What do you think about Muslim leaders?

What do you think about Muslim leaders?

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i think they are a reflection of the ummah in general.
i know we like to complain about them so much but then looking at the ummah as a whole we are all the same.. in different ways.

if we want a change we have to change ourselves
 
amani said:
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i think they are a reflection of the ummah in general.
i know we like to complain about them so much but then looking at the ummah as a whole we are all the same.. in different ways.

if we want a change we have to change ourselves
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How can we change ... if we are being 'controlled'?
 
north_malaysian said:
How can we change ... if we are being 'controlled'?
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how are we being *controlled*

we need to get back on the Quraan and Sunnah. no ones stopping us doing that.
we need to get the people around us doing the same.
when we change ourselves we will see a change in leadership.
a ruler cant be right and just and his people totally wanting western ways and totally uneducated in the deen.
im not saying those rulers today are justified or whatever im saying stop complaining about them because thats not gonna do anything, concentrate on how we can be better
 
lets make du'aa for our muslim leaders, one of the salaf said if i was told to make du3aa for only one person in the world, it would be a leader, they asked him why? he replied, because a good leader has an effect on everyone...his khayr reaches everywhere
and as the prophet alayhi salaatu wassalaam said" la tu3een akhaaka 3ala ashaytaan"
don't help the shaytaan against your brother...
du3aa is powerful, lets use it...
 
amani said:
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how are we being *controlled*

we need to get back on the Quraan and Sunnah. no ones stopping us doing that.
we need to get the people around us doing the same.
when we change ourselves we will see a change in leadership.
a ruler cant be right and just and his people totally wanting western ways and totally uneducated in the deen.
im not saying those rulers today are justified or whatever im saying stop complaining about them because thats not gonna do anything, concentrate on how we can be better
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we need a khalifah, Thats what we need !!
 
amani said:
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how are we being *controlled*

we need to get back on the Quraan and Sunnah. no ones stopping us doing that.
we need to get the people around us doing the same.
when we change ourselves we will see a change in leadership.
a ruler cant be right and just and his people totally wanting western ways and totally uneducated in the deen.
im not saying those rulers today are justified or whatever im saying stop complaining about them because thats not gonna do anything, concentrate on how we can be better
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I dont know about your country .... but in my country, we are being 'controlled'...... to change the current government ... is like ..... very hard....

Plus in recent poll ONLY 18% want Islamic state.
 
assalaamu alaykum,

most of them are kaffirs, they have rejected the deen and chose to rule by other than shariah and should be forced to repent or be removed.

assalaamu alaykum,
Daw'ud
 
north_malaysian said:
I dont know about your country .... but in my country, we are being 'controlled'...... to change the current government ... is like ..... very hard....

Plus in recent poll ONLY 18% want Islamic state.
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18%
that says alot

with regards to khalifa- the best example of setting up an islamic state is look how Muhammed :arabic5: did it. after the hearts of the muslims of madinah were steong for islam, after He :arabic5: had sent the sahabah to teach them about islam, he then moved to Madinah today we need to work on our hearts first!
 
assalaamu alaykum,

on the one hand a righteous ruler could help change matters massively for the better so people cry out 'khilafa!' all the time, little realising it has to be worked for and fought for if necessary.

others say why talk about the rulers when we are all corrupt ourselves?
pointed out that in islam we are taught that Allah never changed the condition of a people until they change themselves.

the answer is surely the middle path however,
we need to stop thinking that by holding conferences on khilafa we will have much effort or that the corrupt rulers should be left in place,

we need to work on both paths at once, trying to remove the corrupt rulers and reform the people at once and not expecting one to necessarily fix the other but that we need to support one with the other but both need working on.

assalaamu alaykum,
Daw'ud
 
Dawud_uk said:
assalaamu alaykum,

we need to work on both paths at once, trying to remove the corrupt rulers and reform the people at once and not expecting one to necessarily fix the other but that we need to support one with the other but both need working on.

assalaamu alaykum,
Daw'ud
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Agreed but i think Ahmedinejad is extremely brave, cant we just turn him pious or something and appoint him khalifa?

PS: I know this is just talk, but if you think about it with the will of Allah its possible...
 
Mazed said:
Agreed but i think Ahmedinejad is extremely brave, cant we just turn him pious or something and appoint him khalifa?

PS: I know this is just talk, but if you think about it with the will of Allah its possible...
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assalaamu alaykum,

he is talking a good talk i admit, but at the moment other than backing up the lebonese shi'a what else has he done?

he is also a rafadi shi'a, they're beliefs are kufr and once again they are not ruling iran by shariah but a mixture of shi'a religious rulings, tribal custom and secular law.

he is one of the better of a bad lot and insha'allah he changes for the better but he came to the mainstream jammat of islam and wanted to rule by pure shariah how long do you think he would last before he was killed?

assalaamu alaykum,
Daw'ud
 
Dawud_uk said:
assalaamu alaykum,

he is one of the better of a bad lot and insha'allah he changes for the better but he came to the mainstream jammat of islam and wanted to rule by pure shariah how long do you think he would last before he was killed?

assalaamu alaykum,
Daw'ud
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Well if a khalifa is actually established and pledges are taken the the protection of the ummah would befall him. But thats "ASSUMING" He returns to Ahlal sunnah and sunnah ALONE !

What can harm you when your the ummah once more?
 
assalaamu alaykum,

you are forgetting there is already an 'Amir al-mumineen' and we should all be offering him our support and aid if we possibly can, even if all we can give are our du'as

assalaamu alaykum,
Daw'ud
 
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As sister amani said we should work on our hearts first !! We should change ourselves before we can change others, like my local Imam said in a muhaadara (lecture) "A change will not come down from the sab3a samawaat, you should change yourselves first"

How can we change ... if we are being 'controlled'?
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Brother north_malaysian you should read this Ayah in Surat Ar-Ra3d:

Inna Allaha la yughayyiru ma bi qaumin 7atta yughayyiru ma bi anfusihim

The translation of the Ayah is: “Allaah will not change the condition of a people as long as they do not change their state themselves.” (Ar-Ra‘d: 11).

lets make du'aa for our muslim leaders, one of the salaf said if i was told to make du3aa for only one person in the world, it would be a leader, they asked him why? he replied, because a good leader has an effect on everyone...his khayr reaches everywhere
and as the prophet alayhi salaatu wassalaam said" la tu3een akhaaka 3ala ashaytaan"
don't help the shaytaan against your brother...
du3aa is powerful, lets use it....
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Very good point sister umm-sulaim

You can read this khutbah by Shaykh Huthayfi for more information

http://www.alminbar.com/khutbaheng/2290.htm

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yeah i agree the fact we need to change ourselves, and i think the muslim leaders should aswell, and then establish a proper islamic state

ma'salamah
 

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