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I wanted to know whether suicide attacks are allowed in Islam against an enemy of Islam, like the US Government, if there is no other alternative available to defeat the enemy.
 
never attack intending to kill yourself

you can fight a hopeless battle thinking 99.9% you may die, but you should always strive to live on and fight for Allaah whilst hoping for martyrdome.


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Killing oneself is haram. But...

Suppose you are in a battlefield and are losing hopelessly. You are probably going to be defeated and die. Wont it be better to blow yourself up taking many of the enemies rather then dying without killing any of them.

I know that in the war Pakistan fought against India in 1965, a large number of Muslim teenagers wrapped explosives around themselves and lied down in front of Indian tanks.

I wanted to know whether there is a Hadith or a Quranic verse forbidding suicide attacks. Not plain suicide in which you kill yourself for no purpose.

I may have...well...sounded an extremist but in reality these are questions not only disturbing my mind but minds of many muslims.
 
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I would like to remind that those groups/people whose make those attacks don´t think and feel them as "suicides" but martydom attacks. I think there is some difference if we are thinking is suicide allowed but is martydom allowed by Islam.

:-[ Just my own opinion...
 
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i read or i think it was a lecture that i listen to that sthis and gave a great answer so InshALLAH ill try find it and post it InshALLAH,make take a while but ill InhsALLAH

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Actually I've wondered about this issue for a while too, but I haven't been able to find any complete answer on it.

The people who do it say that it is the only effective form of jihad left, that it is not suicide, but martyrdom.

The ulama I have talked to on the matter, say that suicide bombing is not allowed in Pakistan, and if you are somewhere else, ask the ulema of that region who know the situation better.

They also say that while it is wrong for us, it may not be wrong for them in their situation, and Allah knows best.

I find this last statement curiously close to the statement made about suicides, that we are not in their situation and cannot know its details, and only Allah knows whether they are jannati or jahannami.

And, I can't make myself trust the ulema of the people who say it is right, as they also justify setting up bombs in supermarkets and schools, definitely not military targets by anybody's definition.


So basically, I don't know, and don't know who to ask.
 
usman2468 said:
Killing oneself is haram. But...

Suppose you are in a battlefield and are losing hopelessly. You are probably going to be defeated and die. Wont it be better to blow yourself up taking many of the enemies rather then dying without killing any of them.

I know that in the war Pakistan fought against India in 1965, a large number of Muslim teenagers wrapped explosives around themselves and lied down in front of Indian tanks.

I wanted to know whether there is a Hadith or a Quranic verse forbidding suicide attacks. Not plain suicide in which you kill yourself for no purpose.

I may have...well...sounded an extremist but in reality these are questions not only disturbing my mind but minds of many muslims.
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what about the collateral damage?
you may hurt the innocent without knowing

obviously this depends on where you do ti.

but as i said before, never kill yourself....
 
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The Quran is clear on the matter of suicide: do not commit this act.

We are also told to strive during hardships - so even in extreme conditions such as war, suicide would still be haram (given what is written in the Quran).

Allah knows best.
 
The vast majority of suicide attacks are against civilian targets. Unless soldiers are just hanging out at a checkpoint it isn't likely you are going to get close enough to do them any damage. Many have tried with car bombs and have simply been shot up for not stopping when told. It is a very ineffective way to fight a military force. Killing women and children, which most suicide attackers do, is more effective and more easily done.
 
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it's My opinion you all can differ with it
Humans have good and bad things in them and they do things according to their thinking
Devil is there to distract them from good
Things can be good and bad it will be decide how and when u use them
One Alim gaved the fatwa against the music but he uses ipod because he doesn't use it for music but for hearing recitations and lectures of other Alims
so ipod is good but bad for music
Some times alot of knowledge can be dangerous as devil can take us away from islam or good path
so the suicide attacks in any living areas or killing an innocent person is Haram
But
in War it is allowed

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Suicide bombing=Martyrdom????? I've never heard such ****** . Suicide is Haram. Killing innocent people is Haram. If those pawns want to die for Allah, why don't they do it the good ole way, I mean the BRAVE way? They go and face their ennemies and not try to stab in the back. I also find it disgusting when a channel asks people if they are with or against suicide bombing in Maghreb.
 
I visited the following link as abdu-l-Majid advised and thanks a lot brother. It sorted out many of my queries.

but...

Like the example I gave before, that in the war between Pakistan and India in 1965 Pakistani teenagers wrapped bombs around themselves and lied in front of Indian tanks because otherwise these tanks would have wrecked havoc in Pakistan and killed many muslims. After all, Pakistan army was not as strong as the Indians'. Is this allowed or not?
 
Wats suicide to u isnt suicide to someone else. Those who do it "dont consider it suicide" and arent doing it for that reason. So it all comes down to "Niyah" Intention which is something that is concealed from us (we cant read the hearts). Something only Allah SWT knows. So none of u really have any right to judge nobody.

bewildered u dont seem that brave to me.
 
Just picture this:

A school boy, he is 7. He is leaving school. There's a guy who thinks he's BRAVE. He explodes the car. The family of the boy doesn't have a body to burry. There's a grave, in it there's maybe a few fingers. When this boy happens to be your brother......Please come and face me and tell me between the eyes that Allah approves this sicko's act.
 
Let us look at the Kamikaze Pilots of WWll. Those were devout Shinto Japanese Suicide pilots who flew their explosive filled planes into American Ships. It was a last ditch effort to keep America from launching an attack on the Japanese mainland. Where they martyrs or suicides? Was it right for them to do so? Did they achieve martyrdom?

If it was wrong for them to do so, how can we justify doing similar as Muslms.
 
My opinion about muslims who commit suiide attacks.

First of all their actions are bad for worldwide muslims. Nowadays most suicide attacks happen in muslim world, not in christian world. Algeria, Pakistan, Turkey, Kashmir, southern Thailand,parts of India. Suicide bombers are mostly killing other muslims. They feed the hindu nationalism against indian muslims.They bring justification to Thailand or Philipinnes to act harshly in muslim dominated areas. Hamas and other such groups are also partly responsible for the rise of islamophobia from France to Australia.
 
My opinion about muslims who commit suiide attacks.

First of all their actions are bad for worldwide muslims. Nowadays most suicide attacks happen in muslim world, not in christian world. Algeria, Pakistan, Turkey, Kashmir, southern Thailand,parts of India. Suicide bombers are mostly killing other muslims. They feed the hindu nationalism against indian muslims.They bring justification to Thailand or Philipinnes to act harshly in muslim dominated areas. Hamas and other such groups are also partly responsible for the rise of islamophobia from France to Australia.