Koran-protest pastor Terry Jones invited to UK rally

**Perseveranze** · 12-12-2010

Campaigners are calling for a controversial US pastor to be banned from entering the UK to share his views on Islam with activists.

Terry Jones attracted condemnation when he threatened to burn copies of the Koran on this year's 9/11 anniversary.

He said his presence at an English Defence League rally in February would be "positive" but he admitted he would preach against "extremist Muslims".

Anti-extremist group Hope Not Hate is urging the home secretary to act.

The EDL said on its Facebook page that the rally in Luton, Bedfordshire, on 5 February would be "our biggest to date". It said Mr Jones would be joining the organisation to "speak out against the evils of Islam".

Mr Jones told BBC 5 Live he had "no intention" of burning the Koran in the UK and said his speech would be "on harmony, on the subject that Muslims are welcome in our country".

He said: "We have no problem with Muslims - we have freedom of speech and religion - Muslims who want to make our country their country, obey our laws and constitution.

"We have a problem with them, which I believe you all have also, when they go on the street... and they call for the death of the UK, for the death of Israel, for the death of America. They call for Sharia law.

"They say they are going to turn Buckingham Palace into a mosque and the Queen must convert to Islam or leave the country."
'Intimidation and division'

Mr Jones admitted that his knowledge of the EDL was "somewhat limited".

"It's only what I know through conversations with them that my office has had and then of course the different material in the internet that they have put out. I would describe them as a group who, I believe, in their words they want England to stay English."

Anti-extremist group Hope not Hate condemned the invitation to Mr Jones and has launched a petition calling on the home secretary to ban him from entering the UK.

Its director Nick Lowles said: "Only extremists will benefit from his visit and, as we know, extremism breeds hatred and hatred breeds violence.

"It is yet another example of how the EDL exists only to sow the seeds of intimidation and division."

A Home Office spokesman said: "We do not routinely comment on individual cases."

Home Secretary Theresa May has the power to exclude an individual from coming to the UK if she considers that the individual's presence here would not be conducive to the public good.

Source - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11977945

Hope this Home Secretary stops him from entering, but I doubt it. I think enough damage is already done with the whole Paranoma program and such, most of the British Public are already against Islam, this is just making things worst - all topled together with lies and misconceptions.

**GuestFellow** · 12-15-2010

Originally Posted by أحمد

That's the very problem within some of the western society; whenever innocent people are killed in Iraq, or other coutries- its not even considered worth mentioning, but when one brave soldier dies, while slaughtering many innocents; it makes the headlines.

Some members of the public care more about the soldiers than the civilians. I know some people claim they are against the war but support the troops? That does not make any sense. The government plans and starts the wars and the troops put those plans into practice.

**Dagless** · 12-15-2010

Originally Posted by Guestfellow

Some members of the public care more about the soldiers than the civilians. I know some people claim they are against the war but support the troops? That does not make any sense. The government plans and starts the wars and the troops put those plans into practice.

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**Endymion** · 12-15-2010

Originally Posted by أحمد

Terryrist Jones

I think he is just a little attention seeker.Just ignore him and others like him.They will die their selves

P.s for Terry.
Hey,i studied Psychology when i was in college,i think i can help you

**Perseveranze** · 12-15-2010

Asalaamu Alaikum,

Speaking about the EDL, this is their views on "Islam" -

**SafaAuditore** · 12-15-2010

^ hahaha
Also don't wish him death lool wish that god guides him to the liiight or whatever u guys usually say...or just that god grants him with a half brain =)

**S.Belle** · 12-15-2010

I think Terry Jones is nothing but a big FAIL simple as that.
His actions aren't even what Christians would call "Christian like" and he is just a pot calling the kettle black.

Originally Posted by Guestfellow

I know some people claim they are against the war but support the troops? That does not make any sense.

I'm against the war but I support the troops simply bc I have family in the military and I wish for their safety just as much as I want safety for my brothers/sisters in Islam that are terrorized and innocently killed.

Originally Posted by Guestfellow

The government plans and starts the wars and the troops put those plans into practice.

thats true but they have taken an oath and could get into serious trouble if they fail to carry out the actions that the government has told them....

**GuestFellow** · 12-15-2010

Originally Posted by Mila

I'm against the war but I support the troops simply bc I have family in the military and I wish for their safety just as much as I want safety for my brothers/sisters in Islam that are terrorized and innocently killed.

Well there is a difference between support and wishing not for the troops to get hurt. No one wants anyone to get killed from both sides. That is why people oppose war from the beginning. I may not support the troops but I don't want them to get killed either.

thats true but they have taken an oath and could get into serious trouble if they fail to carry out the actions that the government has told them....

Yes, I understand the dilemma they are in.

**glo** · 12-15-2010

Originally Posted by Perseveranze

Asalaamu Alaikum,

What's sad is the big support the guy is getting from the majority of the non-Muslim British public. He is going to enter the UK.

Getting support from the "majority of the non-Muslim British public"???
Can you please state the source where you got this information from?

Terry Jones was invited (and has since be un-invited) by the EDL, which boasts an active membership of 300-500 people. You call that a "majority of the non-Muslim British public"?

I am sure that the vast majority of the non-Muslim public would wish to have nothing to do with either Terry Jones or the EDL. Both are hateful and spiteful and would do nothing to further and improve to our society.

Thankfully the EDL found Jones too racist and homophobic to be associated with!
I was ready to paint a poster and join the protests.

**Ansariyah** · 12-16-2010

Let him come, nothing he says or wants to do is new to us. We are not shocked or surprised.

**Maryan0** · 12-16-2010

How can anyone take this man seriously? he looks like such a simpleton. Why do we even give these people the time of day. There will always those who try to bring Islam down they existed during the time of the prophet they exist today and will most likely exist in the future.
Salam

**Mike3449** · 12-26-2010

Originally Posted by Gothique

I hate this guy. But what’s even worse is how the people who listen to him agree completely without consideration – no matter what he says, no matter how stupid.
He was like, “Yea, but Islam is not a religion” and everyone cheered. That’s like if you were to kill an entire family, and when asked why you did that, you’d answer, “Yea, but they weren’t human beings”, and everything would be alright.
It really angers me that NOBODY sees the wrong in his words. Like, he has absolutely no evidence backing up his statements. He just blurts out random things, and the other racists cheer for him, agreeing with the crap coming out of his mouth.

Regarding the Muslims blowing themselves up…that’s also stupid. We REAL Muslims can’t even step on ants and kill them. We REAL muslims know that God said, If you kill one man, it’s as if you’ve just killed all of mankind, and if you rescue one man, it’s as if you’ve just rescued all of mankind. That’s what we follow. The psycho’s that blow themselves up are pretty much brainwashed by evil devils in whatever country they skulk in. They’re taken advantage of by evil people, who use their poverty and desperation against them and tell them that they’ll be “rewarded” for it. That’s a lie. When we commit suicide, we go through the pain over and over and over again for the rest of eternity. Killing the “kuffar” isn’t any different. They’re killing innocent people for absolutely no reason. They’re even killing other Muslims. This isn’t the way of Islam this is just blind religion that goes under the name of Islam because they don’t really understand what islam is!

You can't step on an ant? When did that happen?

From what I understand Muslims practice animal sacrifice. The celebration of Eid al-Adha.

**aadil77** · 12-26-2010

Originally Posted by Mike3449

You can't step on an ant? When did that happen?

From what I understand Muslims practice animal sacrifice. The celebration of Eid al-Adha.

lol, you can step on ants, I think the sister has got the wrong idea from a story involving a party of ants

**Mike3449** · 12-26-2010

Originally Posted by Maryan0

How can anyone take this man seriously? he looks like such a simpleton. Why do we even give these people the time of day. There will always those who try to bring Islam down they existed during the time of the prophet they exist today and will most likely exist in the future.
Salam

No one does take him seriously.

The Media just wanted to hype this guy. He has like 40 followers and is the perfect crazy Christian for them to highlight. Probably Conservative too.

The Rev. Wright, Obama's Pastor... is a complete Madman, but the Media did not really shine too bright a light on him because he actually was a Leftist like them.

They did not really count on all the consequences of their actions. Which the Left never ever do. But, the Media would never have given this guy the time of day if he was a Leftist. Never would have heard of him.

**Mike3449** · 12-26-2010

Originally Posted by aadil77

lol, you can step on ants, I think the sister has got the wrong idea from a story involving a party of ants

I tell ya... Did you ever wonder what it meant to believe in God?

**Perseveranze** · 12-26-2010

Originally Posted by Mike3449

I tell ya... Did you ever wonder what it meant to believe in God?

Asalaamu Alaikum(peace be with you)

Everyone must have wondered before their belief in God became firm, it's not a "from today I will believe in God for the sake of it" thing.

And for those that make their belief firm -

"There is no compulsion in religion, for the right way is clearly from the wrong way. Whoever therefore rejects the forces of evil and believes in God, he has taken hold of a support most unfailing, which shall never give way, for God is All Hearing and Knowing." [2:256]

**Muezzin** · 12-26-2010

Originally Posted by Mike3449

You can't step on an ant? When did that happen?

From what I understand Muslims practice animal sacrifice. The celebration of Eid al-Adha.

Was this post intended to completely miss the point of that which it is quoting?

Anyway, I believe the point Gothique was making is that true Muslims are peace-loving and non-violent, you know, that they 'wouldn't hurt a fly'. After all, we are taught that killing one person is like killing all of humanity.

Unless you're arguing Eid al Adha is a slippery slope ending in ripping people's hearts out to offer to the sun, or something.