The Life of Sh Abdul Aziz Bin Baz (Rahimahullah) - Friday 25th April‏

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convert said:
Why is it when we hear stories about classical scholars, we praise them because they stood up to tyrants and spoke the truth but when someone aligned with the Saud family pushes status quo and puts *millions* of muslims in harms way, we brush it off like it ain't a thing?
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because Islamically, if one is forced to do something against their will, he/she is not held accountable due to the fact that it was done under coercion (sp?).
 
convert said:
Ok get me a translation then.
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Allaahul Musta'aan... you haven't even read the fatwa and you're passing judgements, and accusing people of scholar 'worship' simply because they are defending the shaykh? Or has wikipedia become an authentic source of information all of a sudden?
 
Faizah said:
Allaahul Musta'aan... you haven't even read the fatwa and you're passing judgements, and accusing people of scholar 'worship' simply because they are defending the shaykh? Or has wikipedia become an authentic source of information all of a sudden?
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I have seen summaries and from what I have seen it has to do with dawah or some stuff. I still stand by the known statement of the prophet(saw) rather than an edict from a house scholar.

Moreover, what if some high up scholar used flowery language and reason to say riba was permissible. Wouldn't your own common sense kick in here?
 
It was something like using the help of the mushriks (Americans) to fight mushriks (baathists) and to do so would be giving dawah to the foreign troops as well as preventing the dawah (i.e. the Saudi family) from being destroyed by Saddam's troops.
 
you know and i know akhi certain sheikhs are under restrictions, some of them speak their minds and they are prisoned, like sheikh salman al auwda, he was propa againist it, and he spoke out and he got prison for like years,

anyway, there is no point in discussin fatwas, whats done is done, its all in the past, sheikh ibn baz (rahim allah) has died, whatever he did, thats for Allahs (swt) to sort out, it aint gona make a difference on what we say and do!
 
convert said:
It was something like using the help of the mushriks (Americans) to fight mushriks (baathists) and to do so would be giving dawah to the foreign troops as well as preventing the dawah (i.e. the Saudi family) from being destroyed by Saddam's troops.
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and you do know that amongst the scholars of the salaf there is a difference of opinion on this anyway so its not one clear cut thing right...?
 

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