You could be anti-semitic if you think Israel is racist, government says

[Zafran]

They have the money to by lot's of "friends" to support them. Also they set up the United Nations to legitimize the State of Israel and to push Zionist agendas around the world.

No they dont. You realy dont know how much the UN is against Isreal because of its breaking of countless resoultions?

 

[Zafran]

I don't believe the Arabs became radically different under Islam.

The Arabs that worshiped countless Idols, killed their daughters in infancy, didnt have a concpet of an afterlife, fought each other for petty issues changed dramatically after the Revelation to Muhammad pbuh.

 

[kritikvernunft]

“Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor”

Israeli novelist Amos Oz is among those who have argued that the enactment of the Palestinian "right of return" would make Arabs the majority in Israel. In Oz's view, such a step would amount to "abolishing the Jewish people's right to self determination."

However, the treaties are clear on the right of the Palestinians to return:

2 November 1917, United Kingdom's Foreign Secretary Arthur James Lord Balfour. His Majesty's government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine.

11 December 1948, Article 11, UN General Assembly Resolution 194. Resolves that the refugees wishing to return to their homes and live at peace with their neighbours should be permitted to do so at the earliest practicable date, and that compensation should be paid for the property of those choosing not to return and for loss of or damage to property which, under principles of international law or in equity, should be made good by the Governments or authorities responsible.

The Geneva Conventions of 1949. UN General Assembly Resolution 3236, passed on 22 November 1974 declared the right of return to be an "inalienable right".

Hence, the State of Israel's excuse is utterly feeble:

David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister of Israel, insisted in an interview with the members of the Conciliations Commission that as long as Israel could not count on the dedication of any Arab refugees to remain "at peace with their neighbors" - a consequence, he contended, of the Arab states' unwillingness to remain at peace with the state of Israel – resettlement was not an obligation for his country.

Hence, since the State of Israel expects the Palestinians to remain at war with them, and since the State of Israel effectively acts on this expectation, the Palestinians will simply have to give the State of Israel what they are asking for, and continue military operations until the State of Israel caves in on the demand of the Palestinian refugees to return.

There is also a serious issue at the level of the statutes of limitation. If you fail to persue a claim, after some period of time, the claim will expire, because you will be supposed to have given up on the claim. You can only collect on a claim for a limited period of time. In order to keep the claim alive, you must regularly engage in collection efforts. Every credible collection effort will restart afresh the period of time listed in the statutes of limitation. Hence, the Palestinians must produce new collection efforts in order to prevent the statutes of limitation from expiring their claim. State-level collection efforts amount to hostilities. Hence, without fresh hostilities, the Palestinian claim will gradually expire. Even just throwing stones across the border, is better than not producing any collection efforts at all. Therefore, it is a requirement that the Palestinians:

[1] Insist and believe that they will return
[2] Duly punish any defeatists in their own ranks who are willing to release their right of return
[3] Organize new hostilities against the State of Israel, if only, by throwing stones across the border

If the Palestinians stopped their attempts at enforcing their right to return, they would effectively lose it. Hence, military operations against the State of Israel are unfortunately NOT optional. They are a legal requirement, to prevent the claim to expire by reaching its statutes of limitation. Furthermore, it does not matter how long it takes for the Palestinians to return. As long as they keep believing that they will return -- and regularly keep acting to keep the claim alive -- one day they will.

 

[M.I.A.]

..Maybe they would have more luck running over and planting flags on random hills..

rather than throwing stones.

honestly one can't aspire to live in lego towers without at least laying some lego bricks.

it's still symbolic right?


no need to end everything with ....btw kill yourselves.


....

anything can get dark pretty quick.. I do not condone terrorism.

 

[Karl]

No they dont. You realy dont know how much the UN is against Isreal because of its breaking of countless resoultions?

Are your parents against you just because you are naughty some times? The system is rigged to let Israel get away with anything.
Muslims should not recognise or give any validity to the United Nations, they are authoritarian totalitarian godless Marxists and the dogs of the plutocratic Zionists. They are the true enemies of all religions, not just Islam.

 

[Karl]

The Arabs that worshiped countless Idols, killed their daughters in infancy, didnt have a concpet of an afterlife, fought each other for petty issues changed dramatically after the Revelation to Muhammad pbuh.

Well I would say more of a change of culture with the discovery of all that oil. Maybe it is a test from Allah ...it is easy to have humility and piety when you are poor and weak but can you stay that way when you become rich and powerful? And going by the ridiculous opulence and frivolity in some Arab States I would say some have failed.

 

[Abz2000]

Well I would say more of a change of culture with the discovery of all that oil. Maybe it is a test from Allah ...it is easy to have humility and piety when you are poor and weak but can you stay that way when you become rich and powerful? And going by the ridiculous opulence and frivolity in some Arab States I would say some have failed.

Well considering that they're sandhurst trained puppets who lay claim of personal ownership of whole Muslim lands and resources, take blackwater xe as allies just as revolutions break out and gang up on any leader who raises their voice against the american or zionist governments, you can hardly attribute their frivolity to Islam.

 

[kritikvernunft]

..Maybe they would have more luck running over and planting flags on random hills .. rather than throwing stones.

I think that they are probably doing enough at the moment to keep the claim alive and fend off the statutes of limitation. I am not the Palestinian military command either. It is up to their command to figure out what is possible and what is not.

it's still symbolic right?

Not necessarily! ;-)
But there certainly exists a very minimum level of hostility to maintain, just to fend off the statutes of limitation.

no need to end everything with ....btw kill yourselves.....anything can get dark pretty quick.. I do not condone terrorism.

In terms of morality, and the Divine Law that generates it, "terrorism" is not an accredited term. You will not find this term anywhere in the scriptures. Hence, the term "terrorism" has no moral weight.

I personally believe in the Qisas as the perfect tool to assess the morality of hostile behaviour. As far as I am concerned, the Qisas is a special case of Noether's theorem: Every differentiable symmetry (=invariant) of the action (=history) of a physical system has a corresponding conservation law. The Qisas rests on the idea that justice is the invariant being preserved by its conservation law.

Furthermore, if someone is suicidal, and insists that he wants to leave us, you know that in accordance with the rules and regulations in Divine Law, he is not supposed just to leave like that. He will have to seek to become a martyr, in order to keep his family and his estate beyond reproach. In that sense, the existence of enemies is a boon for people who are suicidal anyway. ;-)

 

[M.I.A.]

it's always by the one in who's hands my life is in..

but..

if a person is struggling, people won't pay a fair price.. they haggle him down and belittle what he has.

..and another person can charge extra, change the conversation... in the same place, at the same time..

What's the first person watching?

believe me, suicide is highly ineffective.

...the youth in there prime can be better used..

once dead, so many conversations cannot be had.

indoctrination leaves little to oppose.


you kill the dragon and it's the end of the show.