It seems they already started the construction. There goes the hotel i stayed in!
How reliable is the information regarding future planning drawings? I know the umbrella picture has been circulating the web even before this last hajj. Also, i know the current construction is to add a new section adjacent to the current one (marwa side) as it was reported in the news.
you know the really tall building with the golden clock on top like the big ben that really really really freaks me out i dont know why!!!!!
its just so scary the way it overlooks the whole masjid!
spoooooooky!!!!!!!!!!!
^ It's the world's tallest clock tower I think, or one of the tallest. It woulda been better in Jeddah or something, but khair inshaAllah.
I've seen a few different "future" plans for what Makkah will look like, and I duno how reliable they really are, or whether they're just trying to freak us out and make us go Saudi bashing. I know tall towers are a sign of Qiyaamah and had to be fulfilled, no matter how we might hate it. I just have my doubts on the rest. Hmmm...
I think the Safa / Marwa expansion is almost complete, if it's not already complete...
"...You are my Walî in this world and in the Hereafter. Cause me to die as a Muslim, and join me with the righteous." [Surah Yusuf 101]
In my opinion, there is nothing wrong with trying to make the city look nice. However, whatever they construct should not draw attention away from the main focus of the city - The Masjid Al-Haraam.
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you know the really tall building with the golden clock on top like the big ben that really really really freaks me out i dont know why!!!!!
its just so scary the way it overlooks the whole masjid!
spoooooooky!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeh it does look scary and out of place...
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What up with the Saudi Big Ben, its making the Masjid look less significant.
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that clocktower really looks like freaking Big Ben... i just dont like it...
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The clock tower doesn't look right
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Yeh it does look scary and out of place...
i totally agree with you all,
i mean if i wanted to see big ben,
id go to london,
personally i think its going way over the top!
i mean whats next? :'(
It is reported that Abd Allah ibn Omar (ra) said that his father Omar (ra) said: One day, while we were with the Prophet (pbuh) a man, with shining white clothes and jet black hair, appeared before us. We could see no indications of a journey on him and neither did anyone among us know him [to be a resident of Medinah]. [He kept advancing towards us] till he sat himself in front of the Prophet (pbuh). [So close was he to the Prophet (pbuh) that] his knees touched the Prophet's knees; he placed his hands on his [own] legs. He asked: 'Muhammad, inform me about Islam'. The Prophet (pbuh) replied: 'Islam is that you bear witness that there is no god, except the One God and that Muhammad is the messenger of God; that you establish Sala'h; that you pay Zaka'h; that you fast during [the month of] Ramadan; and that you undertake the Hajj of the Bayet Allah, if you are in a position to do so'3. He said: 'You are right'. Omar said: 'We were surprised at him. He asked the Prophet a question and then himself verified the Prophet's answer'.
Then he said: 'Inform me about Iman'. The Prophet (pbuh) said: 'Iman is that you believe in God, His angels, His books, His prophets; the Final Day2 and that you believe that the desirable and the undesirable events [in life] are all from God'3. He said: 'You are right'.
Then he said: 'Inform me about Ihsan'. The Prophet replied: 'Ihsan is that you serve God as if He was right in front of your eyes; for even if you cannot see Him, He definitely sees you'4.
Then he said: 'Inform me about the Hour [when shall it happen?]' The Prophet (pbuh) replied: 'The person who is being asked is no more aware of it than the inquirer'.
Then he said: 'Tell me about its signs'. The Prophet (pbuh) replied: 'That the slave girl will give birth to the free woman; that you shall see these bare footed, naked, and poor shepherds [of Arabia] competing with each other in making high buildings'
Omar continued: Then he went away and I kept sitting there for quite some time. Then the Prophet (pbuh) said to me: 'Omar, do you know who this inquirer was?' I said: 'God and His messenger know best'. He said: 'It was Gabriel. He came to you to teach you [some important aspects of] your religion'.
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It is not Al-Birr (piety, righteousness, and obedience to Allâh, etc.) that you turn your faces towards east and (or) west (in prayers); but Al-Birr is (the quality of) the one who believes in Allâh, the Last Day, the Angels, the Book, the Prophets and gives his wealth, in spite of love for it, to the kinsfolk, to the orphans, and to Al-Masâkîn (the poor), and to the wayfarer, and to those who ask, and to set slaves free, performs As-Salât, and gives the Zakât, and keep their word whenever they make a promise, and who are patient in extreme poverty and ailment (disease) and at the time of persecution, hardship, and war. Such are the people of the truth and they are Al-Muttaqûn (the pious).
It is reported that Abd Allah ibn Omar (ra) said that his father Omar (ra) said: One day, while we were with the Prophet (pbuh) a man, with shining white clothes and jet black hair, appeared before us. We could see no indications of a journey on him and neither did anyone among us know him [to be a resident of Medinah]. [He kept advancing towards us] till he sat himself in front of the Prophet (pbuh). [So close was he to the Prophet (pbuh) that] his knees touched the Prophet's knees; he placed his hands on his [own] legs. He asked: 'Muhammad, inform me about Islam'. The Prophet (pbuh) replied: 'Islam is that you bear witness that there is no god, except the One God and that Muhammad is the messenger of God; that you establish Sala'h; that you pay Zaka'h; that you fast during [the month of] Ramadan; and that you undertake the Hajj of the Bayet Allah, if you are in a position to do so'3. He said: 'You are right'. Omar said: 'We were surprised at him. He asked the Prophet a question and then himself verified the Prophet's answer'.
Then he said: 'Inform me about Iman'. The Prophet (pbuh) said: 'Iman is that you believe in God, His angels, His books, His prophets; the Final Day2 and that you believe that the desirable and the undesirable events [in life] are all from God'3. He said: 'You are right'.
Then he said: 'Inform me about Ihsan'. The Prophet replied: 'Ihsan is that you serve God as if He was right in front of your eyes; for even if you cannot see Him, He definitely sees you'4.
Then he said: 'Inform me about the Hour [when shall it happen?]' The Prophet (pbuh) replied: 'The person who is being asked is no more aware of it than the inquirer'.
Then he said: 'Tell me about its signs'. The Prophet (pbuh) replied: 'That the slave girl will give birth to the free woman; that you shall see these bare footed, naked, and poor shepherds [of Arabia] competing with each other in making high buildings'
Omar continued: Then he went away and I kept sitting there for quite some time. Then the Prophet (pbuh) said to me: 'Omar, do you know who this inquirer was?' I said: 'God and His messenger know best'. He said: 'It was Gabriel. He came to you to teach you [some important aspects of] your religion'.
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that is what i was thinking, when i saw the big ben picture!
This one looks very nice, thought it could do without the clock.
I can understand Muslims fear a skyline like that could draw attention away from the mosque.
Umbrellas... It's probably a hoax.
It is not Al-Birr (piety, righteousness, and obedience to Allâh, etc.) that you turn your faces towards east and (or) west (in prayers); but Al-Birr is (the quality of) the one who believes in Allâh, the Last Day, the Angels, the Book, the Prophets and gives his wealth, in spite of love for it, to the kinsfolk, to the orphans, and to Al-Masâkîn (the poor), and to the wayfarer, and to those who ask, and to set slaves free, performs As-Salât, and gives the Zakât, and keep their word whenever they make a promise, and who are patient in extreme poverty and ailment (disease) and at the time of persecution, hardship, and war. Such are the people of the truth and they are Al-Muttaqûn (the pious).
i actually think it looks nice, only part of the mosque will be overshadowed by the building, but on the other 3 sides its all good, i wanna stay in that tall building.
fact is this also, we do have to modernize makkah, not because of being 'backward' or being 'western' but theres alot of pilgrims, 2 million and it will go higher, so you need better and bigger more modern safer buildings to be able to accomdate the people etc.
like if you look at some of these pictures, you can see some of the old buildings and old roads about to be broken down, and all i can think of is well its about time, you should have done this 10 years ago.
Of course, there is a need for safe and new buildings, and they can easily build new hotels that don't attempt in dwarfing out the Haram. There is Hilton, Dar at Tawheed, Sheraton, and many others which have accommodated the hujjaj. Sorry to say, but Abraj al Bait isn't going to be having regular hujjaj... It's gonna be the home to dignitaries, princes, and the very rich who come to Makkah, cuz those are the only people will be able to afford it.
"...You are my Walî in this world and in the Hereafter. Cause me to die as a Muslim, and join me with the righteous." [Surah Yusuf 101]
Looks like they plan to demolish and rebuild the entire city apart from the Grand Mosque. Is there no historic areas of Mecca surviving? I remember there was a big argument when the Saudi's demolished an Ottoman castle. If there is any historic areas left it'd be a great shame to lose them, I'm all for contemporary architecture but it can go alongside rather than on top of Historic buildings (Which in many cases are better built then new buildings in any case)
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