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mashallah, the ummah is getting united and at least talking about gaza but what about all the other suffering muslims?

why have we not marched on the ethiopian embassy for their actions in somalia, calling for a boycott of supermarkets selling ethiopian coffee and vegetables?

why do we not weep tears and make du'a for the people of afghanistan, and do all we can to stop the british and US military (within what is allowed by the covenant of security) and hold direct action in the west to stop the oppression there?

why do most muslims not even know where chechnya is on a map nevermind know there is a conflict there where the russian military has killed huge sections of the population for rising up and wanting shariah?

why is gaza such a cause for concern where as these other conflicts dont bring out anywhere near as much emotion and action from the muslims of the world?

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Even you are being selective. On average, as many muslims as have been killed in Gaza in the last fortnight have been killed every fortnight in Darfur for the last five years. Yet nobody seems to care.
 
Because we all know this has been going on for over 60 years and the Arabs have done nothing to help their fellow people. All they've been doing is bowing down to the Americans. Shame on them

Palestine is a concentration camp
 
So that's a reason to ignore a massacre of between 200,000 and 400,000 muslims that is still going on?!
 
Trumble said:
So that's a reason to ignore a massacre of between 200,000 and 400,000 muslims that is still going on?!
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I didnt say i was ignoring anyone...:rollseyes

Seems like you have a problem with us muslims judging by every single post you make is against us
 
Is this a thread on Darfur?
if you want to divert the attention -- I am sure it would be easy for you to start a thread of your chosen grievances!
 
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Greetings and peace be with you Dawud_uk;

About thirty thousand children die needlessly from grinding poverty and preventable disease each and every single day.

Should we be selective and say that we will only help the Christian children starving to death every day?

Or does justice demand that we help any child regardless of their religion, colour, or nationality? Why can’t Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists and atheists work together to end world poverty?

We can send men to the moon, we can build amazingly complex machines, mankind has a great intelligence. So why are we so stupid paying billions of dollars every year to fight people when that same money could help people end poverty, injustice and so put an end to wars,

In the spirit of praying for justice for all people, in the spirit of remembering that we are all created by the same God, regardless of our differences

Eric
 
Why do we only have tears for Gaza?

Not that we should lessen our tears for Gaza, we should know that for each tear we shed for Gaza we should also shed a river of tears for all other Muslims that are suffering.

After we count our tears we should look and see who else should we be shedding tears for.
 
Its hard to do anything else but cry and fill our hearts with sorrow. All the else we can do is make dua and maybe donate a couple of items or a few dollars.
 
AsSalamOAlaikum WaRehmatuAllah WaBarkatuhu

We should cry for any of the suffereing of our Ummah. We should do all we can for our brothers and sisters. imsad

The answer to the question is...

Gaza needs our immediate attention.

"Watering the plant, is a very good deed, but not when your the house is on fire"​

May Allah make use hold firm to our obligation. Ameen

FiAmaaniAllah
 
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to answer a few points,

yes, the poor and oppressed the world over deserve our support and help, including those in dafur (da meaning place, fur being one of the major tribes there).

dafur is a dirty nasty war, precisely because the sudanese government does not practice shariah which is why some of the groups there are fighting, for a more just equatable less arab nationalistic shariah based rule.

and gaza is in immediate need but so are the people who are going to freeze to death in afghanistan and pakistan this winter, so are those tortured, raped and murdered in chechnya.

all in immediate need, they are in immediate need in somalia and have been for decades, but where are the marches? where are the buckets being passed around for them?

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Argon Gossamer said:
Is this a thread on Darfur?
if you want to divert the attention -- I am sure it would be easy for you to start a thread of your chosen grievances!
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Perhaps you should take the trouble to read the first post. It is a thread asking why so much less concern is shown about the violent death of muslims in other conflicts around the world than it is for those in Gaza. Clearly Darfur is such a conflict.
 
Trumble said:
Perhaps you should take the trouble to read the first post. It is a thread asking why so much less concern is shown about the violent death of muslims in other conflicts around the world than it is for those in Gaza. Clearly Darfur is such a conflict.
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i agree trumble,

you are correct but there were other conflicts i could have mentioned also, i was not saying these conflicts are alone in needing our attention, rather drawing attention to them as an example.
 
Najm said:
We should cry for any of the suffereing of our Ummah. We should do all we can for our brothers and sisters. imsad
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I don't know if you mean it this way, but statement like these, which are widespread here, sound very exclusive. As if only the suffering of fellow Muslims is worth crying for. Again, you might not mean it that way, but it certainly is the impression you get from this post, even from this thread overall.

I understand that as a human you have to set priorities and its impossible to shed tears for everyone, but at a rational level, surely we know that every stranger that is suffering deserves equal pity.
 
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I don't know if you mean it this way, but statement like these, which are widespread here, sound very exclusive. As if only the suffering of fellow Muslims is worth crying for. Again, you might not mean it that way, but it certainly is the impression you get from this post, even from this thread overall.

I understand that as a human you have to set priorities and its impossible to shed tears for everyone, but at a rational level, surely we know that every stranger that is suffering deserves equal pity.
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Everyone apart from the terrorist Israelis.

Also, with all due respect... This is an Islamic Forum, of course we are going to feel pain for our own brothers and sisters

May Allah SWT ease the suffering of All muslims and guide the misguided. Ameen
 
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We've not forgotten our other brothers and sisters who are suffering. They are remembered in our du'aas along with Gaza, may Allaah help them all. :'(

n the practical steps we take to help Gaza, will also help them too. n tears are not enough. Our brothers and sisters who are suffering don't need our helpless tears .... they need us to pull our socks up n start acting ....! :bump:
 
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Theres a lot of people collecting donations for the Gaza conflict, today in our mosque some guy announced for donations and I cud see people donating generously, it turns out that donation was for the mosque, to my shock the guy collecting for palestine was then stood outside asking for collection. i dont think the mosque committee shud have taken advantage of the situation like that but theres ignorant fools everywhere.
The other thing about the donations is I think a lot of people are exploiting the situation, as theres not much aid being let in so wheres all this money going to, i fear the worse into greedy and sly peoples pockets.
Allah knws best, if people are doing such things they are only making their akhira bad.
 
Dawud_uk said:
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mashallah, the ummah is getting united and at least talking about gaza but what about all the other suffering muslims?

why have we not marched on the ethiopian embassy for their actions in somalia, calling for a boycott of supermarkets selling ethiopian coffee and vegetables?

why do we not weep tears and make du'a for the people of afghanistan, and do all we can to stop the british and US military (within what is allowed by the covenant of security) and hold direct action in the west to stop the oppression there?

why do most muslims not even know where chechnya is on a map nevermind know there is a conflict there where the russian military has killed huge sections of the population for rising up and wanting shariah?

why is gaza such a cause for concern where as these other conflicts dont bring out anywhere near as much emotion and action from the muslims of the world?

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Im sorry to say this but i personally believe its to do with insitutional racism and predjudices within the Islamic faith.
Arabs do tend to see themselves as more important and any genocide or large scale dying of African Muslims does not seem to garnish the same amount of publicity a Arab dying does.