Woman lashed in public in Somalia by Islamic Militia

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MOGADISHU, Somalia (AP) -- Islamic leaders in Mogadishu gave a woman 11 lashes for selling cannabis Thursday, the first female to receive such punishment since the fundamentalist rulers took over the capital in June.

The woman, who throughout the beating insisted she was innocent, was flogged alongside five other men at the Yassin Square in Mogadishu in front of several hundred people. The small bundle of cannabis, worth around $1 on the streets in the capital, was burned before the crowd.
"The reason we punished them was that we want to stop people selling and using drugs," said a local security official, Sheik Omar Hussein. "We believe as Islamists that people should stay away from drugs."

The imposition of strict religious rule has sparked fears of an emerging, Taliban-style regime. The United States accuses Somalia's Islamic leaders of harboring al Qaeda leaders responsible for deadly bombings at the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania in 1998.

Somalia has not had a police force or judiciary for 16 years since the warlords overthrew longtime dictator Mohamed Siad Barre in 1991 and then turned on each other, carving much of the country into armed camps ruled by violence and clan law.

The Islamic leaders stepped into the vacuum in Mogadishu and most of southern Somalia, projecting themselves as a source of stability.
Late Tuesday, Islamic militiamen raided a makeshift video hall in Mogadishu, beating up viewers watching an Indian film. Like the Taliban, members of the group appear to see any secular entertainment as un-Islamic.
Somalia has a weak transitional government set up two years ago with U.N.-backing, but it has been unable to assert its authority beyond Baidoa, 150 miles (240 kilometers) northwest of Mogadishu, and could only watch helplessly as Islamic militants seized the capital in June.

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I was afraid this would be the outcome in Somalia. It does sound like another Taliban style regime, if you could even call it a "regime". Just one more troubled region in an area of troubled regions.
 
I wonder how many prisoners in US jails serving a year or more for selling cannabis, would have rather had 11 lashes instead of jail time. Perhaps some times cruel punishment is in the eye of the beholder.

I'm not advocating public floggings, but I often wonder if maybe our punishments may be kinder in writing but crueler in effect. A year in jail affects a mans earning and deprives a family of a bread winner. 11 lashes most likely only affects the culprit.
 
I wonder how many prisoners in US jails serving a year or more for selling cannabis, would have rather had 11 lashes instead of jail time. Perhaps some times cruel punishment is in the eye of the beholder.

How many of the people in US jails were selling pot? Now tell em how many were most likley dangerous and ready to kill mass amounts of innocent...

Or do you go by the theory that western countries just jail Muslims because they feel like it? :uhwhat

Come one, Woodrow, you can't use that example here. The lady was selling some pot. Did not deserve lashings especially in PUBLIC!
 
I have to give this one to Woodrow, that's excellent reasoning.

Not to mention that the courts don't have any money for fancy jails and the like.
 
Not to mention that the courts don't have any money for fancy jails and the like.

So you whip them in public instead? Is that justice to you? Maybe if you were the one being whipped in an unstabalized country, you would see thins different. Maybe Just Maybe.
 
How many of the people in US jails were selling pot? Now tell em how many were most likley dangerous and ready to kill mass amounts of innocent...

Or do you go by the theory that western countries just jail Muslims because they feel like it? :uhwhat

Come one, Woodrow, you can't use that example here. The lady was selling some pot. Did not deserve lashings especially in PUBLIC!

First no where did I say she deserved the lashings or that I advocate lashings.

What is the comment about western countries only jail Muslims, please quote where I said that.

How many people in US jails are arrested for selling Pot. Here in Texas they account for nearly 50% of the jail population. (Pssibly more, note I said Jail, not prison)

What did any of my comment have to do with this:

Now tell em how many were most likley dangerous and ready to kill mass amounts of innocent...
 
I'm just trying to tell you that to me a comparison of someone selling weed, and a terrorist, is a big difference.
 
How many of the people in US jails were selling pot? Now tell em how many were most likley dangerous and ready to kill mass amounts of innocent...

Or do you go by the theory that western countries just jail Muslims because they feel like it? :uhwhat

Come one, Woodrow, you can't use that example here. The lady was selling some pot. Did not deserve lashings especially in PUBLIC!

Better yet, how does any of what you just said relate to what I said:

I wonder how many prisoners in US jails serving a year or more for selling cannabis, would have rather had 11 lashes instead of jail time. Perhaps some times cruel punishment is in the eye of the beholder.

I'm not advocating public floggings, but I often wonder if maybe our punishments may be kinder in writing but crueler in effect. A year in jail affects a mans earning and deprives a family of a bread winner. 11 lashes most likely only affects the culprit.
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I'm just trying to tell you that to me a comparison of someone selling weed, and a terrorist, is a big difference.

How on earth does this have anything to do with terrorists?
 
Where is this punishment written?

Is it in a statute somewhere?

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In my opinion this is just something the locals decided on. I have no idea how or why they came up with the 11 lashes. But, from I see the militants most likely have no facilities for incarceration or many other options so what we see is probably the culmination of several sources. I wont deny that they may be using some sharia law as a basis, but to me it seems more like a local punishment.

keep this in mind before we judge too harshly:

Somalia has not had a police force or judiciary for 16 years since the warlords overthrew longtime dictator Mohamed Siad Barre in 1991 and then turned on each other, carving much of the country into armed camps ruled by violence and clan law
 
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If for 1 dollar drug she took 11 lashes for 5 dollars drug her punishment would be increased? like to 55? or would be the same 11 lashes?
 
Why does everyone make such a fuss when Muslim leaders make such decsions? Just because someone is not afraid to follow the shariah they are labelled as "fundamentalists" as if its equal to "terrorism"............

ALL MUSLIMS who care about following the BASIC PRINCIPALS OF ISLAM are FUNDAMENTALISTS.

The same goes to anyone, belonging to any religion who set up their life according to the foundations of their religion.
 
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LOL, I find it funny how people critise islamic law, when the Western Justice is a complete joke!
 
If it works as a deterrent, then why not! At least people may learn from their msitake. One wishes!

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Exactly! The Yobs running around terrorising people don't fear prison, it has the opposite effect on them.
 

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