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[Sampharo]

You list a lot of accomplishments of Jews and the percentages of those in power. Yes, proportionately they do compromise a larger percentage of certain occupations than the population. Notice, though, that in all of them they are still the minority, so to say that they control everything would be a bit of a misnomer.

The statement was "that is blatantly incorrect, evidenced because of the fact there is only on Jew in the US Cabinet, and not very many Jews in Congress at all."

The fact is that "only one jew" is actually the Chief of Staff, and there are three direct jewish advisors to the cabinet. And the "not very many Jews in Congress at all" is actually 45. That statement sounds like someone calling a car wreck which battery has a small charge as "in operating condition".

Additionally, you're picking the numbers representing the minorities and saying they are all like that. Excuse me: ALL three networks owned by jews is a minority? The largest four film studios that together produce more than 70% of the movies is a minority? Not to mention the largest media chain. Your observation seems to be skewed at best to downplay this, considering that in most UN decisions against Israel when the voting absolute Whole World for and the US of A being the absolute ONLY vote against, it shows "blatantly" who is living an illusion of jews not being in control of American politics and economy.

 

[kamran javed]

I want to die with my forehead on the ground,
The sunnah in my heart,
Allah on my mind,
Quran on my tongue,
And tears in my eyes.

 

[titus]

The fact is that "only one jew" is actually the Chief of Staff, and there are three direct jewish advisors to the cabinet. And the "not very many Jews in Congress at all" is actually 45. That statement sounds like someone calling a car wreck which battery has a small charge as "in operating condition".

I didn't realize the Chief of Staff was the man in charge. 45 Jews in Congress? There are 535 members of Congress, which means they comprise less than 10%? That is not control.

considering that in most UN decisions against Israel when the voting absolute Whole World for and the US of A being the absolute ONLY vote against, it shows "blatantly" who is living an illusion of jews not being in control of American politics and economy.

Only if you believe that only Jews support Israel. That is not the case. Christians in the US that support Israel far outnumber the Jews in the US that support Israel.

 

[Sampharo]

I didn't realize the Chief of Staff was the man in charge. 45 Jews in Congress? There are 535 members of Congress, which means they comprise less than 10%? That is not control.

Yes it is control when there is no other cluster of that size. Like I said it is neither here nor there when both jewish and non-jewish analysts are elated/alarmed at the jewish influence.

Only if you believe that only Jews support Israel. That is not the case. Christians in the US that support Israel far outnumber the Jews in the US that support Israel.

Are you actually thinking to drag the intelligence of this forum down to such claims? Are you trying to say that UN decisions are "democratically" taken from people's unadulterated sentiments and the American public desires that are based on unbiased media, with the poor USA ambassador to the UN is only carrying it out, and that there are no simple direct orders of the executive office and no hammering by jewish lobbies and no effect whatsoever from jews owning all three major TV networks filtering the news delivery, that has no effect?

If the arguments will be this baseless and you will be supporting your arguments in such childish desperation, then there is no more need to debate.

 

[Woodrow]

American politics are a strange animal. It is not a genuine Democratic Process and often can be seen as being a power struggle. there have been several times in my own lifetime that single Congressmen and Senators essentialy controlled the country. I'm thinking of the days of McCarthy, Lyndon Johnson, Everett Dierksen and others. Not necessarly good or bad but they did for all practical purpose run the country from the Congress/Senate floors.

 

[titus]

Yes it is control when there is no other cluster of that size.

Black members of Congress 43.

Catholic - 152

Lawyers - 441

Californians - 55

There are many such clusters, and many that are larger. You can cook up conspiracy theories about how it is really black people, or Catholics, or whatever you want to think that they are running the country.

Are you trying to say that UN decisions are "democratically" taken from people's unadulterated sentiments

No. I have no idea how you got that out of my statement. It's quite a stretch.

I am saying, though, that it is not just Jews in the US that support the existence of Israel. You seem to be under the impression that those poor non-Jewish Americans have been brainwashed by the Jews into supporting Israel. That is not the case. There are a myriad of reasons that they do.

Are you actually thinking to drag the intelligence of this forum down to such claims?

Look at my "claims" again and tell me how I am wrong. Or is it your claim that the number of Jews in the US that support Israel is higher than the number of Christians that do?

 

[Woodrow]

I am saying, though, that it is not just Jews in the US that support the existence of Israel. You seem to be under the impression that those poor non-Jewish Americans have been brainwashed by the Jews into supporting Israel. That is not the case. There are a myriad of reasons that they do.



Look at my "claims" again and tell me how I am wrong. Or is it your claim that the number of Jews in the US that support Israel is higher than the number of Christians that do?

It does seem that it is Zionist Christians who support Israel. Few if any American Jews seem to support it. I believe the Jews that were supporters of Israel have long moved to Israel. I only know a few Jews and the few I know are in Austin and oppose the State of Israel. They were some of the best supporters of the "Palestinian Children's Welfare Fund" and took part in many demonstrations against Israel.

 

[Supreme]

It does seem that it is Zionist Christians who support Israel. Few if any American Jews seem to support it. I believe the Jews that were supporters of Israel have long moved to Israel. I only know a few Jews and the few I know are in Austin and oppose the State of Israel. They were some of the best supporters of the "Palestinian Children's Welfare Fund" and took part in many demonstrations against Israel.

I agree. But hey, Jews (apparantly) run America, so American Jews must support Israel.

 

[Woodrow]

I agree. But hey, Jews (apparantly) run America, so American Jews must support Israel.

I imagine there are American Jews who support Israel. I just have not met any. But the only Jews I have met were Palestinian Jews in Austin and they were very opposed to Israel. Texas has a very small Jewish population and I believe most are Palestinian refugees. There are no Jews in the Dakotas or Western Minnesota, so I have very limited knowledge about American Jews.

 

[Sampharo]

^ No one is claiming that there aren't hordes of zionist christians, yes we know all about their agenda.

Perhaps though you need to consider that Palestinian jews are not the ones controlling the media and film industry, otherwise why would Soros, a holocaust survivor, be doing this, and where is he receiving all this attack from then?

 

[Woodrow]

^ No one is claiming that there aren't hordes of zionist christians, yes we know all about their agenda.

Perhaps though you need to consider that Palestinian jews are not the ones controlling the media and film industry, otherwise why would Soros, a holocaust survivor, be doing this, and where is he receiving all this attack from then?

As I said I am only speaking of Jews I actually know. Out here in the boondocks there is little influence from any media or governmental sources. Most influence here is through AIM (American Indian Movement) although I belong to AIM I am not active as they can be a bit too militant. But I do support the rights of the Lakota and their quest for separation from any US government control.

 

[titus]

I know a number of Jews here in the US, although I rarely ask them about Israel nor do they bring it up. I did date a Jewish girl for little while and I know that she felt that Israel should never have been created.

I know there was a poll that found that a majority of Jewish Americans were against the Iraq War when the majority of Americans were for it and that over 2/3 believe that Israel should dismantle all of its settlements in the West Bank. Jews overwhelmingly voted against Bush also.

The impression that some on these forums have that American Jews are covertly running the US so that they can support Israel is way off the mark. According to personal experience and the polls that I have seen if you want the US to take a harsher stance against Israel then you need more Jews in power here, not less.