... This video doesn't provide any facts to support its claim that Israel is harvesting organs in Haiti. This is just the paranoid ramblings of some man associated with AfriSynergy Productions.
Israel has provided financial aid, search and rescue services and has sent its police force for peacekeeping - They've done more than any Islamic countries! Yet it seems you couldn't pass at the opportunity to slander Israel with baseless lies.
Totally agree.
Naidamar, that story has nothing to do with aid efforts in Haiti. Appalling as it is, that 'trade' is widespread across the world driven by people whose only religion is money. Would you like some examples of so-called muslims who are 'disobedient towards God's laws'?!
Naidamar, that story has nothing to do with aid efforts in Haiti. Appalling as it is, that 'trade' is widespread across the world driven by people whose only religion is money. Would you like some examples of so-called muslims who are 'disobedient towards God's laws'?!
O-ooo... this is typical way to some people to justify crimes and wrong-doings of some people (whose they may support) against any critique - as blaming what some criticers have done or haven´t done.
One of the poorest people in the islamic world have collected help to Haiti - Palestinians in Gaza, even they are living under occupation in they open-air prison, controlled by same zionists, whose are so interesting to harvest organs.
MP Khudari initiates fund-raising campaign for Haiti
[ 18/01/2010 - 11:17 AM ]
GAZA, (PIC)-- MP Jamal Al-Khudari, the head of the popular committee against the siege, has announced the start of a campaign to collect donations for the devastated Caribbean nation Haiti on Monday.
Khudari in a press release on Sunday said that the Palestinian people, more than any other people, feel and sympathize with the tragic conditions in Haiti following the devastating earthquake.
He said that the Palestinians were the victim of unprecedented crimes at the hands of the Israeli occupation for many decades that included siege, aggression and closure of crossings and roads.
He said that the initiative by the popular committee and the Waed society for prisoners would kick off at the weekly sit-in staged by relatives of prisoners at the Red Cross headquarters in Gaza city on Monday.
The lawmaker said that the campaign reflects the humanitarian feelings of beleaguered Gaza with the victims of the massive earthquake that struck Haiti almost a week ago.
The initiative would appeal to the world to act and end the oppression befalling the Palestine people and to support them, Khudari underlined.
The world that moved to help the stricken people of Haiti should also remember the tragedy of the Palestine people who are the target of repeated disasters at the hands of the Israeli occupation, the MP elaborated.
He finally described the campaign as a message of peace and love to the peoples of the world.
Any way; it is same if you believe the truth or not with - moving discussion to "so-called muslims who are 'disobedient towards God's laws'" is off topic. In this thread we are talking zionists whose are harvesting organs, if I may remind.
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From Occupied Palestine:
We have suffered too much for too long. We will not accept apartheid masked as peace. We will settle for no less than our freedom.
One of the poorest people in the islamic world have collected help to Haiti - Palestinians in Gaza, even they are living under occupation in they open-air prison, controlled by same zionists, whose are so interesting to harvest organs.
Mashallah that's very nice of the people of Gaza to lend a helping hand to the Haitians when they themselves are poor and in need of help.
salam
Naidamar, that story has nothing to do with aid efforts in Haiti.
I know that, but it very much has relevance with the essence of the story: organs harvesting and trading by israelis.
Appalling as it is, that 'trade' is widespread across the world driven by people whose only religion is money. Would you like some examples of so-called muslims who are 'disobedient towards God's laws'?!
I'm sure you know that rabbis are not just any ordinary jews, and it seems you have more than enough knowledge to know what kind of authority did the rabbis who arrested held.
Israel is known for it's dirty deeds.
Israeli Organ Trafficking and Theft in palestine. Sure there is no evidence for this also but how do you explain 'Israeli organ trade scandal caught by Sweden Donald Bostrom the selling of human body parts'?
This brave Journalist stood up to Zionist death threats and the Prime minister of Israel himself demanding he be silenced and gagged, he now appears on TV and demolishes the Israeli spokesperson.
Then why would Israel let this GOLDEN opportunity pass by?
Besides why would this American make false claims against Israel? What does he hold against them? He is not a muslim or a palestinian.
These are cold, hard facts and if you want to stick your fingers in your ears and sing to yourself, you can do, but it doesn't change the facts.
Exactly as you said, there is no evidence.
Why would an American not make false claims against Israel? Are you saying 100% of Americans support Israel? Has this man even been to Haiti!?
You say he is not Muslim or Palestinian - Why does this matter? Are only Muslims allowed to disagree with Israel?
There are no cold, hard facts. Israel has done plenty of bad things, yet there is absolutely no evidence of organ harvesting in Haiti.
And the video you gave a link to, at the start the man even said "It's not up to me to have any evidence, I'm not convinced even that it happens."
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Why would an American not make false claims against Israel? Are you saying 100% of Americans support Israel? Has this man even been to Haiti!?
There are no cold, hard facts. Israel has done plenty of bad things, yet there is absolutely no evidence of organ harvesting in Haiti.
And the video you gave a link to, at the start the man even said "It's not up to me to have any evidence, I'm not convinced even that it happens."
This is off topic but why is it that when it comes to claims against Israel and America people need cold hard evidence but when it comes to Muslims destroying the world trade center they don't?
Israel and America are powerful countries with an ability to remove possible evidence.
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You say he is not Muslim or Palestinian - Why does this matter? Are only Muslims allowed to disagree with Israel?.
Muslims are against Israel because of its illegitimate rule over palestine.
Why is this guy making false claims against Israel then? Is he crazy?
This is off topic but why is it that when it comes to claims against Israel and America people need cold hard evidence but when it comes to Muslims destroying the world trade center they don't?
Israel and America are powerful countries with an ability to remove possible evidence.
Muslims are against Israel because of its illegitimate rule over palestine.
Why is this guy making false claims against Israel then? Is he crazy?
There is plenty of evidence, you choose to deliberately ignore it. Al-Qaeda were known to have been planning celebrations before the event even happened. Read 'Inside the Kingdom' by Robert Lacey.
You say Israel could remove evidence - This just sounds like an excuse to demonise Israel despite a total lack of evidence.
This man states no facts! He probably hasn't even been to Haiti, where on Earth is he getting his information from that is being hidden from the rest of the World? if you look at the videos the group he is associated with has published, it's just full of anti-Israel propaganda. He clearly has some agenda to push.
There is plenty of evidence, you choose to deliberately ignore it. Al-Qaeda were known to have been planning celebrations before the event even happened. Read 'Inside the Kingdom' by Robert Lacey..
You believe this to be conclusive evidence?
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You say Israel could remove evidence - This just sounds like an excuse to demonise Israel despite a total lack of evidence..
I don't need to provide evidence when Israel admits harvesting organs from Palestinians, and others in the past. My point is why are the claims made by an American about Israel harvesting organs in Haiti completely rejected when they have done this in the past? Do you see what i mean?
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This man states no facts! He probably hasn't even been to Haiti, where on Earth is he getting his information from that is being hidden from the rest of the World? if you look at the videos the group he is associated with has published, it's just full of anti-Israel propaganda. He clearly has some agenda to push.
..and hence the question why would he be against Israel?
Seems zionists don´t want that "wrong" people help Haiti:
Khudari: IOA did not respond to our request to send aid to Haiti
[ 23/01/2010 - 09:43 AM ]
GAZA, (PIC)-- MP Jamal Al-Khudari, the head of the popular anti siege committee, has said that the Israeli occupation authority (IOA) did not respond so far to his committee's request for sending relief material to the victims of the devastating earthquake in Haiti.
Khudari said in a press release that a request was made with the committee coordinating entry of goods into Gaza and no response was yet available from the IOA.
The MP said that the symbolic assistance was loaded in a truck, noting that it comprised foodstuff, clothes and covers donated by the besieged people in Gaza.
He said that the assistance reflects the Gazan people's sympathy with the pains of the victims in Haiti and a humanitarian message from the victims in Gaza, who more than others sympathize with Haiti because they have been victims of Israeli aggression for decades.
Khudari said that if the Palestinians had the potentials they would have donated much more than that, yet despite their poverty and siege they offered whatever they could to tell the world that they send relief material to Haiti and that they deserve similar attention from the world.
The popular committee handed the collected donations to the Red Cross.
... This video doesn't provide any facts to support its claim that Israel is harvesting organs in Haiti. This is just the paranoid ramblings of some man associated with AfriSynergy Productions.
Israel has provided financial aid, search and rescue services and has sent its police force for peacekeeping - They've done more than any Islamic countries! Yet it seems you couldn't pass at the opportunity to slander Israel with baseless lies.
I posted the video to demonstrate the extent that Israel is willing to go through to mar the reputation of one man and his organization for exposing their organ harvest which was caught on videos, and that is what the other gentleman in the video is talking about, amongst other things.
If you want to see more than one source on this expose, all you have to do but google:
it isn't a big secret nor a ''conspiracy theory'' or the first time they have done this, for one to sweep it under some propagandist umbrella.. you are free to believe what you choose at the end of the day!
all the best!
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I don't need to provide evidence when Israel admits harvesting organs from Palestinians, and others in the past. My point is why are the claims made by an American about Israel harvesting organs in Haiti completely rejected when they have done this in the past? Do you see what i mean?
..and hence the question why would he be against Israel?
There is plenty of evidence, that was just a single piece I happened to be reading right now.
Yes, you do need to provide evidence. You can't just assume Israel is doing something wrong without providing evidence.
I know they have done it in the past however that is not a form of evidence to suggest that they are doing it in the present. This is just the ramblings of one man who has no evidence to support his claims.
There are many reasons why he could be against Israel, perhaps he doesn't admire oppressive countries that try to constantly expand their borders while murdering thousands of civilians. I don't know his particular reason but it doesn't mean he can just spread lies about Israelis that are genuinely helping those in need in Haiti.
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I posted the video to demonstrate the extent that Israel is willing to go through to mar the reputation of one man and his organization for exposing their organ harvest which was caught on videos, and that is what the other gentleman in the video is talking about, amongst other things.
If you want to see more than one source on this expose, all you have to do but google:
it isn't a big secret nor a ''conspiracy theory'' or the first time they have done this, for one to sweep it under some propagandist umbrella.. you are free to believe what you choose at the end of the day!
all the best!
They don't need Israel's help in having their reputation marred.
Yes, I checked Google before I posted and their is still no evidence. They are either news websites that are commenting on the video such as PressTV or news websites that mention the admission that Israel harvested organs in the early 90s and only show up for these keywords because they have a separate article about the recent Haiti earthquake. There is not a single reputable source that can provide evidence that Israel has harvested organs in Haiti.
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