Re: Gay Couples are to be Allowed to Marry in Churches.
format_quote Originally Posted by aemish
I never understood this before, but why do the Judeo-Christian religions frown upon homosexuality exactly? It seems so petty?
Petty? What do you mean? O_o
I was looking at myself talking to myself and I realized this conversation...I was having with myself looking at myself was a conversation with myself that I needed to have with myself.
Re: Gay Couples are to be Allowed to Marry in Churches.
format_quote Originally Posted by
The stance at the moment is very clear in that places of worship/mosques/churches etc will be able to conduct marriage ceremonies for homosexuals, but don't have to if they choose not to. So it increases the freedom of choice for the couple as well as the places of worship, rather than reducing it. Mosques and churches are not forced to perform marriages for homosexuals, if it goes against their principles and beliefs!
Let me ask you:
Did any of previous laws specifically state that places of worship CANNOT conduct homosexual marriages?
If no, then why all this new legislation necessary?
as it will open the door for gays to sue churches and other places of worships who refuse to conduct homosexual marriages.
Re: Gay Couples are to be Allowed to Marry in Churches.
format_quote Originally Posted by aemish
With all due respect, no one has answered the question..
Basically because in most of these religions God has laid down a set of rules for how we should conduct ourselves and live our lives. This includes rules of marriage, and homosexual unions do not fall under what is permissible in the eyes of God. In Islam too, I think it's stressed that Man was created for Woman, and vice versa... So we should stick to God's plan and rules.
All this hate that pours from these rulings however doesn't really have a lot of religious backing, and usually it's just people using the fact that it's a sin in their religion to be rude and malicious.
Re: Gay Couples are to be Allowed to Marry in Churches.
format_quote Originally Posted by
Basically because in most of these religions God has laid down a set of rules for how we should conduct ourselves and live our lives. This includes rules of marriage, and homosexual unions do not fall under what is permissible in the eyes of God. In Islam too, I think it's stressed that Man was created for Woman, and vice versa... So we should stick to God's plan and rules.
Not only that.
If you read the Qur'an, you will understand how serious the sin is, and how terrible the punishments are. It's all clear and repeated in many ayahs.
format_quote Originally Posted by
All this hate that pours from these rulings however doesn't really have a lot of religious backing, and usually it's just people using the fact that it's a sin in their religion to be rude and malicious.
The hate may not have religious backing, but for certain, acceptance of practicing homosexuals does not have religious backing.
The thing with gay activists is that they force society to be acceptance of their sinful acts. That would be akin of a group of adulterers asking society to accept their lifestyles, respect their choice and to make it a norm.
Re: Gay Couples are to be Allowed to Marry in Churches.
format_quote Originally Posted by τhε ṿαlε'ṡ lïlÿ
isn't it?
look at all the pretty colors!
I never really understood the connection between rainbows and homosexuality...then again, I don't see the point in gay pride parade.
I was looking at myself talking to myself and I realized this conversation...I was having with myself looking at myself was a conversation with myself that I needed to have with myself.
Re: Gay Couples are to be Allowed to Marry in Churches.
format_quote Originally Posted by
Ahhh.. Typical.
I find what is petty is your attitude.
as sis Lily pointed out, you have 14 pages to read from the beginning, and in a previous post many pages ago I even provided links to several previous discussions threads about homosexuality and Islam.
Re: Gay Couples are to be Allowed to Marry in Churches.
format_quote Originally Posted by naidamar
Ahhh.. Typical.
I find what is petty is your attitude.
as sis Lily pointed out, you have 14 pages to read from the beginning, and in a previous post many pages ago I even provided links to several previous discussions threads about homosexuality and Islam.
Read again.
^and I tried to answer your (aemish's) query as well, but you seem to have skipped over that part.
Re: Gay Couples are to be Allowed to Marry in Churches.
format_quote Originally Posted by aemish
Ahhh.. Typical.
Do you have questions/comments/complaints/backtalk that you can put into proper syntax? I fear no one understands what you want, and outside of spamming or perhaps increasing your post count or getting a rise out of people with your oh so avant-garde that we only see everyday I don't think anything you've posted here merits a reply!
all the best
Text without context is pretext If your opponent is of choleric temperament, seek to irritate him
Re: Gay Couples are to be Allowed to Marry in Churches.
format_quote Originally Posted by naidamar
Let me ask you:
Did any of previous laws specifically state that places of worship CANNOT conduct homosexual marriages?
No, but only because the law currently defines marriage as a union of a man and a woman; there is therefore no such thing as a 'homosexual marriage' to forbid. The closest that currently exists is what's called a 'civil partrnership', which shares much of the same formalities in civil law. Unlike marriage, though (obviously), civil partnership ceremonies currently may not be held in places of worship. Such unions may well receive a subsequent blessing in a church if the clerics are agreeable, but legally they can hold blessings for whatever they like.
format_quote Originally Posted by aemish
I'm pretty sure the consensus in the West now is that the root of homophobia betrays latent homosexuality within the homophobe.
LOL.. that will raise a few a few hackles around here! I don't think that's any sort of scientific consensus, though, although there is probably more of an element of truth in it.
What there is a consensus on, though, is that sexuality is not so much the convenient black and white picture painted by the homophobes as shades of grey, or a sliding scale. We are all both heterosexual and homosexual to some degree; we just fall on different points of the line, strongly heterosexual ----- bisexual ----- strongly homosexual.
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