Why the Christian Bible is not the same as the Tanakh (don't quote it for jews)

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Salaam,

And by the way,just as you rpesume that i hate you now presume that i stereo type..

Can you tell me how do you see you in me?

And when i argue and speak about what i think..it is irrelevant..i wodner whose words then i should mouth ...perhaps fox news?

Afraid of quesiton will never set one free.

What? I cannot even tell what your trying to say. Something about fox news, what you should mouth and stereo types... Right. :rollseyes


And so as a ideal discussion you can provide the verses in the tanakh that show why the wailing wall

Midrash is where the Wall is mentioned.


“Behold, He standeth behind our wall.” (Song of Songs 2:9). Wall alludes to the Western Wall of the Temple which will never be destroyed. Why? Because the Shechinah is in the west.
Numbers Rabba 11:2

R’ Eleazar says: The Shechinah did not depart from the Sanctuary … for although it is laid waste, it still retains in holiness. R’ Aha said: The Divine Presence will never depart from the Western Wall as it is said: “Behold, He standeth behind our wall.” (Song of Songs 2:9)
Exodus Rabba 2:2

When Vespasian had subdued the city, he assigned the destruction of the four ramparts to the four generals, and the western gate was allotted to Pangar. Now it had been decreed by Heaven that this should never be destroyed because the Shechinah is in the west. The others demolished their sections but he did not demolish his.

Vespasian sent for him and asked, “Why did you not destroy your section?”
He replied: “By your life, I acted so for the honour of the kingdom; for if I had demolished it, nobody would [in time] know what it was you destroyed; but when people look [at the western wall] they will exclaim, Perceive the might of Vespasian from what he destroyed!”

He said to him, “Enough, you have spoken well, but since you disobeyed my command, you shall ascend to the roof and throw yourself down. If you live, you will live; and if you die, you will die.”
He ascended, threw himself down and died.
Lamentations Rabba 1:31

Thw wall is clearly mentioned in Hebrew scripture. Also by oral law and prophecy told to us by Hashem about how he would leave 1 part of the temple standing, to show we were still in covanent with him.

Either way, Shabbat Shalom. Sundown is here in Denver where I am staying right now so I must go. Have a good weekend.
 
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What? I cannot even tell what your trying to say. Something about fox news, what you should mouth and stereo types... Right. :rollseyes




Midrash is where the Wall is mentioned.


“Behold, He standeth behind our wall.” (Song of Songs 2:9). Wall alludes to the Western Wall of the Temple which will never be destroyed. Why? Because the Shechinah is in the west.
Numbers Rabba 11:2

R’ Eleazar says: The Shechinah did not depart from the Sanctuary … for although it is laid waste, it still retains in holiness. R’ Aha said: The Divine Presence will never depart from the Western Wall as it is said: “Behold, He standeth behind our wall.” (Song of Songs 2:9)
Exodus Rabba 2:2

When Vespasian had subdued the city, he assigned the destruction of the four ramparts to the four generals, and the western gate was allotted to Pangar. Now it had been decreed by Heaven that this should never be destroyed because the Shechinah is in the west. The others demolished their sections but he did not demolish his.

Vespasian sent for him and asked, “Why did you not destroy your section?”
He replied: “By your life, I acted so for the honour of the kingdom; for if I had demolished it, nobody would [in time] know what it was you destroyed; but when people look [at the western wall] they will exclaim, Perceive the might of Vespasian from what he destroyed!”

He said to him, “Enough, you have spoken well, but since you disobeyed my command, you shall ascend to the roof and throw yourself down. If you live, you will live; and if you die, you will die.”
He ascended, threw himself down and died.
Lamentations Rabba 1:31

Thw wall is clearly mentioned in Hebrew scripture. Also by oral law and prophecy told to us by Hashem about how he would leave 1 part of the temple standing, to show we were still in covanent with him.

Either way, Shabbat Shalom. Sundown is here in Denver where I am staying right now so I must go. Have a good weekend.


Salaam

First off thank for a new verse to justify your desire to see the wall as holy.

Let see what the verse is about from it pre and post quote.

[PIE]King James Version: Song of Solomon (Canticles) Chapter 2
1 I am the rose of Sharon, and the lily of the valleys.


2 As the lily among thorns, so is my love among the daughters.


3 As the apple tree among the trees of the wood, so is my beloved among the sons. I sat down under his shadow with great delight, and his fruit was sweet to my taste.


4 He brought me to the banqueting house, and his banner over me was love.


5 Stay me with flagons, comfort me with apples: for I am sick of love.


6 His left hand is under my head, and his right hand doth embrace me.


7 I charge you, O ye daughters of Jerusalem, by the roes, and by the hinds of the field, that ye stir not up, nor awake my love, till he please.


8 The voice of my beloved! behold, he cometh leaping upon the mountains, skipping upon the hills.


9 My beloved is like a roe or a young hart: behold, he standeth behind our wall, he looketh forth at the windows, shewing himself through the lattice.

10 My beloved spake, and said unto me, Rise up, my love, my fair one, and come away.


11 For, lo, the winter is past, the rain is over and gone;


12 The flowers appear on the earth; the time of the singing of birds is come, and the voice of the turtle is heard in our land;


13 The fig tree putteth forth her green figs, and the vines with the tender grape give a good smell. Arise, my love, my fair one, and come away.


14 O my dove, that art in the clefts of the rock, in the secret places of the stairs, let me see thy countenance, let me hear thy voice; for sweet is thy voice, and thy countenance is comely.


15 Take us the foxes, the little foxes, that spoil the vines: for our vines have tender grapes.


16 My beloved is mine, and I am his: he feedeth among the lilies.


17 Until the day break, and the shadows flee away, turn, my beloved, and be thou like a roe or a young hart upon the mountains of Bether.
[/PIE]

http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/kjv/sol002.htm
english version


http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/tan/sol002.htm#009
Hebrew version.

Hope i got the right one..

I dont see any mention of wall,the wailing wall, and it is a love story about a woman pining about her man,is that right.

So i guess for you that one line in affect proves for you that the wall is Holy,but for me as always ,reading the full Song,it is about not a wall,but about a man and a woman in love...

:heated: :D :giggling: :hiding:
 
I think that therebbe said it's in the COMMENTARY (Midrash) to Song of Salomon 2;2.:rollseyes
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Salaam,

Commentary...

Is the song i posted the correct one? Or is it wrong??

And the commentary talks about the wailing wall,when the entire song is about missing her man.

I wonder how does both link?
 

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