY OF US THERE IS INFIDELISM AND ISLAM. IF I DONT LIKE ISLAM THEN WHERE IS MY PLACE I AM ASKING YOU MY FRIENDSSSSSANOTOLIANT WROTE THAT WOMEN DOESN'T HAVE SAME RIGHTS MAN HAVE. WHICH IS NICE.IT IS TOO HARD FOR A WOMEN TO WORK. HE CAN STAY HOME RELAX AND DO OTHER THINGS. IF OUR COUNTRY NEEDS A WIFES TO FIGHT HE CAN DECLARE JIHAD. BUT THAT IS ANOTHER _SUBJECT.

Bottomline is that a woman, wearing niqab or hijab, can do the job if all the conditions which allow her, are complied with including the aura of non interaction with non mahram or her being all alone without any support from her family or relatives pertaining to her livelihood etc. But if a woman wants to do the job because she is educated then Islam doesn't allow her. On personal level what we think about this issue is a different matter. Here we've to see what our deen commands us. We should refraining from compromising because of appeasement of non Muslims lest we should be called a fundamentalist.

 

[Scimitar]

know that brother ardianto being a good Muslim didn't gaze at her but what about other customers..? And she can't be allowed to wear niqab or hijab on duty...

You really are a little dense in my opinion. In the west, where I live, if men wanted to gaze at women - they don't have to go to cafe's lol. There are way more easier ways to be perverse in the west - but not in cafe's, sheesh.

You would think a library is a place for prostitution, judging by the way you polarize every little thing.

You really need to "think" before you go all "fatwa-monkey" again.

Scimi

 

[azc]

You really are a little dense in my opinion. In the west, where I live, if men wanted to gaze at women - they don't have to go to cafe's lol. There are way more easier ways to be perverse in the west - but not in cafe's, sheesh.You would think a library is a place for prostitution, judging by the way you polarize every little thing.You really need to "think" before you go all "fatwa-monkey" again.Scimi

You really are a little dense in my opinion

Bro, same to you.

In the west, where I live, if men wanted to gaze at women - they don't have to go to cafe's lol. There are way more easier ways to be perverse in the west - but not in cafe's, sheesh.

Islam is not confined to east or west. I assert that a lady can't go out without wearing hijab or niqab. Islam doesn't allow woman to do the job but in exceptional cases. Islam can't be changed because of your whims or your western culture.

You would think a library is a place for prostitution, judging by the way you polarize every little thing.

certainly not; but ''the game'' can be played anywhere if the couple get an opportunity to have fun........? “For women, there is no share in going out except if it is necessary.” (Tabrani)

You really need to "think" before you go all "fatwa-monkey" again

“A women is an object of concealment, thus when she emerges, Satan uses her a means of spreading evil.”(Mishkat, Tirmizi)

 

[Akeyi]

You guys can ask me stuff too when in ramadan fest or in opferfest streets of ottoman empire would be full of woman

 

[adam.ramsey]

Have the women, in the name of freedom, become a toy to play with for the men in western society...?

Much of Western Society has become Luciferian Secular Humanist. They may play lip service to the Bible at times, depending on what community or area you are in, but the guiding philosophy or Ideology followed by Academia, the Mainstream Media, and Western Governments is Luciferian Secular Humanism which believes they have a better way than God.

Feminism degrades women. Feminism doesn't believe in gender. Woman is a word that denotes gender, so it is not right or polite to use that word in describing many western females.

Female - A genderless object that gets passed around from boyfriend to boyfriend. In terms of the Bible, she would be a Harlot and unrepentant.

Woman - A joy to be around. She betters quality of life. She is Proverbs 31.

Christian and Righteous Godly Societies value virgin brides. God is First and Last. He was man's first love as creator. He will be man's last love. Every knee shall bow, every tongue confess. His love is Fatherly having nothing to do with sex.
Are we not children of God? A man would like to be like his father in heaven? He would like to be First and Last in his wife's life. It is a matter of love and honor. Honor is a concept that is lost on many people today, but it is in the Bible. A Judge is The Honorable or Your Honor. God is a Judge. He is honorable and does not lie.

Satanists seem to believe this is to be The Age of Lilith. Lilith was known as a rebellious woman who birthed demons and abominations. A Madonna, Brittany Spears, or Katy Perry may be a Lilith like character to a degree. Their music is "toxic," and they plant poisonous seed in young people. They seem to hate men, and wish to rule over them.

 

[azc]

Much of Western Society has become Luciferian Secular Humanist. They may play lip service to the Bible at times, depending on what community or area you are in, but the guiding philosophy or Ideology followed by Academia, the Mainstream Media, and Western Governments is Luciferian Secular Humanism which believes they have a better way than God. Feminism degrades women. Feminism doesn't believe in gender. Woman is a word that denotes gender, so it is not right or polite to use that word in describing many western females. Female - A genderless object that gets passed around from boyfriend to boyfriend. In terms of the Bible, she would be a Harlot and unrepentant.Woman - A joy to be around. She betters quality of life. She is Proverbs 31. Christian and Righteous Godly Societies value virgin brides. God is First and Last. He was man's first love as creator. He will be man's last love. Every knee shall bow, every tongue confess. His love is Fatherly having nothing to do with sex. Are we not children of God? A man would like to be like his father in heaven? He would like to be First and Last in his wife's life. It is a matter of love and honor. Honor is a concept that is lost on many people today, but it is in the Bible. A Judge is The Honorable or Your Honor. God is a Judge. He is honorable and does not lie. Satanists seem to believe this is to be The Age of Lilith. Lilith was known as a rebellious woman who birthed demons and abominations. A Madonna, Brittany Spears, or Katy Perry may be a Lilith like character to a degree. Their music is "toxic," and they plant poisonous seed in young people. They seem to hate men, and wish to rule over them.

welcome to forum. Good post. Thanks