Supposing the Angel of Death came to you today......

[Flame of Hope]

Ah, but you're overlooking the point I raised in the previous page. Who's to say your repentance would be accepted given your hypothetical scenario? Chances are it won't be...

Chances are it won't be, huh? lol.

(I should clarify that I'm just having some fun and going along with the hypothetical scenario. I know it's not meant to be taken seriously. )

It is a hypothetical question. Sure! But you see, the whole point of the question was to make people stop and think.....tomorrow isn't guaranteed for anyone. When we wake up in the morning, there's no guarantee we'll live till the evening. And when we reach the evening, there's no guarantee that we'll see the morning.

A believer who is aware of these facts wouldn't squander away his time in futile pursuits, would he? This isn't a question that we can dismiss so easily.

I'd be glad if it made some people mindful of the Hereafter and seriously began to think about preparing themselves for DEATH. If it did, then all praise belongs to Allah. Alhamdulillahir rabbil al ameen!

 

[Tyrion]

Chances are it won't be, huh? lol.

Uhm, yes. That's what I said.

It is a hypothetical question. Sure! But you see, the whole point of the question was to make people stop and think.....tomorrow isn't guaranteed for anyone. When we wake up in the morning, there's no guarantee we'll live till the evening. And when we reach the evening, there's no guarantee that we'll see the morning.

A believer who is aware of these facts wouldn't squander away his time in futile pursuits, would he? This isn't a question that we can dismiss so easily.

I'd be glad if it made some people mindful of the Hereafter and seriously began to think about preparing themselves for DEATH. If it did, then all praise belongs to Allah. Alhamdulillahir rabbil al ameen!

I know it's a hypothetical question, that's why I said it was... And I know about the whole "we should be mindful of death" thing... Ahah, I was just commenting on what you said earlier about your reaction.

But yeah, I suppose it would be awesome if the thread caused anyone to start thinking about death more. I personally don't really see this thread as doing that, but that's just me. Hopefully others took a reminder from it.

 

[Flame of Hope]

I know it's a hypothetical question, that's why I said it was... And I know about the whole "we should be mindful of death" thing... Ahah, I was just commenting on what you said earlier about your reaction.

My reaction. Well, I was sort of compelled to answer the question I had myself asked. A brother specifically asked me to. lol. I didn't have a choice but to answer as truthfully as I could. hew

This is indeed a hypothetical question......and of course all sensible people know very well that such a thing is never going to happen.

When death does come, it comes suddenly and without warning. The Angel of Death isn't so gracious as to come a day in advance to warn us that we have only 24 hours left to live.

Reality is much harsher. When death does come to one of us suddenly and without warning, we become full of regrets beseeching Allah to send us back to the world......so that we could repent.

If only it were true that the Angel of Death gave us a day to sort things out before we left this world.......sigh.

May Allah make us among those who frequently repent and weep over our sins. Ameen.

 

[Tyrion]

My reaction. Well, I was sort of compelled to answer the question I had myself asked. A brother specifically asked me to. lol. I didn't have a choice but to answer as truthfully as I could.

This is indeed a hypothetical question......and of course all sensible people know very well that such a thing is never going to happen.

When death does come, it comes suddenly and without warning. The Angel of Death isn't so gracious as to come a day in advance to warn us that we have only 24 hours left to live.

Reality is much harsher. When death does come to one of us suddenly and without warning, we become full of regrets beseeching Allah to send us back to the world......so that we could repent.

If only it were true that the Angel of Death gave us a day to sort things out before we left this world.......sigh.

May Allah make us among those who frequently repent and weep over our sins. Ameen.

I feel like we're having some problems understanding each other... I was talking about your reaction as in... Your reaction to the angel of Death within your own hypothetical scenario... I was just commenting on that. Since there seems to be an issue in actually understanding what I was saying, I think we should just move on. It wasn't important anyway. I'm not sure why you keep going into how reality is not like the hypothetical situation though... We all get that.

 

[Flame of Hope]

I feel like we're having some problems understanding each other... I was talking about your reaction as in... Your reaction to the angel of Death within your own hypothetical scenario... I was just commenting on that. Since there seems to be an issue in actually understanding what I was saying, I think we should just move on. It wasn't important anyway. I'm not sure why you keep going into how reality is not like the hypothetical situation though... We all get that.

If there's a misunderstanding, it ought to be cleared up, don't you think?

People have been giving differing answers to this hypothetical scenario. You haven't given yours, by the way.

If you don't mind me asking, how exactly SHOULD we respond if the Angel of Death suddenly came to take our soul? How would you respond? Please remember this is NOT a hypothetical question. This is for real. And this is something that is definitely going to happen...and can happen at any time.

 

[Tyrion]

If there's a misunderstanding, it ought to be cleared up, don't you think?

People have been giving differing answers to this hypothetical scenario. You haven't given yours, by the way.

If you don't mind me asking, how exactly SHOULD we respond if the Angel of Death suddenly came to take our soul? How would you respond? Please remember this is NOT a hypothetical question. This is for real. And this is something that is definitely going to happen...and can happen at any time.

Lol, I've repeatedly tried to explain that all I was doing was questioning YOUR response, but I keep getting odd responses that never seem to answer anything. Like I said though, this is wasting time now and we should drop it.

And I did write a response of my own... Did you not catch my post in the previous page?

 

[Flame of Hope]

Would any of our worship and repentance actually be accepted if we were told our time of death by the Angel of Death himself? I doubt they would be, since I think that might be kinda unfair...

This actually brought a verse of Quran to mind:

They say: "Why is not an angel sent down to him?" If we did send down an angel, the matter would be settled at once, and no respite would be granted them. (6:8, Yusuf Ali)

So yeah, in this particular case I think I'd just be terrified.

My sincere apologies. You did answer the question. But I didn't understand the part where you said....

Would any of our worship and repentance actually be accepted if we were told our time of death by the Angel of Death himself? I doubt they would be, since I think that might be kinda unfair...

Why do you think it would be kinda unfair?^o)

 

[Tyrion]

My sincere apologies. You did answer the question. But I didn't understand the part where you said....

Would any of our worship and repentance actually be accepted if we were told our time of death by the Angel of Death himself? I doubt they would be, since I think that might be kinda unfair...

Why do you think it would be kinda unfair?

Well, the way I see it... If the Angel of Death were to come down and tell us we had a day to live, we would be at a rather unfair advantage when compared to everyone else... That, and the fact that life as a test (which is what our life is) would be pretty meaningless of we had an angel come to us and tell us about our death...

Also, that verse that was brought to mind seems eerily similar this scenario, and it makes sense that if an Angel were to come down, our test would be over at once. Hope that made sense.

 

[Ramadhan]

Why do you think it would be kinda unfair?

It is clear from the Qur'an that our repentance is not accepted once we know absolutely for sure when we are going to die. It is from the story of fir'aun who repented when the sea was swallowing him, but it was too late.
If I can remember correctly, there's also some other stories from ahadeeth about the same thing.

 

[Flame of Hope]

Well, the way I see it... If the Angel of Death were to come down and tell us we had a day to live, we would be at a rather unfair advantage when compared to everyone else... That, and the fact that life as a test (which is what our life is) would be pretty meaningless of we had an angel come to us and tell us about our death...

Also, that verse that was brought to mind seems eerily similar this scenario, and it makes sense that if an Angel were to come down, our test would be over at once. Hope that made sense.

Subhanallah! That really made sense! I never thought of it that way. You're right! We would have a rather unfair advantage, wouldn't we?

Am I glad I asked you to clarify!

Jazakallah khair for a beautiful perspective on this very hypothetical question.

 

[Woodrow]

Although I have already replied here, I have had another thought ever since. I think it would be wonderful for somebody to be so blessed that when the Angel of Death comes, he will be a day late and the person he has come for was already resting peacefully waiting to enter Jannah.

 

[Flame of Hope]

Yet for all of us the angel of death has visited us and has told us we will die tomorrow. If we find we do not die tomorrow, it is only because Allaah(swt) has chosen to let us live a little longer.

We have grown lax and lazy and no matter how many times we have been told we will die tomorrow, we always live life with the assumption that at the last minute we will be given more time.

None of us can truly say we are prepared for tomorrow, until we can welcome the Angel of Death with open arms and greet him as a Friend who has come out of love to bring us home.

Jazakallah khair for these words of insight. You have said it beautifully.

 

[Flame of Hope]

Well, the way I see it... If the Angel of Death were to come down and tell us we had a day to live, we would be at a rather unfair advantage when compared to everyone else... That, and the fact that life as a test (which is what our life is) would be pretty meaningless of we had an angel come to us and tell us about our death...

Also, that verse that was brought to mind seems eerily similar this scenario, and it makes sense that if an Angel were to come down, our test would be over at once. Hope that made sense.

Tyrion, I've been thinking about what you've said. I now understand what you meant....

However, I'd like to add in a few points here regarding this hypothetical scenario.

First point: If the Angel of Death really were to come and give me 24 hours advance warning, I wouldn't be thinking about other people at all. I'd be predominantly concerned about my own fate........sorry, I'd be very selfish during this last stage of my life. And I would very much consider myself most fortunate that I have the "unfair advantage". I would see it as Allah's mercy to me. Which brings me to point number 2.

Second point: For some people the Angel of Death coming to warn a person about his or her impending death isn't at all a hypothetical thing. In some cases, this could be a reality. A doctor could come to one of us and say that our days are numbered. Aren't people who are given information about how long they have left to live fortunate? Can't we consider them to be people who have an "unfair advantage" compared to everyone else?

A person who knows that he hasn't many days left to live would be a lucky person indeed. He can spend his remaining days, repenting to Allah and making amends to people he had wronged.

Thus elderly people, sickly people have an "unfair advantage"...

People suffering from serious fatal diseases like cancer have an "unfair advantage"....

The news that they are going to die soon ought to make them happy.

 

[Tyrion]

Thus elderly people, sickly people have an "unfair advantage"...

People suffering from serious fatal diseases like cancer have an "unfair advantage"....

Not true. The original question had an actual Angel descending from the heavens to tell you, face to face, your time of death. This is different, and would end our test here on Earth. I think naidamar also said it well:

It is clear from the Qur'an that our repentance is not accepted once we know absolutely for sure when we are going to die. It is from the story of fir'aun who repented when the sea was swallowing him, but it was too late.
If I can remember correctly, there's also some other stories from ahadeeth about the same thing.

 

[Flame of Hope]

Originally Posted by naidamar
It is clear from the Qur'an that our repentance is not accepted once we know absolutely for sure when we are going to die. It is from the story of fir'aun who repented when the sea was swallowing him, but it was too late.
If I can remember correctly, there's also some other stories from ahadeeth about the same thing.

Yes, I completely agree with that. This is when death comes too close to you. But if you have a day (24 hours) or a month notice in advance, then would it be the same scenario? If you say yes, then old people and people suffering from cancer have no hope whatsoever.

 

[Tyrion]

Yes, I completely agree with that. This is when death comes too close to you. But if you have a day (24 hours) or a month notice in advance, then would it be the same scenario? If you say yes, then old people and people suffering from cancer have no hope whatsoever.

I think you're misunderstanding part of what makes the Angel coming down unfair... It's not just that you'd know when you're going to die, but it's also because you've been given a kind of physical proof that nobody else has been given, and with that your test is now pointless and therefore over, making any repentance meaningless... This is very different from someone who has just been told by their doctor that they have a month to live... Hope that makes sense.

 

[abjad]

:mmokay: Asking Allah for forgiveness is a better solution akhi.

but
that is not the time asking 4 Forgiveness (is 0n this world)

there judgment !!!

 

[in jihad]

you do know that you wont be able to meet Allah right after death? Not till you get into Jannah when Allah will remove the veil. Till then we cant say that death = meeting Allah.

First of all I do not think Angel of death will come and tell me that he will come tomorrow to take my soul. Why? because no one knows the time of death except Allah. Angel of death is then breaking the word of Allah by telling me that I will die tomorrow when I have only 1 day to live. What is the point of doing that? Where is angel of death right now? I dont think he has any control over his will.

In Islam, angel of death comes, takes the soul/human physically dies, takes the soul to heaven, human is buried in meanwhile or burnt to ashes, and then soul is returned in the grave and questions are asked and the soul remains in human body within the grave till Qiyama. I do not know what happens to the soul of those who get their corpses burnt after dying and get them spread into the wilderness such as the Rockies. And I also do not know if Munqir and Naqeer ask such ppl the questions of the 'grave" since there is no grave to begin with.

I will have nothing to ask him if he comes, for he comes without telling and goes without telling within picoseconds.

I know I don't get to see Allah straight after I die. Death is first step in journey. I not say death = meet Allah. There is no guarantee anyone going to Jannah and see Allah. I only say that becoz the prophet saws told us that whoever die as Muslim will enter jannah. So why shouldn't I be happy about news of my coming death? I wud have chance to die as muslim and mebbe die while I am in prayer. Also prophet saws told us to have more hope in Allah's mercy when close to dying. If after knowing all this we still think that we will not go to jannah, then was the prophet saws lying about what he said? If tis true, then we have plenty reason to hope of receiving God's mercy.

I think as muslims and believers in allah and the teaching of prophet muhammad saws we must always be like this, whether the angel of death come to us to warn us or not. So even if the angel don't come, tis ok for me. I still be praying and waiting and hoping for allah's mercy and I still be doing the best I can worshiping allah. So it don't matter to me when the angel come.

There is one story which go like this:

Ismaaeel ibn Zakariya described Habeeb ibn Muhammad, who was a neighbour of his. He said: "Every evening I heard him weeping and every morning I heard him weeping, so I went to his wife and said: 'What is the matter with him? He weeps in the evening and he weeps in the morning!' She said to me: 'By Allaah, when evening comes he fears that he will not live till morning and when morning comes he fears that he will not live till evening.'"

I try to live my life like this and this is what it mean to be prepared. If u prepared then the news of death is happy news. If u not prepared it's bad news.

 

[Flame of Hope]

only say that becoz the prophet saws told us that whoever die as Muslim will enter jannah. So why shouldn't I be happy about news of my coming death? I wud have chance to die as muslim and mebbe die while I am in prayer. Also prophet saws told us to have more hope in Allah's mercy when close to dying. If after knowing all this we still think that we will not go to jannah, then was the prophet saws lying about what he said? If tis true, then we have plenty reason to hope of receiving God's mercy.

No, of course it's unthinkable that the Prophet (saws) was lying when he (saws) told us that we would go to Jannah if we died as Muslims. I think, that's not the point as I suddenly realized it today. Even if the Angel of Death did come to give us a warning that we would soon die, we still can't be sure that we would die as Muslims. Even after knowledge has come to us and we know the truth about dying with la ilaha il Allah upon our lips, we can never be sure that when the final minute comes and we take our last breath, we would indeed die upon The Straight Path.

This is because Shaytan will do his utmost to mislead us, especially during the end time. He would do everything in his power to fool us and deceive us. He would try to distract us and get our attention away from death and the Hereafter. He might even convince us that the Angel of Death was not real. That it was a figment of our imagination. And we might decide that we do not want to believe the Angel's warning. So we could end up not taking the warning seriously and spend our time the way we usually do......perhaps in futile and vain pursuits, until death comes to us all of a sudden.

The point is, we can never be sure how we will die and whether we will indeed die as Muslims. The thought is frightening.

May Allah make us among those who die as true believers upon the Sirat al Mustaqeem. Ameen.

 

[جوري]

Supposing the Angel of Death came to you today......

Then finally the comment I make every time I am sick will be meaningful ...

''Death have you finally come for me?''