What is a bad person? (according to islam)

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Dear Sir,

What I understand from your replies is this:

1. Even if a person commits most henious crimes like murder and theft, if he or she repents in the end, Allah may choose to send that person to heaven.
2. Even if a person is NOT Muslim, but lives a pious life and believes in God (of his religion), allah may still choose to send him to the heaven. I do not think any other Muslim schloar will agree with this assertion of yours. What I have believed so far is that according to Islam only those who are Muslims will go to heaven, and none else.

Kindly cofirm these conclusions of mine as I would like to use them as reference points elsewhere.

Bandoo
 
bandoo said:
Dear Sir,

What I understand from your replies is this:

1. Even if a person commits most henious crimes like murder and theft, if he or she repents in the end, Allah may choose to send that person to heaven.
2. Even if a person is NOT Muslim, but lives a pious life and believes in God (of his religion), allah may still choose to send him to the heaven. I do not think any other Muslim schloar will agree with this assertion of yours. What I have believed so far is that according to Islam only those who are Muslims will go to heaven, and none else.

Kindly cofirm these conclusions of mine as I would like to use them as reference points elsewhere.

Bandoo
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I wish to add some further points:

(a) What about the Muslim suicide bombers? They kill hundreds of innocent people who are not their direct enemies or even anti-Islam. In the process they also blow-up themselves and don't get even a second to repent for their inhuman act. Will such people be allowed by Allah to enter Heaven?
(b) Also what about the victims of attacks by the suicide bombers? Will only the Muslims among those killed will be allowed to go to heaven or others will also be allowed because they were killed for no fault of theirs?

Bandoo
 
Hi bandoo.


Please don't take offence to what i said earlier to Truthseeker, because he came on the forum to promote his own religion, in which he says that 'he is god' - hence i deleted his post. We're not afraid to counter his arguments, but if them arguments have no basis or no proof/evidences - then there isn't really much to discuss or debate.

Referring to your second point - we don't have any islamic scholars on this forum whatsoever, and if there are any knowledgable people - they may be the students of knowledge, and there aren't much of those here either.



Let's go to your questions now.

1. A person may have done many crimes/sins within their life, and Allaah Almighty knows that a person can fall into that when a person is ignorant of the truth or away from the guidance. But once the person realises his/her mistakes and finds the truth - they may repent to Allaah Almighty while regretting what they have done, hence Allaah Almighty can choose to forgive that person due to their sincerety.


"Verily, Allah forgives not that partners should be ascribed to Him in worship, but He forgives except that (anything else) to whom He pleases; and whoever ascribes partners to Allah in worship, has indeed invented a tremendous sin."
(Qur'an: Translation of the meaning, 4:48)​


This leads to your second question, which is to believe in Allaah Almighty and then submit to the way of Allaah Almighty.

The biggest sin a person can ever commit is that they worship others besides their Creator, and their Creator is God - Allaah.

No matter how good the person is, and even if the person does believe there is a higher Being i.e. God - they still have to believe in Laa illaaha illAllaah (there is none worthy of worship except God/Allaah (alone.)) And this message has always been the message since the beginning of mankind, and every messenger that came told the people to follow this, but man kept going astray.


Believing that no-one is worthy of worship except Allaah means that people have to give up other deities besides Allaah Almighty (i.e. idols, humans i.e. Jesus [peace be upon him], or even a form of law besides the law of Allaah Almighty, which may be taking the laws of someone who governs in a way that opposes the commandments of God in the Qur'an [the speech of Allaah Almighty] and Sunnah [ways of Allaah Almighty's messenger])

If a person takes these ideoligies as a way of life instead of submitting themselves to Allaah Almighty (i.e. muslim means submitter and islam means submission) - they may be taking others as associates with Allaah Almighty because they are accepting a man made law instead of the divine law which Allaah Almighty revealed to mankind in the Qur'an and Sunnah.


Therefore, the above example may be a form associating partners with Allaah Almighty and the person may be commiting the biggest sin that ever exists - & that is associating others as partners with Allaah Almighty, because the person feels that the man made law is superior to the law of Allaah Almighty, and this is why they may be following it.


If a person believes in the above two examples, then they also have to believe in Allaah Almighty and His Attributes (Asma - wal-Sifaa.) This is believing in Allaah Almighty being the Perfect Being, and believing in the meanings of the names of Allaah which are mentioned in the Qur'an i.e.



If one grasps these 3 ideas of Tawheed (the Oneness of God) - then they have believed in Laaillaaha illAllaah (there is none worthy of worship except Allaah.) And hence they should believe that the Qur'an is the word of Allaah Almighty, and Muhammad (peace be upon him) is God's/Allaah Almighty's final messenger.

If the person believes this and obeys Allaah Almighty in this, then they are muslim (submitters) to God. However this is just a small summary, so you may want to ask for more info. if you're interested.


Allaah Almighty knows best.


If theres any mistakes, its from myself and my sins - all good comes from Allaah Almighty.


Peace.​



Referring to your second part of the question, I feel that you should really read this:

A Culture of Suicide?
http://www.islamonline.net/English/Views/2004/04/article08.shtml

main link:
http://islamonline.net/english/intifada/palestine-special/index.shtml



If you have any more questions - please do ask. :)


Allaah Almighty knows best.


Peace.
 
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One problem is what definition of bad and good are we all thinking of.

Here are Webster's definitions

Bad


Definition: Bad
Bad
Adjective
1. Having undesirable or negative qualities; "a bad report card"; "his sloppy appearance made a bad impression"; "a bad little boy"; "clothes in bad shape"; "a bad cut"; "bad luck"; "the news was very bad"; "the reviews were bad"; "the pay is bad"; "it was a bad light for reading"; "the movie was a bad choice".

2. Very intense; "a bad headache"; "in a big rage"; "had a big (or bad) shock"; "a bad earthquake"; "a bad storm".

3. Feeling physical discomfort or pain; "my throat feels bad"; "she felt bad all over"; ('tough' is occasionally used colloquially for `bad' as in "he was feeling tough after a restless night").

4. (of foodstuffs) not in an edible or usable condition; "bad meat"; "a refrigerator full of spoilt food".

5. Not capable of being collected; "a bad (or uncollectible) debt".

6. Below average in quality or performance; "a bad chess player"; "a bad recital".

7. (linguistics; informal) "so-called bad grammar".

8. Not financially safe or secure; "a bad investment"; "high risk investments"; "anything that promises to pay too much can't help being risky"; "speculative business enterprises".

9. Physically unsound or diseased; "has a bad back"; "a bad heart"; "bad teeth"; "an unsound limb"; "unsound teeth".

10. : capable of harming; "bad habits"; "bad air"; "smoking is bad for you".

11. : keenly sorry or regretful; "felt bad about letting the team down"; "was sorry that she had treated him so badly"; "felt bad about breaking the vase".

12. : characterized by wickedness or immorality; "led a very bad life".

13. : reproduced fraudulently; "like a bad penny..."; "a forged twenty dollar bill".

14. : not working properly; "a bad telephone connection"; "a defective appliance".

Adverb
1. With great intensity; "the injury hurt badly"; "the buildings were badly shaken"; (`bad' is a nonstandard variant for `badly' as in "it hurts bad" or "we need water bad").

2. Very much; strongly; "I wanted it badly enough to work hard for it"; "the cables had sagged badly"; "they were badly in need of help"; "he wants a bicycle so bad he can taste it".

Noun
1. That which is below standard or expectations as of ethics or decency: "take the bad with the good".

Source: WordNet 1.7.1 Copyright © 2001 by Princeton University. All rights reserved.




Good


Definition: Good
Good
Adjective
1. Having desirable or positive qualities especially those suitable for a thing specified; "good news from the hospital"; "a good report card"; "when she was good she was very very good"; "a good knife is one good for cutting"; "this stump will make a good picnic table"; "a good check"; "a good joke"; "a good exterior paint"; "a good secretary"; "a good dress for the office".

2. Having the normally expected amount; "gives full measure"; "gives good measure"; "a good mile from here".

3. Morally admirable.

4. Deserving of esteem and respect; "all respectable companies give guarantees"; "ruined the family's good name".

5. Promoting or enhancing well-being; "an arms limitation agreement beneficial to all countries"; "the beneficial effects of a temperate climate"; "the experience was good for her".

6. Superior to the average; "in fine spirits"; "a fine student"; "made good grades"; "morale was good"; "had good weather for the parade".

7. Agreeable or pleasing; "we all had a good time"; "good manners".

8. Of moral excellence; "a genuinely good person"; "a just cause"; "an upright and respectable man"; "the life of the nation is secure only while the nation is honest, truthful, and virtuous"- Frederick Douglass.

9. Having or showing knowledge and skill and aptitude; "adept in handicrafts"; "an adept juggler"; "an expert job"; "a good mechanic"; "a practiced marksman"; "a proficient engineer"; "a lesser-known but no less skillful composer"; "the effect was achieved by skillful retouching".

10. : thorough; "had a good workout"; "gave the house a good cleaning".

11. : with or in a close or intimate relationship; "a good friend"; "my sisters and brothers are near and dear".

12. : having or showing or arising from a desire to promote the welfare or happiness of others; "his benevolent smile"; "a benevolent nature".

13. : financially sound; "a good investment"; "a secure investment".

14. : most suitable or right for a particular purpose; "a good time to plant tomatoes"; "the right time to act"; "the time is ripe for great sociological changes".

15. : resulting favorably; "its a good thing that I wasn't there"; "it is good that you stayed"; "it is well that no one saw you"; "all's well that ends well".

16. : exerting force or influence; "the law is effective immediately"; "a warranty good for two years"; "the law is already in effect (or in force)".

17. : used of clothing; "my good clothes"; "her Sunday-go-to-meeting clothes".

18. : feeling healthy and free of aches and pains; "I feel good".

19. : capable of pleasing; "good looks".

20. : appealing to the mind; "good music"; "a serious book".

21. : in excellent physical condition; "good teeth"; "I still have one good leg"; "a sound mind in a sound body".

22. : tending to promote physical well-being; beneficial to health; "beneficial effects of a balanced diet"; "a good night's sleep"; "the salutary influence of pure air".

23. : not forged; "a good dollar bill".

24. : not left to spoil; "the meat is still good".

25. : generally admired; "good taste".

Adverb
1. (often used as a combining form) in a good or proper or satisfactory manner or to a high standard; "the children behaved well"; "a task well done"; "the party went well"; "he slept well"; "a well-argued thesis"; "a well-planned party"; (`good' is a nonstandard dialectal variant for `well' as in "the baby can walk pretty good").

2. In a complete and thorough manner; "he was soundly defeated"; (`good' is used informally for `thoroughly' as in "we beat him good").

Noun
1. Benefit; "for your own good"; "what's the good of worrying?".

2. Moral excellence or admirableness: "there is much good to be found in people".

3. That which is good or valuable or useful: "weigh the good against the bad"; "among the highest goods of all are happiness and self-realization".

Source: WordNet 1.7.1 Copyright © 2001 by Princeton University. All rights reserved.

I can not hink of any Arabic word in the Qur'an which would meet all of the same definitions there are for Good and Bad. However there are words that would come close to be equated with some if not all of them, so in answer to the origianal question I would say that Islam teaches Good and Bad people can be found among all people.
 

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