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    By Khalid Amayreh, IOL Correspondent

    OCCUPIED JERUSALEM — Muslim and Christian leaders across the occupied Palestinian lands are shocked with repeated Israeli insults of the prophets and religious sanctities.

    "I don't really know when Jews will start to respect the religious sensitivities of non-Jews," the Chief religious judge of Palestine, Dr. Taysir Tamimi, told IslamOnline.net on Saturday, February 28.

    "It is very shocking and very telling that Jewish religious leaders in Israel and abroad have not condemned these blasphemous acts."

    Israeli media shocked millions of Muslims and Christians last week by mocking Jesus, his mother Mary and Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessing be upon him).

    A TV comedy skit, hosted by Israeli comedian Lior Shlein, last week depicted Jesus as being "too fat" to have walked on water and that May was not virgin.

    The insult came after the host angered million of Muslims when he pointed to one of his shoes, saying "This is Muhammad."

    "Muslims throughout the world have been shocked by the evil campaign waged against Islam and the Prophet (PBUH) and abuse of this shameful campaign against the sanctities with insults addressed against the Prophet and a religion followed by more than 1.5 billion Muslims," said Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu, secretary general of the Organization of the Islamic Conference.

    "This shameful conduct came a few days after broadcasting insulting rhetoric against Prophet Jesus and his virgin mother, Mary, peace be upon them."

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    Salim Kubti, a lawyer representing Christian courts in Israel, said he was considering a libel suit against Channel-10, which hosted the comedy show.

    "Such remarks go beyond satire and dark humor," he told IOL.

    "These are serious utterances insulting the sensibilities of every Christian and anyone who possesses values and mutual respect for other religions.

    "It's clear that Shlein is a failure and as a result is looking for any way to improve his ratings, and he is jumping on a sensitive issue."

    The Vatican labeled the Israeli show "a vulgar and offensive act of intolerance toward the religious sentiments of the believers in Christ."

    Some Christian leaders and clergymen even Pope Benedict XVI to postpone or cancel his planned visit to Israel, scheduled to take place in May.

    The outcry forced outgoing Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert to apologize for Pope Benedict XVI, saying the comedy segment didn't represent Israel's views.

    IOL has contacted some Jewish leaders for comment, but they refused to talk.

    Muslim leaders also denounced the Israeli TV show, calling it "wicked and blasphemous."

    "We believe in freedom of expression, but we don't believe in freedom of vulgarity and blasphemy," Ikrema Sabri, head of the Supreme Muslim Council in Al-Quds (occupied East Jerusalem), said in the weekly Friday sermon.

    "You can't insult and offend people under the pretext of freedom of expression."

    He said the "apparent acquiescence" of the Israeli government to these vulgarities reflected "malice and ill-will" toward Muslims, calling on Muslims worldwide to send an "unmistakable warning" to Israel to refrain from insulting religious symbols.

    Israel has a long history of showing disrespect to Muslim and Christian faiths.

    In 1948, the Israeli army and paramilitary Jewish groups systematically destroyed hundreds of mosques in Palestine in an effort to obliterate the country's Arab-Islamic identity.

    Mosques left intact, such as the Beir al Saba'a Mosque, were converted into bars or brothels. Others were simply left to fall into disrepair.

    Shortly after the 1967 Middle East war, the chief rabbi of the Israeli army, Shlomo Gorin, urged the military to blow up Al-Aqsa Mosque, Islam's third holiest shrine, "once and for all".

    In January 1984, armed Jewish extremists, led by Rabbi Moshe Levinger, one of the leaders of Gush Emunim, the Jewish settler movement, attempted to dynamite and destroy Al-Aqsa mosque.

    Jewish insults of Muslim and Christian symbols became more common and audacious in recent years.

    Nearly ten years ago, a Jewish immigrant from the former Soviet Union drew an offensive image depicting Prophet Muhammad as a pig writing the Qur'an.

    In 2006, a Jewish couple walked into the Basilica of Annunciation Church in the Arab town of Nazareth in Israel, carrying 19 gas canisters, bottles of turpentine and kerosene, 64 firecrackers and 25 rocket-shaped fireworks.

    The couple placed the fireworks and the gas canisters in a corner then poured kerosene on them, causing a fire.

    Moreover, Yeshiva (Talmudic school) students have been spitting on Christian clergymen in Al-Quds and breaking their crucifixes.

    Some other fanatical Jews don't hesitate to refer to Jesus as "Hitler of Bethlehem."

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    Re: Israeli Sacrilege Angers Muslims, Christians

    format_quote Originally Posted by Layla454 View Post
    Israeli Sacrilege Angers Muslims, Christians

    By Khalid Amayreh, IOL Correspondent

    OCCUPIED JERUSALEM — Muslim and Christian leaders across the occupied Palestinian lands are shocked with repeated Israeli insults of the prophets and religious sanctities.

    "I don't really know when Jews will start to respect the religious sensitivities of non-Jews," the Chief religious judge of Palestine, Dr. Taysir Tamimi, told IslamOnline.net on Saturday, February 28.

    "It is very shocking and very telling that Jewish religious leaders in Israel and abroad have not condemned these blasphemous acts."

    Israeli media shocked millions of Muslims and Christians last week by mocking Jesus, his mother Mary and Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessing be upon him).

    A TV comedy skit, hosted by Israeli comedian Lior Shlein, last week depicted Jesus as being "too fat" to have walked on water and that May was not virgin.

    The insult came after the host angered million of Muslims when he pointed to one of his shoes, saying "This is Muhammad."

    "Muslims throughout the world have been shocked by the evil campaign waged against Islam and the Prophet (PBUH) and abuse of this shameful campaign against the sanctities with insults addressed against the Prophet and a religion followed by more than 1.5 billion Muslims," said Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu, secretary general of the Organization of the Islamic Conference.

    "This shameful conduct came a few days after broadcasting insulting rhetoric against Prophet Jesus and his virgin mother, Mary, peace be upon them."

    Wicked, blasphemous

    Salim Kubti, a lawyer representing Christian courts in Israel, said he was considering a libel suit against Channel-10, which hosted the comedy show.

    "Such remarks go beyond satire and dark humor," he told IOL.

    "These are serious utterances insulting the sensibilities of every Christian and anyone who possesses values and mutual respect for other religions.

    "It's clear that Shlein is a failure and as a result is looking for any way to improve his ratings, and he is jumping on a sensitive issue."

    The Vatican labeled the Israeli show "a vulgar and offensive act of intolerance toward the religious sentiments of the believers in Christ."

    Some Christian leaders and clergymen even Pope Benedict XVI to postpone or cancel his planned visit to Israel, scheduled to take place in May.

    The outcry forced outgoing Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert to apologize for Pope Benedict XVI, saying the comedy segment didn't represent Israel's views.

    IOL has contacted some Jewish leaders for comment, but they refused to talk.

    Muslim leaders also denounced the Israeli TV show, calling it "wicked and blasphemous."

    "We believe in freedom of expression, but we don't believe in freedom of vulgarity and blasphemy," Ikrema Sabri, head of the Supreme Muslim Council in Al-Quds (occupied East Jerusalem), said in the weekly Friday sermon.

    "You can't insult and offend people under the pretext of freedom of expression."

    He said the "apparent acquiescence" of the Israeli government to these vulgarities reflected "malice and ill-will" toward Muslims, calling on Muslims worldwide to send an "unmistakable warning" to Israel to refrain from insulting religious symbols.

    Israel has a long history of showing disrespect to Muslim and Christian faiths.

    In 1948, the Israeli army and paramilitary Jewish groups systematically destroyed hundreds of mosques in Palestine in an effort to obliterate the country's Arab-Islamic identity.

    Mosques left intact, such as the Beir al Saba'a Mosque, were converted into bars or brothels. Others were simply left to fall into disrepair.

    Shortly after the 1967 Middle East war, the chief rabbi of the Israeli army, Shlomo Gorin, urged the military to blow up Al-Aqsa Mosque, Islam's third holiest shrine, "once and for all".

    In January 1984, armed Jewish extremists, led by Rabbi Moshe Levinger, one of the leaders of Gush Emunim, the Jewish settler movement, attempted to dynamite and destroy Al-Aqsa mosque.

    Jewish insults of Muslim and Christian symbols became more common and audacious in recent years.

    Nearly ten years ago, a Jewish immigrant from the former Soviet Union drew an offensive image depicting Prophet Muhammad as a pig writing the Qur'an.

    In 2006, a Jewish couple walked into the Basilica of Annunciation Church in the Arab town of Nazareth in Israel, carrying 19 gas canisters, bottles of turpentine and kerosene, 64 firecrackers and 25 rocket-shaped fireworks.

    The couple placed the fireworks and the gas canisters in a corner then poured kerosene on them, causing a fire.

    Moreover, Yeshiva (Talmudic school) students have been spitting on Christian clergymen in Al-Quds and breaking their crucifixes.

    Some other fanatical Jews don't hesitate to refer to Jesus as "Hitler of Bethlehem."

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    Is this any different that muslims saying Jesus is not the son of God? This doesn't anger me in the least. What they do don't affect my relationship with God.
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    Re: Israeli Sacrilege Angers Muslims, Christians

    Is that a serious question?

    Muslims saying Jesus pbuh was one of the greatest and most righteous HUMANS who ever lived.


    So please think twice before posting.



    Anyways, what do we expect from people who kill the prophets?
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    Re: Israeli Sacrilege Angers Muslims, Christians

    format_quote Originally Posted by Izyan View Post
    Is this any different that muslims saying Jesus is not the son of God? This doesn't anger me in the least. What they do don't affect my relationship with God.
    wow, are you trying to purposely make bad points? Muslims dont go calling Jesus fat, or too fat to walk on water, etc etc, perhaps you failed to see that part in the article, the Israeli was mocking and purposely making fun of Jesus, but offcourse, you missed that part and went on to create a straw man and compare two very different things.

    respectfully disagreeing with another faith is completely different than simply mocking and making fun of it.
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    Re: Israeli Sacrilege Angers Muslims, Christians

    format_quote Originally Posted by Izyan View Post
    Is this any different that muslims saying Jesus is not the son of God? This doesn't anger me in the least. What they do don't affect my relationship with God.
    Yes it is completely different. If you love Jesus (peace be upon him), then it should concern you.
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    Re: Israeli Sacrilege Angers Muslims, Christians

    format_quote Originally Posted by Izyan View Post
    Is this any different that muslims saying Jesus is not the son of God? This doesn't anger me in the least. What they do don't affect my relationship with God.
    No because these are our beliefs and we hold the Prophet Isa in high respect, we are not insulting any faith by practising our beliefs

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    Re: Israeli Sacrilege Angers Muslims, Christians

    format_quote Originally Posted by Layla454 View Post
    [B]Israel has a long history of showing disrespect to Muslim and Christian faiths.

    In 1948, the Israeli army and paramilitary Jewish groups systematically destroyed hundreds of mosques in Palestine in an effort to obliterate the country's Arab-Islamic identity.

    Mosques left intact, such as the Beir al Saba'a Mosque, were converted into bars or brothels. Others were simply left to fall into disrepair.

    Shortly after the 1967 Middle East war, the chief rabbi of the Israeli army, Shlomo Gorin, urged the military to blow up Al-Aqsa Mosque, Islam's third holiest shrine, "once and for all".

    In January 1984, armed Jewish extremists, led by Rabbi Moshe Levinger, one of the leaders of Gush Emunim, the Jewish settler movement, attempted to dynamite and destroy Al-Aqsa mosque.
    They come into our land then destroy our mosques. Then try to destroy Al Aqsa, the day that happens it'll be the next world war and they have won't any excuses to justify it like: hamas was hiding in there, or whatever crap they come out with
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    Re: Israeli Sacrilege Angers Muslims, Christians

    How is it different? In my religion it is blasphemy to say Jesus wasn't the son of God. Skye repeatedly calls my religion pagan. How is this different?
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    Re: Israeli Sacrilege Angers Muslims, Christians

    format_quote Originally Posted by Izyan View Post
    How is it different? In my religion it is blasphemy to say Jesus wasn't the son of God. Skye repeatedly calls my religion pagan. How is this different?
    Because pagan isnt inherently an insult? It is a type of religion. And the comment is backed up by proofs which you can debate if you so choose?

    Try and debate with someone calling you idiot and ask for their proof LOLOL:rolleyes:
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    Re: Israeli Sacrilege Angers Muslims, Christians

    format_quote Originally Posted by aadil77 View Post
    They come into our land then destroy our mosques. Then try to destroy Al Aqsa, the day that happens it'll be the next world war and they have won't any excuses to justify it like: hamas was hiding in there, or whatever crap they come out with
    Wrong. Right from the beginning we have to be careful not to act like those greedy fools.


    That land belongs to all of us. Aqsa to us. The Wall to them. The Sepulcher to the christians.
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    Re: Israeli Sacrilege Angers Muslims, Christians

    www.izyan.com When you get a chance Izyan, click on the link and check it out.

    I understand that it would be hard for you to oppose what Israel does, God forbid!, but you have to see how anger can be generated from such statements as those in the article. Comparing a religious belief to someones idea of a joke is in fact different, believe it or not.
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    Re: Israeli Sacrilege Angers Muslims, Christians

    format_quote Originally Posted by -Kai- View Post
    www.izyan.com When you get a chance Izyan, click on the link and check it out.

    I understand that it would be hard for you to oppose what Israel does, God forbid!, but you have to see how anger can be generated from such statements as those in the article. Comparing a religious belief to someones idea of a joke is in fact different, believe it or not.
    It's not Israel it's some idiots on tv. It's like me condemning the British for The Life of Brian or anything that comes on Little Britian (I love british comedy by the way). It doesn't change my relationship with Jesus or what he means. What does getting upset accomplish?
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    Re: Israeli Sacrilege Angers Muslims, Christians

    This goes beyond just this one person though. This happens so frequently over there and Israel itself doesn't seem to have a problem with it, not that I was expecting them to. I wouldn't suspect this to change any of our relationships towards our religion, thats not the point I was trying to make.
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    The only problem I have with the show is that it only made fun out of Jesus and Muhammad, making it look like evil Jews mocking non-Jews, which I guess wasn't what they meant. If they had thrown in Abraham or Moses, things would have appeared somehow more neutral.
    Still, I think the purpose of the show was humor rather than inciting religious hatred and therefore should not be prosecuted in any way.
    I do have problem with ultra orthodox Jews calling Jesus Hitler or setting churches/mosques on fire.
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    Re: Israeli Sacrilege Angers Muslims, Christians

    format_quote Originally Posted by Whatsthepoint View Post
    The only problem I have with the show is that it only made fun out of Jesus and Muhammad, making it look like evil Jews mocking non-Jews, which I guess wasn't what they meant. If they had thrown in Abraham or Moses, things would have appeared somehow more neutral.
    Still, I think the purpose of the show was humor rather than inciting religious hatred and therefore should not be prosecuted in any way.
    I do have problem with ultra orthodox Jews calling Jesus Hitler or setting churches/mosques on fire.
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    I have read an interview with an Israeli man, and he said that the guy who made this programme is making fun of everything, including judaism, Moses and Abraham.
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    Re: Israeli Sacrilege Angers Muslims, Christians

    format_quote Originally Posted by Izyan View Post
    It's not Israel it's some idiots on tv. It's like me condemning the British for The Life of Brian or anything that comes on Little Britian (I love british comedy by the way). It doesn't change my relationship with Jesus or what he means. What does getting upset accomplish?
    So you're perfectly fine with that guy calling Jesus too fat to walk on water and Mary not a virgin....

    You know, there's this little thing in Islam called respect. I suspect both Judaism and Christianity teach that too, but it seems from your posts you seem to lack that attribute. Perhaps you should reconsider your apostacy from Islam - clearly, your current path isn't doing you any favours.
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    Re: Israeli Sacrilege Angers Muslims, Christians

    format_quote Originally Posted by Izyan View Post
    How is it different? In my religion it is blasphemy to say Jesus wasn't the son of God. Skye repeatedly calls my religion pagan. How is this different?
    What religion is that? I don't know of a single verse in any religious scripture where Jesus claimed to be God!!!

    What blasphemy!!!
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Hamayun View Post
    What religion is that? I don't know of a single verse in any religious scripture where Jesus claimed to be God!!!

    What blasphemy!!!
    John 3:16 probably the most famous scripture in the world.

    "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth on him should not perish, but have everlasting life."
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    format_quote Originally Posted by aamirsaab View Post
    So you're perfectly fine with that guy calling Jesus too fat to walk on water and Mary not a virgin....

    You know, there's this little thing in Islam called respect. I suspect both Judaism and Christianity teach that too, but it seems from your posts you seem to lack that attribute. Perhaps you should reconsider your apostacy from Islam - clearly, your current path isn't doing you any favours.
    I've reconsidered it and decided to stay an apostate. I have great respect for the Lord Jesus Christ, that's why you won't see me saying he's too fat to walk on water. What other people do don't concern me. When I stand before God I stand alone.
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    Re: Israeli Sacrilege Angers Muslims, Christians

    format_quote Originally Posted by Izyan View Post
    John 3:16 probably the most famous scripture in the world.

    "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth on him should not perish, but have everlasting life."
    are you NOT making them look like 2 separate gods now?

    anhoo do you think that there is any truth in >> http://wings.buffalo.edu/sa/muslim/l...h1.2.3.10.html

    god incarnate in human form? >> http://wings.buffalo.edu/sa/muslim/l...h1.2.3.11.html
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