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    UK - "conservatives" plan legalization of homosexual marriages.

    Nick Herbert, minister of environment in conservative shadow cabint, said that after they win the elections, one of conservatives' priorities will be legalization of marriages of homosexuals and allowing them to adopt children. The conservative minister said this last week in Washington, during the conference "Is there a place for gays in conservatism and conservative politics". The meeting took place in libertarian Cato Institute.

    Brittish conservatives, according to their leader, David Cameron, doctrine, want to gain new electorate, by resignation from conservative attitude and focusing on social matters. They want to achieve also support from homosexuals and lesbians. "The gays are not property of Left nor any party" said Herbert recently.

    The representer of brittish conservatives said later in "The Metro News" that acceptance of equality programme from gays and lesbians is important also because of the need to push the politics forward. He also admitted that after the won of elections, the conservative goverment would struggle for legalization of homosexual marriages. It is expected also by some religious communities, for example Quakers who want to celebrate the homoexual weddings.

    Herbert also said that the major goal of the state is to protect the individual laws of the citizens and protectng them from harm. Thats why heterosexuals can't be treated in special way. The issue of equality is a priority of modern world and the necessary element of modern conservatism.

    The conservative minister praised recently conservative leader David Cameron for modernization of the party.

    Herbert is a homosexual, he is in a civl union with other man.

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    Re: Homo- conservatism in Great Britain

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    Furthermore, AFAIK, same sex marriage was a common practise long ago before the appearance of the Abrahamic religions and has remained since so.
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    Re: Homo- conservatism in Great Britain

    format_quote Originally Posted by ★ηαѕιнα★ View Post
    I dunno about that...when they planned making it legal her in Holland it got through didnt it? In the US its legal as well in some states. England could just be next on the list (which I think will grow as time goes by). Its one of the signs of judgement day.
    Yeah, thats because its Holland! Sorry but I always think of a Harry Enfield sketch when people talk about laws in Holland (only for over 16s).
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    Re: Homo- conservatism in Great Britain

    I wonder what would the Anglican church say about that future legalization.

    When the western world legalize sodomite relationships, the progressive, liberal activists won't stop their work, because the battle for Freedom(for all), Equality(for all) and Tolerance(for all) hasn't finished yet.
    There is still fascism in Europe, intolerance and medieval attitude.

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    Re: Homo- conservatism in Great Britain

    format_quote Originally Posted by Skavau View Post

    I was somewhat under the impression that Islam, or at least some Muslims did not have as much of an issue with abortion as Christians do. Irrespectively, I have little problem with people have sexual intercourse for pleasure and deliberately taking steps to avoid pregnancy. There is a problem though indeed with under 18 births.
    Abortion is strictly forbidden in normal circumstances.

    For example, eating pork is strictly forbidden in four places.

    Surah Al-Baqarah [2:173]
    Surah Al-Mā'idah [5:3]
    Surah Al-'An`ām [6:45]
    Surah An-Naĥl [16:115]

    Except, if you are forced to do so. For example, if you are stuck with no food and the only thing you can eat is pork, then it becomes allowed for you for that time only. As soon as you are able to eat normal prescribed foods, then pork becomes forbidden again.

    Like this, abortion is strictly forbidden.

    Surah Al-'An`ām [6:151]
    Surah Al-'Isrā' [17:31]

    - unless it poses a threat to the mother, as in Islam life of the mother is more precious as she is who brings the child into being. You cannot sacrifice a greater loss for a smaller loss.

    For example, if the mother will die, then the baby must be aborted.
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    Re: Homo- conservatism in Great Britain

    format_quote Originally Posted by Amadeus85 View Post
    UK - "conservatives" plan legalization of homosexual marriages.



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    When islam conquers UK (and the question is only when), I will shed no single tear. At least islamic England would respect divine natural law.
    You ought to sell this post to the Daily Mail. They could run with it as an example of why Islam is incompatible with multiculturalism.
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    Re: Homo- conservatism in Great Britain

    format_quote Originally Posted by Musliman View Post
    Really ? What makes you say this ? Only Allah knows the judgement day and we have the "big signs" which have not shown up yet
    Seriously theres a hadieth about this. Does anyone have it by any chance?
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    Re: Homo- conservatism in Great Britain

    format_quote Originally Posted by barney View Post
    You ought to sell this post to the Daily Mail. They could run with it as an example of why Islam is incompatible with multiculturalism.
    I am also incompatible with this
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    Nick Herbert, minister of environment in conservative shadow cabint, said that after they win the elections, one of conservatives' priorities will be legalization of marriages of homosexuals and allowing them to adopt children.
    Allowing them to adopt children? SubhaanAllah, where is this world heading to...
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    Re: Homo- conservatism in Great Britain

    format_quote Originally Posted by _muslim_ View Post
    Allowing them to adopt children? SubhaanAllah, where is this world heading to...
    Same in Holland!
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    Re: Homo- conservatism in Great Britain

    format_quote Originally Posted by ★ηαѕιнα★ View Post
    Same in Holland!
    Don't they sell sex workers openly in Holland.. I know so many open for liberalism Americans who just absolutely despised it there + usually warn elderly couple who set to travel that they might be terribly uncomfortable there looking at jarring images and open drugs around the clock.

    Holland is a poster country for lewdness!

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    That's good news. Now people with conservatives views who support same-sex marriage can vote.
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    Re: Homo- conservatism in Great Britain

    format_quote Originally Posted by ★ηαѕιнα★ View Post
    Same in Holland!
    There is a legal peadophil party in this country.
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    Re: Homo- conservatism in Great Britain

    format_quote Originally Posted by Gossamer skye View Post
    Don't they sell sex workers openly in Holland.. I know so many open for liberalism Americans who just absolutely despised it there + usually warn elderly couple who set to travel that they might be terribly uncomfortable there looking at jarring images and open drugs around the clock.

    Holland is a poster country for lewdness!

    Thats why I want to make hidrjah inshallah. I do NOT want my children to grow up here. Its terrible alhamdoellilah.
    And its not only on the streets but also on TV. Do you know I cant watch TV with my dad around? Thats what made me stop watching TV. I only do on sundays and then only Discovery Channel and Animal Planet and such. Thats the only "safe" ones and you can actually learn new important stuff there.
    And you know what: when you stop watching TV then you really notice how far gone this world is. News I only hear from my dad, sibblings, teachers and classmates. Other than that I have compeltely cutt myself of from that influences. I Dont read the newspaper. Maybe only when I find one in the bus and have nothing else to do. Seriously you should try not watching TV for like a month, then the bad developments really start to be clearer then ever.
    The last day is near alhamdoelillah.
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    Re: Homo- conservatism in Great Britain

    format_quote Originally Posted by Froggy View Post
    That's good news. Now people with conservatives views who support same-sex marriage can vote.
    May I ask something... Don't take it in a bad way. You're entitled to have your opinion. You call that good news, is a child without a mother such a fascinating idea?
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    is a child without a mother such a fascinating idea?
    Are you referring to adoption or to gay marriage?
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    Re: Homo- conservatism in Great Britain

    format_quote Originally Posted by _muslim_ View Post
    May I ask something... Don't take it in a bad way. You're entitled to have your opinion. You call that good news, is a child without a mother such a fascinating idea?
    It is the best idea.. women are but incubators!
    who better to raise a child than two fruit loops?

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    format_quote Originally Posted by titus View Post
    Are you referring to adoption or to gay marriage?
    Adoption. Nonetheless if gay marriage will be legalized their rights to adoption will eventually follow up... My deepst sympathies goes out to the innocent kids who must suffer from others lack of empathy.
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    Re: Homo- conservatism in Great Britain

    Disbelievers will never accept the of true religion of allah, they can accept everything from gay marriages to incest and openly promote zina
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    Re: Homo- conservatism in Great Britain

    format_quote Originally Posted by Amadeus85 View Post
    There is a legal peadophil party in this country.

    Where, in Holland? Yeah was some heavy news a few years ago though we dont hear much from them now. Or did you mean in your own country?
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    format_quote Originally Posted by _muslim_ View Post
    Adoption. Nonetheless if gay marriage will be legalized their rights to adoption will eventually follow up... My deepst sympathies goes out to the innocent kids who must suffer from others lack of empathy.
    Hello _Muslim_, I have missed you so much, how have you been doing since "that" last time ? I wanted to send you a PM, but unfortunately I should post at least fifty messages on board.

    Just wanted to clarify something, gay marriage does not necessarily mean adoption rights, as far as I know, Portugal for instance voted two months ago for the legalization of same sex marriage but not adoption rights. As you can find countries which provide rights to adopt but not marriage.

    Example of Europe here

    format_quote Originally Posted by Adib Shaikh View Post
    Disbelievers will never accept the of true religion of allah, they can accept everything from gay marriages to incest and openly promote zina
    Not really, don't confuse gay marriage with incest, incestuous acts are abhorred and are illegal in almost all countries in the world, and it is a choice.
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