This will cause some anger....RIDICULOUS!

[England]

Too Scared For Christmas
Updated: 16:12, Tuesday December 05, 2006

Nearly three-quarters of British firms are banning Christmas decorations in the workplace for fear of being sued, research has shown.

A new survey found most bosses are scared to put up festive tinsel and Christmas trees because they might offend non-Christian workers.

Law firm Peninsula said the workplace was becoming caught up in the "wave" of political correctness.

"Christmas trees and decorations may well be a thing of the past in many workplaces this Christmas as political correctness culture has spread to the workplace," managing director Peter Done said.

"Although employers who are enforcing the ban are sceptical and dismayed by this trend, they feel they have little choice in the matter due to the threat of litigation, as they have to protect themselves, their reputation and their livelihood."

Office workers at Tower Hamlets council and the Royal Bank of Scotland have also been banned from hanging up Christmas decorations at work - in case they got hurt.

Staff were barred via email from climbing on office furniture to put up decorations in case they fell off, hurt themselves and sued.

Recently, workplace dispute reconciliation advisors ACAS attracted criticism for warning bosses they had to be politically correct at office parties.

A set of guidelines issued by the service warned against running raffles at end-of-year shindigs, because they might offend Muslims, and against playing too much modern music, because it might offend older members of staff.

 

[arabiyyah]

interesting. i would like to read others opinions because in my head i am debating this issue looking at all sides.

 

[IbnAbdulHakim]

:salamext:

they put up decorations in my work place, and everytime i look at that fat jolly santa i cant stop laughing lol

 

[- Qatada -]

I think the only reason they doing it is to cause anti-religion everywhere, and they know that if they can ban other faiths - they can ban islaam too. And obviously islaam is the most practical religion so if they can ban stuff like this, they got an easy excuse to ban islaam too. And Allaah Almighty knows best.



Peace.

 

[Woodrow]

The Christmas decorations do not offend me. I am not compelled to believe in the symbolism of them. I do not feel anyone is trying to force a religious belief upon me. In fact in my view the decorations are so secular that I see them as an advertisement for a seasonal sale with no religious significance.

 

[IbnAbdulHakim]

:salamext:

now if they tried forcing me to join my hands and say "oh lord jesus" there might be problems, but a jolly fat man wiv a green tree , lol no problem

 

[Umar001]

I know of at least one work place who keeps decorations, they had some for Divali and Eid and they have some for Christmas

 

[Muhammad]

and Greetings,

I agree with Woodrow, I am not offended by the decorations. Here, they put up decorations for Diwali, Vasaikhi and Eid as well as Christmas, and they will put them up in places where there are a majority of the respective religion.

 

[England]

I think it's disgusting. We have tinsel around the computer screens at our workplace and as the month draws further there will Christmas posters, invitations and card put up. No-one should be allowed to stop this. It is Christmas. Does the government ban parts of other religious festivals? What about Muslim festivals, Sikh, Judaism? It's the Christians that are being discriminated against. Christians are being discriminated against because of our tolerance. If we went out causing riots, trying to enter the parliament building, killing non-Christians, attempted to assasinate the prime minister then they wouldn't even dream of doing this. It makes me sick and this is what is ruining "Great" Britain. This is something that Spain does not tolerate.

 

[Skillganon]

I lived in England for a long time. Since birth and I do fid this kind of new's quite perplexing.

This articles seem to make it look like it's my fault by being a muslim.

 

[England]

I lived in England for a long time. Since birth and I do fid this kind of new's quite perplexing.

This articles seem to make it look like it's my fault by being a muslim.

You get the few muslims complaining about being offended by Christmas decorations. Obviously to rake in some money, which would be greed.

 

[- Qatada -]

Hi England.


So you're blaming the muslims because the article says so? Can't we say that about any person? What about the guy who attacked the veil? If he's christian, should we start stereotyping all christians to be like that?


Just think about it.



Peace.

 

[Durrah]

I think it's disgusting. We have tinsel around the computer screens at our workplace and as the month draws further there will Christmas posters, invitations and card put up. No-one should be allowed to stop this. It is Christmas. Does the government ban parts of other religious festivals? What about Muslim festivals, Sikh, Judaism? It's the Christians that are being discriminated against. Christians are being discriminated against because of our tolerance. If we went out causing riots, trying to enter the parliament building, killing non-Christians, attempted to assasinate the prime minister then they wouldn't even dream of doing this. It makes me sick and this is what is ruining "Great" Britain. This is something that Spain does not tolerate.

again mate, its the bleeding liberal hearts! This has got nothing to do with other religious minority groups. I can ssure you, most if not all muslim really dont give a hoot what xmas decor you put up, where you hang it and what you celebrate at xmas (even if we disagree with the theological aspects of christinaity or xmas)

Its these silly goverment minisiters, civil servents (again, often english themselves) who take it upon themselves to 'speak' on behalf of the minorties and introduce stupid policies on matters which are completly non issue to minorities.

I understand your anger, but make sure you direct it at the right group of people (the goverment) and not your avergae Sandeep, Mohammed or Benjahmin.

 

[England]

Hi England.


So you're blaming the muslims because the article says so? Can't we say that about any person? What about the guy who attacked the veil? If he's christian, should we start stereotyping all christians to be like that?


Just think about it.



Peace.

I believe I said ***** But my parents are blaming ALL muslims for complaining and the government for discriminating against us. They listen to the media. I'm sure there are more like them. These dipsy left-wingers are causing trouble.

 

[Woodrow]

You get the few muslims complaining about being offended by Christmas decorations. Obviously to rake in some money, which would be greed.

As long as all people are treated equaly and there is no compulsion to put up decorations nor compolsion to stop others from putting up decorations that they choose at the time of the year they choose, there should be no problem. Political correctness can be over done and the desire to prevent the show of any religion becomes an enforced show of no religion.

 

[Cheb]

I think it's disgusting. We have tinsel around the computer screens at our workplace and as the month draws further there will Christmas posters, invitations and card put up. No-one should be allowed to stop this. It is Christmas. Does the government ban parts of other religious festivals? What about Muslim festivals, Sikh, Judaism? It's the Christians that are being discriminated against. Christians are being discriminated against because of our tolerance. If we went out causing riots, trying to enter the parliament building, killing non-Christians, attempted to assasinate the prime minister then they wouldn't even dream of doing this. It makes me sick and this is what is ruining "Great" Britain. This is something that Spain does not tolerate.

Correct me if I am wrong but it seems like you are indirectly blaming Muslims in this post. I believe the problem is somewhere else. Besides I think Christmas ornaments is more of a 'traditional' thing than 'religious'. I dont believe it should offend anyone. Even if it is considered religious, I don’t think people should have a problem with it either.
These things actually create more hostility between different cultures. If they really were thinking of supporting Muslim beliefs witht his ban, they are actually doing the exact opposite. This thread supports what im saying too.

 

[Durrah]

I believe I said But my parents are blaming ALL muslims for complaining and the government for discriminating against us. They listen to the media. I'm sure there are more like them. These dipsy left-wingers are causing trouble.

itrs your job to inform your parents that muslims are not responsible for these actions and not too get sucked into media progandada.

Like i said before, you'd find it very difficult to find a muslim who actually was actively taking steps to ban xmas in the workplace. We many not agree with the whole xmas shebang, but none of us care what you get upto and how you choose to celebrate that.

I remember the Express last year ran this story about how Southwark Council (or Lambeth, cant remember which one) dicthed street xmas lights. Now the Express went into all gung-ho about how this was down to muslims, blach blach blach, but in actual fact that was revealed the council just didnt want to spend the money to put them up- had nothing to do with muslims. Obviosuly though, maximum damage had already been done and many anti muslim sentiments were said, by both press and public- when muslims had no part in it.

So, dont fall into the trap mate and dont let your parents neither.

 

[IbnAbdulHakim]

Peace,


England it also sounds like your getting a bit "sucked uP" as they say by the media. I hope no-one at work takes the same attitude as you or they may act unhappy towards me.

 

[Ibn Abi Ahmed]

Hi England,

I understand this is angering you, but please mind the language

 

[England]

itrs your job to inform your parents that muslims are not responsible for these actions and not too get sucked into media progandada.

Like i said before, you'd find it very difficult to find a muslim who actually was actively taking steps to ban xmas in the workplace. We many not agree with the whole xmas shebang, but none of us care what you get upto and how you choose to celebrate that.

I remember the Express last year ran this story about how Southwark Council (or Lambeth, cant remember which one) dicthed street xmas lights. Now the Express went into all gung-ho about how this was down to muslims, blach blach blach, but in actual fact that was revealed the council just didnt want to spend the money to put them up- had nothing to do with muslims. Obviosuly though, maximum damage had already been done and many anti muslim sentiments were said, by both press and public- when muslims had no part in it.

So, dont fall into the trap mate and dont let your parents neither.

I've had a little discussion with them about things like this mostly since I started coming to this forum. They just say "how come this, how come that.." and I basically don't have answers to convince them.
A few weeks ago I went to watch Manchester Utd v Chelsea with a muslim from work and they knew this. Their words were "be careful, don't go anywhere alone with him." They're paranoid about it and I'm not lying, I swear to God.