Following in the tradition of bigots everywhere, a Florida church is preparing to hold a book-burning. Not just any book; the Quran.
Dove World Outreach Center is a non-denominational evangelical church in Gainesville, Florida. They have announced a special celebration of the 9th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks . . . something that will show Christian love, reduce hatred between people of different religions, and lead toward greater understanding around the world. Or not.
Dove will host “International Burn a Quran Day” on September 11, 2010. Pastor Terry Jones says the idea came, in part, from the recent success of “Everybody Draw Muhammad Day”. He comments that “We feel, as Christians, one of our jobs is to warn,” and that burning the holy books of another religion will provide Muslims an opportunity to convert.
Jones missed the point of Everybody Draw. That event, in response to the irrational attacks (including physical assaults, attempted murder, attempted arson, and successful murder) on Western cartoonists, authors, and filmmakers who drew or otherwise criticized Muhammad, Islam’s prophet, was intended to communicate to radical Islamists that Westerners would not cave to their demands of censorship.
International Burn is not about freedom of expression. It is about hatred of Islam, not just the radical actions of some Muslims.
Jones is author of a book, Islam Is of the Devil. The book’s title reflects a sign placed outside Dove World Outreach, and explains Jones’s history working to “free souls from Islam”. He further explains how his church uses the congregation’s children as political pawns, sending them to school wearing shirts saying “Jesus is the Way” on the front, and “Islam is of the Devil” in the back.
Jones and his congregation have chosen to take an action that will not convert Muslims to Christianity. It will only serve to fan the flames of hatred, enraging even moderate Muslims.
He comments that “We feel, as Christians, one of our jobs is to warn,” and that burning the holy books of another religion will provide Muslims an opportunity to convert.
ooh ya what a perfect way to convert people!
Allah will take care of them.
"Allâh is sufficient for me. None has the right to be worshiped but He, in Him I put my trust and He is the Lord of the Mighty Throne."[Tawbah: 129]
They can do what they want, the words will always remain of the Noble word of Allaah SWT
They will surely get what they deserve, and Indeed Allaah is watching them every second of their lives, May Allaah guide them,Ameen
They will cry tears when they realise Islaam is the truth!, since theyre led by the Shaytaan i doubt that! May Allaah guide them to the true way of Life Ameen
SubhaanAllaah
"Allah! La ilaha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He), Al-Hayyul-Qayyum (the Ever Living, the One Who sustains and protects all that exists).".."[Al Qur'aan 3:2]
SubhaanAllaah how can they do this , Allaah created them, gave them life and shall take their life for their LORD only comes in Peace, but the Kufaar they truely have this heart that deserves to see the Anger of Allaah
Again Allaah says in Surah Ar-Rahmaan "Which of the favours of your do you deny" SubhaanAllaah
This is when the Muslims get angry for defending their deen of the beloved of Allaah Sallahu alaayhi wa salam, then we are named Terrorists so upsetting SubhaanAllaah
060.008 God forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) Faith
nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for God
loves those who are just.
060.009 God only forbids you, with regard to those who fight you for (your) Faith,
and drive you out of your homes, and support (others) in driving you out, from
turning to them (for friendship and protection). It is such as turn to them (in these
circumstances), that do wrong.[Surah Al Mumtahanah (The women to be examined)
Wa`Alaaykum Salaam
"Allah! La ilaha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He), Al-Hayyul-Qayyum (the Ever Living, the One Who sustains and protects all that exists).".."[Al Qur'aan 3:2]
“All day I think about it, then at night I say it. Where did I come from, and what am I supposed to be doing? I have no idea. My soul is from elsewhere, I'm sure of that, and I intend to end up there.”
Dont worry yourself over bigots. Im sure they are minority, i hope they are. karma: what goes around comes around. Ishlallah they will get what they deserve.
The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said: "Help your brother, whether he is an oppressor or he is an oppressed one.." [Bukhaari].
The Dove church is a local Gainesville hate group hiding behind religion. They actually do not claim any religious affiliation with any known religion. If they worship anything it is hate and their "Pastor" Terry Jones. For them to use the Dove as a symbol of their belief is an oxymoron. A rabid dog would be more appropriate for that group of morons. The only reason they do not use the name KKK is because none of them are smart enough to know how to spell KKK.
They are a hate group and we should not dignify them by calling them by any religious name. Let us see them for what they are, bigots and haters.It is not just us them idiots hate, they have hatred for anybody not the same color as them or does not share their hatred against the rest of mankind. Terry Jones is from the same mold Jim Jones was cast from. Wonder if this group will also drink strychnine laced kool aid.
Every time I think I heard about the dumbest people on earth an even dumber group pops up.
I am so sorry to hear that people should use the name of Christianity, to burn the Holy Scriptures from people of another faith.
We need to pray for each other.
Blessings and peace be with you
Eric
You will never look into the eyes of anyone who does not matter to God.
You know this very provoking... However, I want to ask a question about it, what do you think they would say if a group of muslims start burning other religions books?
I wonder why these Evangelists don't burn the Torah and a few synagogues? Florida is very popular with Jewish old folk, maybe that would convert them to Christianity. Or maybe they could have a crusade and clean out the USA of any other religion, make everybody kiss the Cross or get thrown on a fire. Any survivors who get to Canada or Mexico can call it Holocaust 2. The US is a very scary place where anything can happen.
The Quran is pro Jesus it's not the Grand Grimoire so what's with these nutters?
This is rather silly. Muslims over react and riot over drawing a cartoon, so people give muslims something to legitimately react and riot over. Just dumb.
To go back to the original topic of a church organizing the burning of the Qu'ran, I think that is an utterly despicable thing to do!
Nobody should be allowed to destroy what they know is sacred and holy to somebody else - even if it goes against ones own beliefs.
I posted this to a forum member via PM a couple of days ago, and I will post it publically here now:
Greetings
I need you to know that not every Christian agrees with the notion of burning the Qu'ran! In fact, my guess would be that the majority think it is pointless at best and very damaging and disrespectful.
The story has only just come to my attention.
I am very sorry that people behave in such a way, and I can only begin to understand how upsetting it must be!
I would never ever condone such actions in my own church, and I would speak out against them.
Do you think Muslims would ever resort to burning the Bible?
May there be peace between our faiths.
I found these comments on facebook:
"A misguided pastor in Florida is hosting a 'burn the Koran' day in
Florida this sept. 11th. Instead I want to encourage all my Christian,
Jewish, Muslim and Atheist friends (ETC!) to engage in a Scripture
Exchange Program' where we host dinners and share our favorite bits of
our own traditions with each other in a space of respect, joy and mutual
inquiry."
We are all children of Abraham... If we don't talk and learn we will only misunderstand and fight. To give peace a chance we must BE people of peace.
How about a "burn a fundamentalist pastor day.?" (did I say that out loud?
Oxford (UK) has an annual friendship walk, where Jews, Muslims and Christians walk together through the city, starting from the Synagogue, going via one of the central churches and ending up at the mosque for a meal.
Let’s find opportunities...
That is awful! I am glad my pastor does a lot of interfaith work, I couldn't imagine going to such a hate filled church!!!
etc etc
There is more, but I just wanted you to see that not all people are condoning it!
Salaam
Peace glo
Here I stand.
I can do no other.
May God help me.
Amen.
Come, let us worship and bow down •
and kneel before the Lord our Maker
[Psalm 95]
The arabs were originally upon the religion of Abraham, that is why they still had traces of his religion mixed in with their polytheism because of the fact they used to follow the religion of Abraham before idols were introduced. They used to be monotheistic but there was a man who of high status among the Arabs, he would feed the pilgrims etc and do many good deeds so the people respected him and looked up to him and listened to what he said, when he want to a far way land I can't remember which he was introduced to idolatry and he thought to him self "What a good idea this is, can you make an idol for me to take back" so when he went back he put an idol in the kab'a and slowly more idols were introduced and this is how they deviated from the religion of Abraham.
They even believed in and acknowledged Allah however they said "we're too impure to ask Allah directly so we use these idols as intercessors" You see it was Abraham and his son who built the kaba as a house of worship for God. And it stayed monotheistic untill many years down the line idols were introduced but when Muhammed (saw) came he brought the religion back to pure montheism. This is what Abraham was on also. So this explains why the pagan Arabs had the pilgrimage and stuff because their religion was the religion of Abraham however idols had been introduced.
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“Who said that guidance requires there to be someone accompanying you"
"Verily We: It is We Who have sent down the Dhikr (i.e. the Quran) and surely, We will guard it"
Allah , The One Who Belongs To Him all Might and Majesty will guard His Book from being forgotten from beingcorrupted and from everything would affects its message and goal...
let them burn it, what will happen if they did?
Is Islam going to disappear? Are we going to forget the words of Allah?Are we going to worship someone else than Allah The One, The Self-Sufficient Master, Whom all creatures need, Who neither eats nor drinks,Who begets not, nor was He begotten; and there is none co-equal or comparable unto Him?(My Lord! I seek refuge with You from being a disbeliever or a follower of the satan)...
Qur`aan is everywhere and in our hearts and will always be , filling our hearts lives and guiding us to the path of the truth , happiness and Allah`s saticfaction...
Cheer up and don`t worry, they are doing this only to fill your hearts with anger and rage , to make you fall in mistakes to prove for others that Muslims are violent terrors and the Main cause of misery and all bad things in this world...but we as Muslims as the servants and slaves of Allah as the Ummah of Muhammad Bin Abdillah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) as the nation of Qur`aan as the best of peoples ever raised up for mankind striving for Allah`s cause and submitting our selves for our Creator, obeying Allah with humility ; must be patient and follow the commandments of Allah not worring at all about such meaningless things ...
Allah says:
"You shall certainly be tried and tested in your wealth and properties and in your personal selves, and you shall certainly hear much that will grieve you from those who received the Scripture before you (Jews and Christians) and from those who ascribe partners to Allah, but if you persevere patiently, and become Al-Muttaqun (the pious - see V. 2:2) then verily, that will be a determining factor in all affairs, and that is from the great matters, [which you must hold on with all your efforts]. (186) "
Surat Aal Im`raan
and says:
"And your Ilah (God) is One Ilah (God Allah), so you must submit to Him Alone (in Islam). And (O Muhammad SAW) give glad tidings to the Mukhbitin [those who obey Allah with humility and are humble from among the true believers of Islamic Monotheism], (34) Whose hearts are filled with fear when Allah is mentioned; who patiently bear whatever may befall them (of calamities); and who perform As-Salat (Iqamat-as-Salat), and who spend (in Allah's Cause) out of what We have provided them. (35)"
Surat Al Hajj
Walk in Allah`s way and path and follow the guidance of this Deen otherwise ,you will be lost and will displease The Only One Who deserve to Be worshipped always and for ever...
and remember what Allah says:
"but give glad tidings to As-Sabirin (the patient ones, etc.). (155) Who, when afflicted with calamity, say: "Truly! To Allah we belong and truly, to Him we shall return." (156) They are those on whom are the Salawat (i.e. blessings, etc.) (i.e. who are blessed and will be forgiven) from their Lord, and (they are those who) receive His Mercy, and it is they who are the guided-ones. (157)"
Surat Al Baqarah
Inna lellaah wa inna Ilayhee Raji`oon
Hasbuna Allaah wa Ni`ema Al wakeel
May Allah guide us all before standing for the reckoning in The Day of Judgment...Ameeeeen
You know this very provoking... However, I want to ask a question about it, what do you think they would say if a group of muslims start burning other religions books?
Moot point. I do not believe any genuine follower of Islam would burn another faith's scriptures. We may disagree with them and argue against them, but burn them, I do not see ever happening.
Holy Quran 3:186 Ye shall certainly be tried and tested in your possessions and in your personal selves; and ye shall certainly Hear much that will grieve you, from those who received the Book before you and from those who worship many gods. But if ye persevere patiently, and guard against evil,-then that will be a determining factor in all affairs.
Moot point. I do not believe any genuine follower of Islam would burn another faith's scriptures. We may disagree with them and argue against them, but burn them, I do not see ever happening.
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