The Oppressed

[hisnameiszzz]

I have a question about people that are oppressed. Forgive me if I sound completely jaheel (maybe it's finally rubbed off on me from the evil family that live next door). Also, I may be talking complete nonsense, lack of sleep does this to you and sometimes I feel there are two people in my head (thank you evil family that live next door for ruining my life!),

I've read hadeeths and various quotations where it says "Allah listens to the prayers of those that are oppressed" and "damned will be the oppressor" and things to that effect.

So say for example, there is a country and there is an evil oppressive dictator who has his cronies go round and kill people without reason. These people are oppressed. So does this mean none of them prayed to Allah or does it mean Allah didn't listen to their prayers? Or are they killed because it was written in their book of life (or whatever) and the above hadeeths and quotations do not apply for that reason? Or is it because all the oppressed will go straight into Janet when they die and that is their prayers being accepted?

Let's take Syria for example. They have an evil dictator who gets off on killing children and women and men. The people are oppressed. I am sure they pray to Allah if they are Muslims but a lot of them still end up getting tortured/mutilated/murdered. How does that work? For sure, it's not going to be "help from Allah" for each person that is oppressed.

Could someone please clarify for me.

Administrators and moderators please feel free to change the wording or delete this thread as I might have gone completely bonkers.

 

[M.I.A.]

its two sides of the same coin..

how can you say one side...of the coin...is oppressed?

if you went next door and forced them.. absolutely forced them to close doors gently and turn down the music.. if not off completely..

then you would be the oppressor.

"/

you know the bigger you are..


anyway, if you think that humanity and forgiveness and restraint have any benefit in a world that overlooks them so casually..

then thats the choice you make.



..it won't win you any wars..

id buy a farm and build a wall around it if i could.

http://metro.co.uk/2017/01/17/more-...ry-jet-bombs-refugee-camp-by-mistake-6387247/


tfw not a special snowflake.

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im just trying to figure out if they put any bumbling idiot into a fighter jet..

oh sorry i accidentalied a refugee camp..

you know its insane, think twice and your no longer in the moment.

unless your motivation is the chains you hold on to.

..and they are oh so real.


hear them knocking.

o_o


you are what you eat apparently.

glad that made sense to you o_0


to get anywhere in this place will take the upmost humility.

...or is that only when your not on top?

 

[muslim brother]

the help of allah comes "after some time"
it may be weeks months or years
but it does come

use that "waiting time " to build character,advance your knowledge ,resilience and spirituality
there is a higher purpose to "suffering"
we have to see it with an enlightened heart not just a religious one
there is a difference

 

[AbdurRahman.]

help does come to the opressed but it takes time and in the meanwhile ALlah tests the opressed ...

unfortunately the 'opression' can be a punishment on the people too [for 99.9 percent of us are turned away from the deen] so this is why 'opression' may not go awa so quickly! :Emoji29:; let me elaborate on this point a bit ... the 'punishment' is from ALlah [as everything that happens from Him is either mercy or Justice; good is mercy, bad is justice] and the opression is from man

 

[azc]

I have a question about people that are oppressed. Forgive me if I sound completely jaheel (maybe it's finally rubbed off on me from the evil family that live next door). Also, I may be talking complete nonsense, lack of sleep does this to you and sometimes I feel there are two people in my head (thank you evil family that live next door for ruining my life!),

I've read hadeeths and various quotations where it says "Allah listens to the prayers of those that are oppressed" and "damned will be the oppressor" and things to that effect.

So say for example, there is a country and there is an evil oppressive dictator who has his cronies go round and kill people without reason. These people are oppressed. So does this mean none of them prayed to Allah or does it mean Allah didn't listen to their prayers? Or are they killed because it was written in their book of life (or whatever) and the above hadeeths and quotations do not apply for that reason? Or is it because all the oppressed will go straight into Janet when they die and that is their prayers being accepted?

Let's take Syria for example. They have an evil dictator who gets off on killing children and women and men. The people are oppressed. I am sure they pray to Allah if they are Muslims but a lot of them still end up getting tortured/mutilated/murdered. How does that work? For sure, it's not going to be "help from Allah" for each person that is oppressed.

Could someone please clarify for me.

Administrators and moderators please feel free to change the wording or delete this thread as I might have gone completely bonkers.

Notwithstanding, you can not sever ties with your neighbors.

Undoubtedly, oppressed will be rewarded and oppressors will be punished on judgement day In sha Allah

 

[Supernova]

I have a question about people that are oppressed. Forgive me if I sound completely jaheel (maybe it's finally rubbed off on me from the evil family that live next door). Also, I may be talking complete nonsense, lack of sleep does this to you and sometimes I feel there are two people in my head (thank you evil family that live next door for ruining my life!),

I've read hadeeths and various quotations where it says "Allah listens to the prayers of those that are oppressed" and "damned will be the oppressor" and things to that effect.

So say for example, there is a country and there is an evil oppressive dictator who has his cronies go round and kill people without reason. These people are oppressed. So does this mean none of them prayed to Allah or does it mean Allah didn't listen to their prayers? Or are they killed because it was written in their book of life (or whatever) and the above hadeeths and quotations do not apply for that reason? Or is it because all the oppressed will go straight into Janet when they die and that is their prayers being accepted?

Let's take Syria for example. They have an evil dictator who gets off on killing children and women and men. The people are oppressed. I am sure they pray to Allah if they are Muslims but a lot of them still end up getting tortured/mutilated/murdered. How does that work? For sure, it's not going to be "help from Allah" for each person that is oppressed.

Could someone please clarify for me.

Administrators and moderators please feel free to change the wording or delete this thread as I might have gone completely bonkers.

Asalaamualaykum Dear brother in Islam.
I gather from what your question that your idea of Dua needs to be explained.
There was another person weeks ago that asked a similar question.
I answered the person and although it doesn't include the part of oppression- I'm sure that a simple after thought will suffice.
Below is my answer regarding the understanding of Dua.
Asalaamualaykum

In reality the mercy of Allah SWT is upon every dua made by a person.

The most important concept to understand in this topic - is that Allah SWT, gives each person a unique trial in this life taking into consideration what capacity he has suspended upon that person. In other words, all conditions that Allah SWT has designated in your life is meant for the sole intention to lead you to Jannah provided you react to that in accordance with Islam.

Example: If Allah SWT designates poverty upon a muslim, the trial is to see if that person will turn to haraam (like theft, robbery etc) or if the person will rely on his Rabb being the provider of all providers. That poverty which Allah SWT designates is unique to that persons ability and that trial is passable. Allah SWT created that person hence he knows that the trial is not beyond him/her.

Taking that into consideration - The position of dua is this.
Firstly- Allah SWT doesn't accept a haraam dua based on Asmanal Husna of Allah SWT. Example: If a person makes dua that his Mother-in-law gets crushed by a crane, simply because he hates her - Based on the fact that Allah SWT is all pure, that wont be accepted.

Secondly - the remainder of duas ( This is linked to your question). If a person asks for something Halaal Example, 1 Million dollars - then Allah SWT will only grant him the 1 Million dollars IF the 1 Million dollars was going to aid the person into entering Jannah. Example using it for good deeds. Allah SWT will "reject" the dua is that same 1 Million dollars was going to aid in the persons entery into Jahanam. The very fact that Allah SWT is Ar-Rahmaan & Ar-Raheem will lead any believer to understand that the acceptance or rejection of dua is actually in the best interest of the believer.

This is the reason why our greatest scholars in 1400 years have always explained that should that person not get 1 Million dollars - then Allah SWT will replace it something equivalent in the best interest of that person reaching Jannah. Example: Although the person asks for 1 Million dollars and it got rejected, Allah SWT might in turn give that person peace in their life, or a pious spouse, or obedient children Etc.

On a deeper level - you might have noticed that i used inverted commas in the word 'Rejected' two paragraphs above. I will explain as to why i did that.

Lets say Zayd makes dua for a million dollars and never gets it. Zayd's limited understanding and knowledge in life will lead him to think that Allah SWT has rejected his dua. Taking into consideration that Allah SWT gives us whats in our best interests to acquire Jannah - Allah SWT in reality has accepted the dua and withheld the million dollars from Zayd - so in reality Zayds expectation or result of that dua never get met BUT Zayds dua actually got accepted by the mercy of Allah SWT because Allah SWT saved Zayd from a the Fitna of owning the money.

So in reality Allah SWT might not give a person the result or exact expectation of a dua - but that Dua is never gone to waste.

So when a dua of ours is rejected, don't despair, the essence of that dua is actually accepted which is why Allah never grants the result. He is simply saving us from a Fitna that we (in our limitation) couldn't handle.

You must also remember that the very fact that a believer asks Allah SWT alone - even before he starts requesting, is already a great reward for the believer simply because the believer has demonstrated Thoheed.

Wasalaam.

 

[M.I.A.]

Beware of the one that threatens you with poverty and beckons you towards unseemly conduct.

..i suppose everybody makes duas..

Those made off the prayer mat are dangerous.


Aint no point in being a boxer if you dont have reach.

But you are correct none the less.. allah swt tests by diffetent methods.

...dont know why i posted now?