US is not at war with Islam, says Barack Obama
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No, I'm not surprised really. InshaAllah he will!
That would make me giggle with happy.
Not so much because of the conversion act itself, but because seeing Ann Coulter, Pat Robertson, etc reactions would be so yummy.
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I think their heads would explode. I may die laughing.
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nut jobs like pat robertson were never the majority in America, even when America was the most dominant force, nut jobs like Pat robertson is what brought America down, he is the same type as Bush and his fellow neocons.
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I can't believe I'm saying this but I agree with almost everything The Prince has to say here.
In fact I was actually going to use "nut jobs like pat robertson" in my response.
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can you plz show us where any of these soldiers believed dooms day was around the corner, can you plz show us where these soldiers make prophecies predicting huge chaos at specific dates etc etc? those soldiers would be quite insulted by you comparing them to pat robertson.
and whats funny is most soldiers in vietnam and korea were young men who didnt even know what they were fighting for, nor did they even want to be fighting there, so its quite funny you use these soldiers as a comparison to robertson, quite hilarious infact.
whats more funny is that ppl like pat robertson say that what happened in ww2 was a punishment from God against the Jews for their rejection.
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Right Obama. Riiiight.
It only invades Muslim countries and supports regimes that kill and oppress Muslims.
Does he think we're stupid? Stop supporting Israel, get your butt outta the mideast, and stop killing Muslims.
It only invades Muslim countries and supports regimes that kill and oppress Muslims.
Does he think we're stupid? Stop supporting Israel, get your butt outta the mideast, and stop killing Muslims.
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What does that have to do with pat robertson?
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Since we're being stupid and simplistic:
I would ask muslims to stop flying planes into buildings, stop blowing up people going on their way to work, stop killing hundreds of thousands of other innocent muslims because they believe in something slightly different, stop blowing up girls schools and flogging and executing people seemingly at random in the street.
Wow, being a moron is so easy.
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Comment by Rami Khouri:
President Barack Obama's speech to Turkey's parliament on Monday was another milestone in what appears to be his continuing attempt to steer the American ship of foreign policy in new directions. He made some important new statements and changes in style, while repeating some silly bad habits and simplistic insults. If he intended to address the Islamic world and signal a more humble, realistic policy toward majority-Islamic countries, he gets high marks for intent and execution, and medium marks for substance.
He reminded us once again of three linked issues: The U.S. has serious problems with some Muslims and some quarters of the Islamic world, and it is trying to acknowledge and redress those problems with a refreshing combination of courage, humility and honesty. But deep structural flaws still exist in achieving this goal.
The most significant thing about Mr. Obama's speech was the disparity between how he addressed all the tough issues that matter to Turkey - European Union admission, Kurdish relations, Armenian history, Cyprus, democratic consolidation, and the South Caucasus states - while offering only soft rhetoric and hollow generalities when speaking about U.S. relations with the Islamic world. Specificity reflects seriousness, generalities hesitation.
Mr. Obama should be commended for tackling these issues but chided for resorting to simplistic nothingness in four areas. The first is his meaningless statement that the U.S. "is not, and will never be, at war with Islam." He might be surprised to learn that Islam is not at war with America or Americans. He would be much better advised to stick to the facts - that a very small number of criminal Muslims attacked the U.S., and that his country is justifiably fighting them. By addressing "Islam" as a protagonist, he recklessly transforms specific quarrels into civilizational, religious and cultural battles.
His second mistake is to speak glowingly of respect for the Islamic faith and all that it has contributed to the world, while always counterframing his words in the context of terrorism and warfare. He should speak, instead, of the rights that individuals and countries expect to enjoy in a world governed by law and mutual commitments to sovereign rights. Muslims don't need a U.S. president to tell them they have a fine cultural heritage; they want to hear that he respects a rule of law applied equally and consistently to all countries, regardless of religion.
His third mistake is that he frames the tensions between some Muslims and some Americans in terms of religious differences, rather than acknowledging that most criticisms of the U.S. in the Arab-Asian heartland of Islam reflect anger with U.S. foreign policy. The problem is not faith, it's foreign policy - specifically, U.S. policies that support Israel or autocrats throughout the Arab-Asian region. By evading these core problems, he ends up flailing for substitute issues to address.
His fourth mistake is to single out Iran as a potential menace for allegedly wanting to develop nuclear weapons, and chiding Iranian leaders as a teacher would children. This totally negates his remarks about wanting to deal with Iran on the basis of "mutual interests and mutual respect."
These criticisms of Mr. Obama's shortcomings should not detract from his commendable change in tone and direction from the horrors of the George Bush years. One intriguing new twist in his remarks was the insistence that Israelis and Palestinians must both honour commitments, change their ways, and make new moves to achieve the goal of two states living side by side in peace and security.
This is not a major new policy - but it does seem like another small shift toward repositioning the U.S. as a credible mediator seeking to work simultaneously for the rights and best interests of both Israelis and Palestinians. Rarely has a U.S. president spoken so clearly about both Israelis and Palestinians needing to change their ways to achieve peace.
We have here only vague hints couched in nice rhetoric, but they are intriguing hints that should be watched for signs of policies that affirm them. Large ships adjust their course slowly and incrementally. Mr. Obama turned the wheel a few degrees in Turkey this week.
Rami Khouri is editor-at-large of the Beirut-based Daily Star, and director of the Issam Fares Institute for Public Policy and International Affairs at the American University of Beirut.
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President Barack Obama's speech to Turkey's parliament on Monday was another milestone in what appears to be his continuing attempt to steer the American ship of foreign policy in new directions. He made some important new statements and changes in style, while repeating some silly bad habits and simplistic insults. If he intended to address the Islamic world and signal a more humble, realistic policy toward majority-Islamic countries, he gets high marks for intent and execution, and medium marks for substance.
He reminded us once again of three linked issues: The U.S. has serious problems with some Muslims and some quarters of the Islamic world, and it is trying to acknowledge and redress those problems with a refreshing combination of courage, humility and honesty. But deep structural flaws still exist in achieving this goal.
The most significant thing about Mr. Obama's speech was the disparity between how he addressed all the tough issues that matter to Turkey - European Union admission, Kurdish relations, Armenian history, Cyprus, democratic consolidation, and the South Caucasus states - while offering only soft rhetoric and hollow generalities when speaking about U.S. relations with the Islamic world. Specificity reflects seriousness, generalities hesitation.
Mr. Obama should be commended for tackling these issues but chided for resorting to simplistic nothingness in four areas. The first is his meaningless statement that the U.S. "is not, and will never be, at war with Islam." He might be surprised to learn that Islam is not at war with America or Americans. He would be much better advised to stick to the facts - that a very small number of criminal Muslims attacked the U.S., and that his country is justifiably fighting them. By addressing "Islam" as a protagonist, he recklessly transforms specific quarrels into civilizational, religious and cultural battles.
His second mistake is to speak glowingly of respect for the Islamic faith and all that it has contributed to the world, while always counterframing his words in the context of terrorism and warfare. He should speak, instead, of the rights that individuals and countries expect to enjoy in a world governed by law and mutual commitments to sovereign rights. Muslims don't need a U.S. president to tell them they have a fine cultural heritage; they want to hear that he respects a rule of law applied equally and consistently to all countries, regardless of religion.
His third mistake is that he frames the tensions between some Muslims and some Americans in terms of religious differences, rather than acknowledging that most criticisms of the U.S. in the Arab-Asian heartland of Islam reflect anger with U.S. foreign policy. The problem is not faith, it's foreign policy - specifically, U.S. policies that support Israel or autocrats throughout the Arab-Asian region. By evading these core problems, he ends up flailing for substitute issues to address.
His fourth mistake is to single out Iran as a potential menace for allegedly wanting to develop nuclear weapons, and chiding Iranian leaders as a teacher would children. This totally negates his remarks about wanting to deal with Iran on the basis of "mutual interests and mutual respect."
These criticisms of Mr. Obama's shortcomings should not detract from his commendable change in tone and direction from the horrors of the George Bush years. One intriguing new twist in his remarks was the insistence that Israelis and Palestinians must both honour commitments, change their ways, and make new moves to achieve the goal of two states living side by side in peace and security.
This is not a major new policy - but it does seem like another small shift toward repositioning the U.S. as a credible mediator seeking to work simultaneously for the rights and best interests of both Israelis and Palestinians. Rarely has a U.S. president spoken so clearly about both Israelis and Palestinians needing to change their ways to achieve peace.
We have here only vague hints couched in nice rhetoric, but they are intriguing hints that should be watched for signs of policies that affirm them. Large ships adjust their course slowly and incrementally. Mr. Obama turned the wheel a few degrees in Turkey this week.
Rami Khouri is editor-at-large of the Beirut-based Daily Star, and director of the Issam Fares Institute for Public Policy and International Affairs at the American University of Beirut.
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In my perspective I think everyone has high expectations for President Barack Obama ,in four possibly eight years he will have to improve relations with countries someway or another because President George W Bush really put Barack in a heap of trouble and I think Obama is really trying to fix the corrupted countries policy and pride.In order for that to happen Obama needs to accomplish these small/big things which could ease the pain of the next president.
Next I think Obama should track down Canada and improve it's economy. It's really hard living here and earning minimum wage right now. The two top countries have fallen into corruption and have low economy ,most people are getting fired. But only Barack Obama can fix this other ten Stephen harper the prime minister of Canada.
Next I think Obama should track down Canada and improve it's economy. It's really hard living here and earning minimum wage right now. The two top countries have fallen into corruption and have low economy ,most people are getting fired. But only Barack Obama can fix this other ten Stephen harper the prime minister of Canada.
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Hundreds of thousands of other Muslims? I think you're getting Israel and the US confused with Al-Qaeda.
Why shouldn't we see it as a war against Islam when the main casualties of the war are Muslim and the regimes the US props up hate them?
But flying into individual buildings/killing people on the way to work is nothing compared to bombing a whole country to the stone age and torturing people overseas after taking them from their families unexpectedly.
You're on the losing side Gator. Al-Qaeda hasnt done even 1% as much damage as the US and its allies.
I had said something rude but decided just to edit it. So when I edited it I said "never mind" that's all