[guyabano]

A Taleban spokesman says a South Korean from a group of 22 held hostage by the Taleban in southern Afghanistan has been killed.

The office of the governor of Ghazni province and local police also told the BBC the killing had taken place, but neither had seen the victim's body.
The Korean Christian aid workers were kidnapped 10 days ago.
The leader of the group was shot by the Taleban on Wednesday. The militants want government prisoners released.

TV footage

"We set several deadlines and the Afghan government did not pay attention to our deadlines," said Taleban spokesman Qari Yousuf Ahmadi.
The al-Jazeera Arabic TV station showed footage of several of the hostages held by the Taleban.
Several women were seen in the footage with headscarves and Taleban militants in the background.
According to reports, no new deadline for the government to release its prisoners has been set by the Taleban.
The Afghan government is doing all it can to secure the release of the South Koreans, President Hamid Karzai said on Sunday.
He assured a South Korean envoy everything possible was being done to free the hostages - mainly women.

Mr Karzai said kidnapping foreign guests was "shameful", un-Islamic and against Afghan culture.


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I can only join these statements. What those Taliban do is coward acts and very shameful. I cannot understand, that some of this Board support People like that ! :thumbs_do

 

[Keltoi]

Second one killed today. Truly shameful.

 

[wilberhum]

I cannot understand, that some of this Board support People like that ! :thumbs_do

I don't understand either.
Would someone who is a Teleban supporter please explain.

 

[SATalha]

May the remaining people be released safely.

 

[Amadeus85]

First of all, lets say honestly, it was extremely stupid for those Koreans to go to Afganistan nowadays. Is now a more dangerous place for christian missionaries ? I really doubt. Its like getting in the face of lion. I checked even a korean forum, and great majority of Koreans think that those missonaries were extremely stupid to go there.
But of course i really hope that they will be saved.Although, i think that Talibans will kill them one by one.

 

[wilberhum]

First of all, lets say honestly, it was extremely stupid for those Koreans to go to Afganistan nowadays. Is now a more dangerous place for christian missionaries ? I really doubt. Its like getting in the face of lion. I checked even a korean forum, and great majority of Koreans think that those missonaries were extremely stupid to go there.
But of course i really hope that they will be saved.Although, i think that Talibans will kill them one by one.

The extreme stupidity of the Koreans is not in question.
But, They are not guilty of criminal stupidity.

What the Taliban is doing is criminal.

Its like getting in the face of lion.

It isn't anything like that. I don't expect a lion to respect human life.

 

[Amadeus85]

The extreme stupidity of the Koreans is not in question.
But, They are not guilty of criminal stupidity.

What the Taliban is doing is criminal.


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There are so many places that need christian missionaries more, for example Great Britain, Holland, France, Sweden.

 

[wilberhum]

There are so many places that need christian missionaries more, for example Great Britain, Holland, France, Sweden.

In your openion^.

In my opinion, no place needs missionaries.
They destroy cultures.

 

[SATalha]

In your openion^.

In my opinion, no place needs missionaries.
They destroy cultures.

they are culture

 

[جوري]

 

[wilberhum]

That does seem to be the message the Taleban wants to send out.
Too bad it includes the Afghanis.

 

[جوري]

Afghanis are too busy with their opium to notice!

 

[Skywalker]

Proselytization is not allowed within a Muslim country...which is what those missionaries were doing -- you become Christian, we give you food and water.

However, there are a few questions raised here:

1) IS Afghanistan a Sharia country, hence would that rule apply?
2) Does Islam actually permit the killing of kuffar who try to spread their religion in a Sharia state? -- if not, what is the Islamic punishment, if any?
3) How could the Koreans be that dumb? Something is amiss...

 

[Mawaddah]

I dont think it's the question of them being 'dumb', I suppose they're just those kinds of people who read too much of those 'heroic' acts of the missionaries of old tramping deep into forests and facing vicious tribesmen just to spread the word of Jesus...

I suppose they were feeling very much heroic ... walking into the face of danger...you never know.

Or maybe they were just desperate to 'save' some poor souls...

Well I hope the Taliban pulls it's act together. It's just terrible what they're doing.

 

[Keltoi]

I dont think it's the question of them being 'dumb', I suppose they're just those kinds of people who read too much of those 'heroic' acts of the missionaries of old tramping deep into forests and facing vicious tribesmen just to spread the word of Jesus...

I suppose they were feeling very much heroic ... walking into the face of danger...you never know.

Or maybe they were just desperate to 'save' some poor souls...

Well I hope the Taliban pulls it's act together. It's just terrible what they're doing.

It isn't a matter of being heroic. Christians are expected to volunteer for missionary work at some point in their lives, and it isn't for the sake of adventure in most cases. Although I'm sure there is the occasional missionary "rambo" out there. However, those that sent these people into Afghanistan were obviously incompetent. You don't send missionaries into a war zone. The U.S. military doesn't want them there because they usually end up having to save them, at the risk of U.S. servicemen. Reminds me of the rescue mission the U.S. had to pull off to save those British and American missionaries(AKA peace activists) in Iraq not that long ago.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Australian special forces get wind of this one. That is one 1st class outfit there....

 

[Amadeus85]

Proselytization is not allowed within a Muslim country...which is what those missionaries were doing -- you become Christian, we give you food and water.

I have read a bit about south korean missionaries working in central Asia (Kirgistan,Tajjikistan,Chechenia,) and it is rather not about giving food to poor people.

 

[wilberhum]

Proselytization is not allowed within a Muslim country...which is what those missionaries were doing -- you become Christian, we give you food and water....

If it is not allolwed, that is up to the government, not a bunch of armed thugs.

However, there are a few questions raised here:

1) IS Afghanistan a Sharia country, hence would that rule apply?......

To about the same extent as Sadui Arabia.

2) Does Islam actually permit the killing of kuffar who try to spread their religion in a Sharia state? -- if not, what is the Islamic punishment, if any?

That seams to be pointless in this thread since the actions are not that of the government.

3) How could the Koreans be that dumb? Something is amiss...

There is always people doing what others concider dumb.

 

[wilberhum]

No deal on Korean hostages - Bush
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6933063.stm
US President George W Bush and Afghan leader Hamid Karzai have agreed not to bargain with the Taleban over South Korean hostages, the White House said.
A US presidential spokesman said there would be no "quid pro quo" over the 21 captives, after a news conference near Washington between the two leaders.

Two South Koreans from the abducted Christian group have been killed by the Taleban, who demand a prisoner swap.

The captives - 18 of them women - were seized on 19 July from a bus in Ghazni.

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[Keltoi]

No deal on Korean hostages - Bush
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6933063.stm
US President George W Bush and Afghan leader Hamid Karzai have agreed not to bargain with the Taleban over South Korean hostages, the White House said.
A US presidential spokesman said there would be no "quid pro quo" over the 21 captives, after a news conference near Washington between the two leaders.

Two South Koreans from the abducted Christian group have been killed by the Taleban, who demand a prisoner swap.

The captives - 18 of them women - were seized on 19 July from a bus in Ghazni.

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That must be a really difficult position to take, especially with women involved. I understand why there can be no negotiation for hostages, (as it will only lead to more hostages), but these are some of the decisions leaders have to make that must really be hard.

 

[wilberhum]

Many times in life you don't get to make "Good Decisions".

Some times you have to choose the "Lest Bad".