An anthem sung by fans of the German football club FC Schalke 04 has drawn protests from Muslims because of its reference to the Prophet Muhammad.
The Gelsenkirchen club, which plays in Germany's top league, the Bundesliga, has asked an Islam expert to consider whether the song might be insulting.
The third verse contains the words: "Muhammad was a prophet who understood nothing about football".
"But of all the lovely colours he chose [Schalke's] blue and white," it goes.
The club has received hundreds of e-mails from angry Muslims recently, since Turkish media carried reports about the song.
Police in Gelsenkirchen, in the industrial Ruhr region of western Germany, say they are taking the Muslim complaints very seriously.
The head of Germany's Central Council of Muslims, Aiman Mazyek, said his council would not call for a ban on the anthem, but would like "an explanation of its background".
The song is called "Blue and White, how I love you" and in German the lyrics about Muhammad read: Mohammed war ein Prophet, der vom Fussballspielen nichts versteht. Doch aus all der schoenen Farbenpracht hat er sich das Blau und Weisse ausgedacht.
The German news website Deutsche Welle says the song was written in 1924 and it is not clear when the Muhammad reference made its way in.
You guys need to give it a break, seriously. Concentrate on those who use Islam as justification for murder, rape and torture. There are more important things to worry about.
Oh yeah! I've heard about this also! Me and some brothers did petition and send many mails to the club's PR, but we did not get any respond. Insha'allahu ta'ala everything will be okay and nothing bad is gonna happen - of course it is our duty to protect the honour of Rasulullah, peace and blessings be upon him, his honour is also our honour. The Sahabi would fight until the last man for his protection, and we'll do it the same way insha'allah! It makes me really sad that this anti-islam campaign reached that level! It is a war against islam!
You guys need to give it a break, seriously. Concentrate on those who use Islam as justification for murder, rape and torture. There are more important things to worry about.
Who are the "you guys?" Those who got angry or us on the forum, or you mean every single Muslim you do not know? Way to generalize.
format_quote Originally Posted by convert
i mean, uh, its not really insulting per say but it is quite odd why the Prophet's (saw) name is there in the first place
Yea just what I was thinking. Allahu Alam though. It is a question to ask, why is it there? Indirect insult? I don't know.
*Without Allah, without Islam, life would be meaningless. If I've ever learned patience, it's because of this. Alhamdulillah...*
Meh I hate football. Whoever was chanting this German football song sound like hooligans.
I agree with Light of Heaven. Sounds like an indirect insult.
I'm not angry, just rather tired of seeing our religion in the spot light. Can we live in peace for crying out loud? -_-;;
It is extremely annoying.
format_quote Originally Posted by Black Pool
You guys need to give it a break, seriously. Concentrate on those who use Islam as justification for murder, rape and torture. There are more important things to worry about.
We didn't do anything this time. O_o
If they are doing to indirectly insult or mention our Prophet in a negative aspect, then be prepared at least for a reaction or criticism.
Last edited by GuestFellow; 08-05-2009 at 04:05 PM.
I was looking at myself talking to myself and I realized this conversation...I was having with myself looking at myself was a conversation with myself that I needed to have with myself.
Oh yeah! I've heard about this also! Me and some brothers did petition and send many mails to the club's PR, but we did not get any respond. Insha'allahu ta'ala everything will be okay and nothing bad is gonna happen - of course it is our duty to protect the honour of Rasulullah, peace and blessings be upon him, his honour is also our honour. The Sahabi would fight until the last man for his protection, and we'll do it the same way insha'allah! It makes me really sad that this anti-islam campaign reached that level! It is a war against islam!
What utter rubbish! There's nothing 'offensive' here at all unless somebody busts a gut actively seeking it. Had you bothered to read the story you will see that the song was written in 1924, and nobody these days even knows why Mohammed was mentioned.
'War against Islam?' "fight to the last man"? GROW UP!! Or if you already have, at least try and develop a sense of proportion!
What utter rubbish! There's nothing 'offensive' here at all unless somebody busts a gut actively seeking it. Had you bothered to read the story you will see that the song was written in 1924, and nobody these days even knows why Mohammed was mentioned.
'War against Islam?' "fight to the last man"? GROW UP!! Or if you already have, at least try and develop a sense of proportion!
Why do you get so mad? Truth is hurting, isn't it? ^^ I know when the song was written, but was it always used like that? and do not try to change the meaning! If it was utter rubbish, you would not respond this way!
the song was written in 1924, and nobody these days even knows why Mohammed was mentioned.
The last sentence from the article implies that, although the song was written in 1924, the reference to Muhammad (peace be upon him) appeared some time afterwards.
"I spent thirty years learning manners, and I spent twenty years learning knowledge."
the orginal text was written for Schlumpfhausen and this was in 1924 but Schalke adapted this text and changed and what was the change?? wanna guess? next time, do more research!!
Bro it is not to you! it is the respond to trumble!
Oh yeah! I've heard about this also! Me and some brothers did petition and send many mails to the club's PR, but we did not get any respond. Insha'allahu ta'ala everything will be okay and nothing bad is gonna happen - of course it is our duty to protect the honour of Rasulullah, peace and blessings be upon him, his honour is also our honour. The Sahabi would fight until the last man for his protection, and we'll do it the same way insha'allah! It makes me really sad that this anti-islam campaign reached that level! It is a war against islam!
What utter rubbish! There's nothing 'offensive' here at all unless somebody busts a gut actively seeking it. Had you bothered to read the story you will see that the song was written in 1924, and nobody these days even knows why Mohammed was mentioned.
'War against Islam?' "fight to the last man"? GROW UP!! Or if you already have, at least try and develop a sense of proportion!
Too much sugar today?
*Without Allah, without Islam, life would be meaningless. If I've ever learned patience, it's because of this. Alhamdulillah...*
What utter rubbish! There's nothing 'offensive' here at all unless somebody busts a gut actively seeking it. Had you bothered to read the story you will see that the song was written in 1924, and nobody these days even knows why Mohammed was mentioned.
'War against Islam?' "fight to the last man"? GROW UP!! Or if you already have, at least try and develop a sense of proportion!
format_quote Originally Posted by Light of Heaven
Too much sugar today?
I think so.
I was looking at myself talking to myself and I realized this conversation...I was having with myself looking at myself was a conversation with myself that I needed to have with myself.
I could post the orginal song! but it is really sacrilegious May allah ta'ala forgive me well here is it:
Blau und Weiß, wie lieb ich Dich
(Text und Musik: Papa Schlumpf / 1924)
Blau und Weiß, wie lieb ich Dich
Blau und Weiß, verlass mich nicht
Blau und Weiß ist ja der Pimmel nur
Blau und Weiß ist unsere Schlumpfgarnitur
Hätten wir ein Königreich
Machten wir es den Schlümpfen gleich
Schlumpfine, die so jung und schön
Müsste in Blau und Weiß spazieren gehn
Mohammed war ein Prophet
Der vom Schlumpfen nichts versteht
Doch aus all der schönen Farbenpracht
Hat er sich das Blau und Weiße ausgedacht
Tausend Feuer in der Nacht
Haben uns das große Glück gebracht
Tausend Freunde, die zusammenstehn
Dann wird Schlumpfhausen niemals untergehn.
Now you see what I mean! A non muslim has eyes, but he is blind! It does not matter in what time it was written! The religion of Allah ta'ala had always its enmies!
You guys need to give it a break, seriously. Concentrate on those who use Islam as justification for murder, rape and torture. There are more important things to worry about.
I tend to agree here as there is worse, the problem is that with footy the fans are now likely to try and be offensive whreas b4, they were just being ignorant. Football chants are designed to get reaction and to tuant but this doesnt strike me as being outright offensive, but then I suppose there was a need for some sort of response. The trouble is with world cup next yr, this is the sort of thing that can cause big problems when playing muslim countries such as Turkey, Turkish hooligans are great in number and unrelenting in their attacks when they believe they have been wronged. I just hope all will be ok next yr
"O ye who belive! Endure, outdo all others in endurance, be ready, and observe your duty to Allah, in order that you may succeed"
I am not sure why they are putting the prophet at all in any song about anything?
what nonsense is this?
I personally don't want to concentrate of the ones using Islam for 'murder or rape' as per above, you concoct and give enough air time to the brouhaha for anything to be left over for us to comment on.
what an incredible preoccupation and sickness presides in their heart ..
sob7an Allah
Text without context is pretext If your opponent is of choleric temperament, seek to irritate him
no connection, it is a dumb song chanted by dumb people!
personally, i think that the football (soccer) fans are the craziest of all sports fan.. months before we had a riot at a stadium where they burnt cars..
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