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Eight defendants have been acquitted of manslaughter in the case of a teenager who died after being punched and kicked at a Florida boot camp.

 Martin Lee Anderson, 14, died a day after the beating was administered by guards at the camp in January 2006.

A jury took only 90 minutes to decide the seven instructors and one nurse at the Bay County boot camp in north-west Florida were not guilty of his death.

Video tape shows the teenager being hit and dragged about by the guards.

 Speaking after the not guilty verdict, the family's lawyer told journalists: "You kill a dog, you go to jail - you kill a little black boy and nothing happens."

Had the all-white jury found the eight defendants guilty, they could have faced up to 30 years in jail.



http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7042858.stm


Black man still oppressed and facing injustice, that's western equality and democracy :hmm:



(p.s. can mod move this to world affairs when it opens)
 
How is one case representative of a system that is different in every democratic country?

That said, there's something fishy about the article
 
I still consider the BBC to be one of the most unbiased news sources around, Islambard.

In what way do you find the article fishy?
This is fishy news!
 
It is the individuals that make the whole and run the 'democracy' how the 'majority' rules however isn't always in favor of justice!... this is actually an article that has made it to more than one news station and was on AOL just yesterday brutual disgusting pictures we are so accustomed to seeing people tortured because they 'deserve it' the the whole of humanity is becoming desensitized... I fail to see what is fishy about it? other than the insufferable insolence toward human life!
 
islamirama said:
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Black man still oppressed and facing injustice, that's western equality and democracy :hmm:
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no doubt, you will be proving this in your next post by providing statistical data.

It would also be helpful if you could show us that we the black men receive better standard of justice in countries run by black men
 
No media is completely neutral - they all have their own bias. But I still trust the BBC more that others.
 
NoName55 said:
no doubt, you will be proving this in your next post by providing statistical data.

It would also be helpful if you could show us that we the black men receive better standard of justice in countries run by black men
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apparently you don't live in the US to see incidents and things over a period of time that add up or show a pattern of abuse and injustice black man feels let alone any other minority.

You wouldn't know anything about rodney king, about another black man (can't recall the name) who suffered the same fate, of white police shooting blacks at katrina for stealing food to survive and beating a black teacher up for no reason (try searching youtube). There's also a Mexican guy that was illegal and running from cops, news chapter caught it from top. 5 big fat white guys beating the crap out of this guy with sticks for running.

Let's not forget the biggest children/women prison in tx for illegal immigrants or asylum seekers, they are put in jails till their case is heard unlike other countries. There was a big protest on this, i'm sure you can find pictures online for that too.

It's easy to demand statistical data and other such silly things which don't mean a thing when you live in white man society that doesn't care to gather info on such stuff.
 
islamirama said:
apparently you don't live in the US to see incidents and things over a period of time that add up or show a pattern of abuse and injustice black man feels let alone any other minority.

You wouldn't know anything about rodney king, about another black man (can't recall the name) who suffered the same fate, of white police shooting blacks at katrina for stealing food to survive and beating a black teacher up for no reason (try searching youtube). There's also a Mexican guy that was illegal and running from cops, news chapter caught it from top. 5 big fat white guys beating the crap out of this guy with sticks for running.

Let's not forget the biggest children/women prison in tx for illegal immigrants or asylum seekers, they are put in jails till their case is heard unlike other countries. There was a big protest on this, i'm sure you can find pictures online for that too.

It's easy to demand statistical data and other such silly things which don't mean a thing when you live in white man society that doesn't care to gather info on such stuff.
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in other words you are full of bile and hatred and enjoy spreading it around.

thanx for a "brill" reply

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private reply for this post from hate teaching troll

10-13-2007 11:36 PM islamirama Don't mistake your ignorance as other's "bile and hatred" view on world
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Do you ever notice some people always leave out critical information to stear the reader to there desired conclusion? :-\
But giving testimony during the trial, two doctors told the court the death was attributable to an undiagnosed blood disorder which the instructors could not have known about.
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Well, maybe the doctors where white. :uuh:
 
We already discussed this in the PM you sent me back then...

wilberhum said:
Do you ever notice some people always leave out critical information to stear the reader to there desired conclusion? :-\

Well, maybe the doctors where white. :uuh:
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The intent of my post was to show the brutal treatment of the guy by the authorities, regardless of any medical history. And my point still stands, look at all the cases i mentioned. Prejudice is still alive and minority is still getting the short end of the stick, Maybe only whites don't see this...or don't want to.
 
islamirama said:
We already discussed this in the PM you sent me back then...

The intent of my post was to show the brutal treatment of the guy by the authorities, regardless of any medical history. And my point still stands, look at all the cases i mentioned. Prejudice is still alive and minority is still getting the short end of the stick, Maybe only whites don't see this...or don't want to.
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The PM was not public. The only reason I PM'ed was because I could not post.

To me the intent of your post was to distort by not stating evidence.

But, of course preduice is still alive. It is alive every place in the entire world.
In some places it is racial, in some it is religious, and others have other reasons.

There is in fact many in the US that are raceists.
This is not the case in this instance.
Your lack of balanced in the post is what makes it look racial. :thumbs_do
 
NoName55 said:
he did thru negative rep like you used to long time ago
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I kinda gave up giving negative reps.
Now I give positive reps with negative statements.

But then you know that.

Mean while back at the ranch and back on topic.

What the guards did to Martin Anderson was too much.
I think they are guilty of abuse but surly not murder.
Mostly I'm on this for the distration presented.
There are reasons it only took 90 minutes to come to a verdict.
It wasn't racial and it wasn't murder.
Do you know one of the gurads charged was black?
Do you know he was there for violating probation?
He was on probation for car theft.
He was at a "Camp" that tries to straighten out juvenile criminals.
He was no sweet little inocent kid.

I don't deney there are racial problems, but there are whose that want to point to race for every thing.

I just don't see race as a cause in this case.
 
wilberhum said:
The PM was not public. The only reason I PM'ed was because I could not post.

To me the intent of your post was to distort by not stating evidence.

But, of course preduice is still alive. It is alive every place in the entire world.
In some places it is racial, in some it is religious, and others have other reasons.

There is in fact many in the US that are raceists.
This is not the case in this instance.
Your lack of balanced in the post is what makes it look racial. :thumbs_do
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It is a racial issue as i showed it. It doesn't matter whether the person was ill or not. The question here is of the treatment he got, had he been white i doubt they would have been as generous in treating him like a dog and beating him so barbarically.

NoName55 said:
he sent me a hate message because I dared to ask a question
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One you deserved very well so, which you also were so eager to post on the thread for everyone to see. Before you call other trolls, check your own self kido.
 
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