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    Another update.

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    Even though Russian and Syrian forces were on high alert for potential Israeli air strikes, Israel was able to fly in and carry out a massive operation without being fired upon a single time. How did they do it?


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    In a speech back in 2008, Gaddafi warns Arab leaders that they will be next after Saddam Hussein.


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    Re: Oh Syria the victory is coming

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    An American perspective, still thinks America can salvage whats left of its reputation,nevertheless an informative video.

    Vietnam, Iraq, and Syria are very different scenarios with different justifications and motives and so on. To compare them like this is absurd Vietnam was fought to assist a US ally struggling, while Iraq was invaded 3 times for various allegations and the leader was murdered for defending his country, Syria was bombed for killing Muslim Kids, even if these Kids weren't Muslim these bombings would be justified, killing, raping, and torturing kids like the way Assad and HezbulShaytan do is the worst thing anybody could do.

    To defend Bashar and post arguments in his favor for the sake "sharing both sides" is simply wrong he has no excuses, or arguments against calamities he brought upon himself every Muslim on Earth should feel disheartened by this "Man", His supporters and apologists are worse than he is.
    Oh Syria the victory is coming


    يا قافلة الخير
    "The Persian aggression against Iraq was a result of the arrogant, racialist and evil attitudes of the ruling clique in Iran."
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustTime View Post
    Vietnam, Iraq, and Syria are very different scenarios with different justifications and motives and so on. To compare them like this is absurd Vietnam was fought to assist a US ally struggling, while Iraq was invaded 3 times for various allegations and the leader was murdered for defending his country, Syria was bombed for killing Muslim Kids, even if these Kids weren't Muslim these bombings would be justified, killing, raping, and torturing kids like the way Assad and HezbulShaytan do is the worst thing anybody could do.
    One thing that saddam, Qaddafi, and Assad have in common is the fact that they were the most vocal three world leaders in condemning zionist israeli crimes and taking measures to help the people being unjustly deprived of life, property, and God-given rights which most people around the world take for granted.
    I don't claim to be an expert on Assad and am disgusted by the crimes of his henchmen, but i do know that this story is not black and white and that there are multiple international deceits taking place, also the fact that many of the most knowledgeable and vocal practising Muslims in the world tied culturally to the sunnah of Allah's messenger come from the heartlands of Iraq and Shaam have been made targets in egypt, Iraq and libya previously, and the fact that Israeli agents have been active in provoking government and people against each other via false flag atrocities is no secret, nor the fact that the golan heights areas are illegally occupied by Israel despite international appeals for justice by the syrian government. The lack of action on the part of the syrian government when blessed mujahideen in Allah's path were crossing over the border into iraq to fight illegal invaders is also a motive for the enemy invaders and their allies to replace assad with a more docile figurehead, the fact that he later carried out killings of mujahideen with the apparent aim of pacifying the enemies of Allah and taking heat off himself didn't really help though - probably a strong reason for his current situation.

    Quote Originally Posted by JustTime View Post
    To defend Bashar and post arguments in his favor for the sake "sharing both sides" is simply wrong he has no excuses, or arguments against calamities he brought upon himself every Muslim on Earth should feel disheartened by this "Man", His supporters and apologists are worse than he is.

    In the same breath, i believe one ought to add that defending trump, obama, bush, natanyahu, sharon, blair, brown, cameron, may, elizabeth battenberg etc are simply more wrong since assad's crimes pale in comparison to theirs.
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    Falling Into War

    Iran has an exaggerated reputation in the Middle East for Machiavellian cunning and an ability to outmanoeuvre its enemies. Britain used to be regarded in the same light in the region: its most ill-considered actions were admired as devilishly clever plots when all it was doing was taking advantage of the blunders of its opponents.

    The Islamic Republic is similarly seen as the sinister hidden hand behind many developments with which it has little to do. It is accused of creating a corridor of pro-Iranian states from Tehran to the Mediterranean, posing an existential threat to Israel and the Gulf monarchies. The Iran nuclear deal of 2015 is to be dropped by Donald Trump because it has supposedly done nothing to avert these dangers, possibly leaving military action as the only option.

    Iranian influence has certainly expanded but only thanks a series of disastrous US-led military interventions since the start of the millennium. In early 2001 Iran was isolated with Afghanistan to the east under the rule of the Taliban, whose Sunni sectarianism inspired them with hatred of Shia Iran whose diplomats they casually murdered. Iran’s neighbour to the west was Saddam Hussein’s Iraq, with whom it had fought a ferocious eight-year war.

    All this was to change in two years: in 2001 the US overthrew the Taliban, though it was never able to defeat them permanently or stabilise the rule of its local Afghan allies. In 2003, a US-led coalition invaded Iraq, bringing to power the first Shia government in the Arab world since the days of Saladin and one which inevitably looked to their fellow Shia in Iran.

    Western debacles in the Middle East since 9/11 have not produced a learning curve; or there is such a curve, it points down rather than up. In the wake of the popular uprising in Syria in 2011, the US and its regional allies – Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Qatar – backed the armed opposition to president Bashar al-Assad. Whatever they supposed they were doing, they ensured that for Assad to survive he needed maximum engagement of Russia and Iran in Syria.

    Are we about to see Iranian influence expand once again as the US and Israel gear up for a confrontation – and quite possibly a war – with Iran? Trump is likely to reimpose sanctions on Iran on 12 May, thereby sinking the nuclear deal negotiated by Barack Obama. It is a self-harming decision, pillorying Iran for being a great and threatening power while oddly weak enough to be brought to heel by economic sanctions and possible airstrikes.

    Sanctions will not work any better against Iran than they did against Iraq in the 1990s or against Syria today. If they do not, then the only alternative is military action by the US or by the US “green-lighting” an Israeli attack. But what happens then? This is the question that was never properly answered when the US intervened directly or indirectly in Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria. Supporters of these ventures had no clear vision of what a US victory would look like and, in so far as they did have a strategy, it rested on wishful thinking.

    In reporting these three wars I was always struck by the degree to which the US and its allies were hobbled by an unhealthy belief in their own propaganda. They claimed to be replacing evil rulers who were without popular support, but they were really plugging into complex ethnic and sectarian civil wars in which all sides had supporters who would fight to the death. Instead of facing this reality, they would take refuge in fantasies such as David Cameron’s 70,000 moderate rebel fighters in Syria whom nobody else could find.

    It is not yet clear if Trump and the Israeli prime minister do want a war with Iran, but they may blunder into one all the same. Alternatively, they may imagine they will get their way by means of a short successful war and find, as so many leaders have done down the centuries, that they are mired in a long and unsuccessful conflict. Israel had plenty of experience of this in Lebanon, which it invaded in 1982 in a war from which it spent years trying to extricate itself.

    But political leaders are never quite as foolish as they might appear when exaggerating foreign threats. Governments everywhere want to present themselves as the sole defenders of their citizens against some hideous menace from abroad. Iran fulfils this role for the US, Israel, Saudi Arabia and the Sunni rulers of the Gulf and acts as a useful glue for national solidarity and a diversion from domestic grievances. Belief in an all-embracing Iranian conspiracy fuels paranoia: in Bahrain in 2011, the authorities tortured Shia hospital doctors who were accused of using a piece of medical equipment to receive orders from their masters in Tehran.

    Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu has always played up the Iranian threat. Since the early 1990s, he has warned that Iran is about to acquire a nuclear arsenal unless it is stopped forthwith. As prime minister, he has long been speaking of launching an Israeli strike against Iran, but he has been very cautious about actually doing do. Diplomats wonder if this is still the case.

    More is at work here than the normal threat inflation to be expected from politicians wishing to stand tall in defence of the homeland or portray their opponents as unpatriotic weaklings. This is a common feature in the politics of every country, but Israel has always been particularly keen to have an enemy in common with the US. It was, in fact, surprisingly relaxed about the Iranian threat when Iran was at its most revolutionary in the years after the overthrow of the Shah in 1979.

    It was only after the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991 that this changed, when Iran found itself promoted to the first rank of demons. Scott Peterson explains this in his perceptive history of Iran, Let the Swords Encircle Me, saying: “Anxious that its own strategic utility as a ‘bulwark’ against Soviet-allied Arab states was losing its shine after the Cold War, Israel launched a campaign in 1992 to convince the US that a new and more dangerous threat had emerged from Iran and the Islamic extremism that the revolution inspired.”

    Such threat manipulation is still effective. But, ironically, it is the US and its allies that have opened the door to Iran by destroying or weakening the state structure in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria and Yemen. In any confrontation with the US and Israel, Iran will have every incentive to reinforce its position in the region. If the US really wants to reduce Iranian influence and that of its allies in the region, there is a much better and more effective way doing so: this is to end the wars which have enabled Iran and many other players to spread their influence.

    https://zcomm.org/znetarticle/falling-into-war/

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    Re: Oh Syria the victory is coming

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    One thing that saddam, Qaddafi, and Assad have in common is the fact that they were the most vocal three world leaders in condemning zionist israeli crimes and taking measures to help the people being unjustly deprived of life, property, and God-given rights which most people around the world take for granted.
    I don't claim to be an expert on Assad and am disgusted by the crimes of his henchmen, but i do know that this story is not black and white and that there are multiple international deceits taking place, also the fact that many of the most knowledgeable and vocal practising Muslims in the world tied culturally to the sunnah of Allah's messenger come from the heartlands of Iraq and Shaam have been made targets in egypt, Iraq and libya previously, and the fact that Israeli agents have been active in provoking government and people against each other via false flag atrocities is no secret, nor the fact that the golan heights areas are illegally occupied by Israel despite international appeals for justice by the syrian government. The lack of action on the part of the syrian government when blessed mujahideen in Allah's path were crossing over the border into iraq to fight illegal invaders is also a motive for the enemy invaders and their allies to replace assad with a more docile figurehead, the fact that he later carried out killings of mujahideen with the apparent aim of pacifying the enemies of Allah and taking heat off himself didn't really help though - probably a strong reason for his current situation.




    In the same breath, i believe one ought to add that defending trump, obama, bush, natanyahu, sharon, blair, brown, cameron, may, elizabeth battenberg etc are simply more wrong since assad's crimes pale in comparison to theirs.
    People like you who act smart because you blame Israel for everything and think you know better because you follow theories made up by the worst of individuals are very lost and ignorant, "Pales in Comparison" Assad is wiping Syria clean of Muslims he is worse than the Israelis the Russians, Iranians, and Assad are worse than Israel. If Assad was in charge of Israel there would be no Gaza Strip for Sunnis, he would bomb it with the help from his Iranian and Russian masters then claim that all of it was a false flag operation then repopulate it with Shias.

    You should be ashamed of your self May Allah humiliate you with Bashar.
    Oh Syria the victory is coming


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    "The Persian aggression against Iraq was a result of the arrogant, racialist and evil attitudes of the ruling clique in Iran."
    -Saddam Hussein Abd al-Majid at-Tikriti -
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    Independent rebel groups in the rebellion are being removed from the field. Looks like Turkey wants to take over.

    Idlib is now in Ankara's crosshairs as it tries to secure its borders

    Hayat Tahrir Al Sham's dominance in northwestern Syria is interfering with Turkey's plans to create loyalist forces to keep the YPG at bay, writes Hassan Hassan


    Last week, Turkish officials met members of Jabhat Al Nusra and presented them with an ultimatum: the group had to either dissolve itself – and members join other factions individually – or face a rebel assault backed by Ankara.

    The objective, according to reports in Arabic media, was to protect Idlib, where the group is perceived to be dominating, from an attack by the regime and its Russian and Iranian allies. An insider source confirmed the visit, saying that at least two members of the group were “summoned” to Istanbul to hold meetings with officials there. "They were given very serious conditions to meet," he said. "They left displeased, to say the least.”

    The move follows a series of developments involving Turkey’s new policy in northwestern Syria after the expulsion of the Kurdish militias from their stronghold in Afrin.

    The Turkish proposal was designed to address the issue of Jabhat Al Nusra’s dominance in Idlib, where the group was exempted from a de-escalation deal in various areas agreed by Turkey, Russia and Iran. Since the expulsion of Kurdish militias from Afrin, Idlib has become more beneficial for Turkey than before. The reason is related to its proximity to Kurdish towns in northwestern Syria, which provide another layer of security for Turkish-backed forces and help create a contiguous sphere of influence for Ankara.

    But Jabhat Al Nusra, known as Hayat Tahrir Al Sham after rebranding last year, presents a dilemma for Turkey. On one hand, the group’s dominance creates an awkward situation for Turkey: it makes Idlib vulnerable to a regime assault and continues to raise Western concerns about a sanctuary for an Al Qaeda organisation. On the other hand, the group has reached out to Turkey and reassured it about its future intentions. The group also has a communication channel with Turkey that has enabled the two to co-ordinate, particularly since October.

    Despite an existing agreement with Russia and complaints from the Syrian regime, Hayat Tahrir Al Sham’s militants escorted Turkish forces as they entered Idlib to establish checkpoints as part of the de-escalation monitoring process. The turn of events in October followed earlier rumours that Turkey was planning to expel the group from Idlib with the help of rebel forces opposed to it.

    The meeting with Turkish officials last week was connected to two other efforts by Turkey in that region and builds on the events in October.

    The first is an agreement between Hayat Tahrir Al Sham and rebel factions to end two months of fighting in Idlib. The truce happened in the backdrop of a meeting in Istanbul and was part of Turkey’s push for the two sides to end infighting and discuss ways to resolve the conundrum presented by Hayat Tahrir Al Sham.

    The second is a stated effort by Turkey to “professionalise” rebel militias operating in northern Syria with military-style legions. This effort became more pronounced with the operation in Afrin, where Turkey, at least publicly, insisted on the involvement of fighters as part of a “national army” rather than as whole militias.

    While the forces were far from disciplined or organised military units, a new Turkish approach was clear. Turkey has demonstrated in recent months that it was no longer committed to the sponsorship of a rebel faction as a standalone proxy. In the past, for example, Turkey worked with groups like Ahrar Al Sham as proxy forces and invested in their survival as such.

    When Ahrar Al Sham’s leadership was decapitated in an attack in 2014, for example, Ankara quickly helped to revive the remaining group with logistical and financial support. By contrast, Turkey stood by as the same group came under assault by Hayat Tahrir Al Sham last year. It also refused to back Ahrar Al Sham when it and other forces declared war against Hayat Tahrir Al Sham in February.

    In other words, Turkey has shown no interest recently in playing the old game of supporting ragtag militias to fight the Syrian regime. Instead, it has moved to create loyalist forces organised under new units for the main purpose of securing its borders and ensuring that the YPG, the Kurdish militias that it regards as an affiliate of the PKK, do not carve out sanctuaries in northern Syria.

    Idlib has become a vital terrain to achieve this objective. Also, Turkey considers an all-out fight against Hayat Tahrir Al Sham to be a side issue that could distract from the priority of containing the YPG and carries the risk of creating a vacuum that might benefit the regime or the Kurds.

    The possibility of a war against Hayat Tahrir Al Sham is also reduced because the group is willing to do what it takes to avoid confrontation with Turkey. This was evident in its outreach effort, admitted by one of the group’s top leaders. Despite rumours of an imminent confrontation in October, the group escalated the situation and instead cooperated with Turkish forces inside Idlib. Additionally, the group has evacuated some of its checkpoints in Idlib or is “disappearing”, as one source in the area described it, which indicated the group is not wedded to the control of territory, at least publicly.

    Ankara appears to hope that the group will dismantle itself and be incorporated into other formations. Turkey does not seem to be keen to consider the alternative, namely a serious push to weaken the group and replace it with other forces. Such a scenario carries unpredictable and unwanted risks for Turkey. It also does not want to give up a pocket central to its goals of dealing with the Kurdish militia threat in the northwest.

    So far, Turkey has been able to maintain the status quo there. But soon it will find itself obliged to make hard choices regarding its approach to the former official branch of Al Qaeda and its long-term interests in northern Syria.

    https://www.thenational.ae/opinion/comment/idlib-is-now-in-ankara-s-crosshairs-as-it-tries-to-secure-its-borders-1.726612


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    Another update

    Journalists challenge their inclusion on a US drone ‘kill list’

    Two journalists have today filed federal court cases in the United States to challenge their inclusion on a classified US “Kill List”, Reprieve said in a statement.

    Bilal Abdul Kareem, an American citizen and journalist working in Syria, escaped being killed by drone strike on five occasions, including two strikes on cars he was travelling in. Two additional strikes were executed on his independent news agency, On the Ground News, while he was working in the studio.

    Ahmad Zaidan, a senior reporter with Al Jazeera has appeared in a top secret SKYNET document, a US computer programme which has classified him as an Al-Qaeda courier based on “metadata”. Zaidan was the first person to interview Osama Bin Laden, Al-Qaeda’s former leader in the 1990s.

    “Bilal and Ahmed are journalists, not terrorists. All they are asking for is the chance to prove it. Yet, the government seeks to deny them that chance. In doing so, he is asking the courts to jettison the very value, which sets America apart from dictatorships and despots – due process,” Jennifer Gibson, head of Reprieve’s drones project, said.

    “The courts must not let him. The executive should not be allowed to act as judge, jury and executioner unchecked. In a country founded on the rule of law, these men have a right to challenge the government’s decision to kill them,” Gibson continued.

    SKYNET, operated by the National Security Agency, pinpoints targets based on individuals’ mobile phone calls and travel patterns. It does not take into consideration any direct evidence to ensure legality, Reprieve said.

    “The government has acknowledged that it maintains a ‘Kill List’ of suspected terrorists, and that there is a process to determine who should be included on that list. The plaintiffs were incorrectly placed on the kill list. They have the right to make the case that the government got it wrong,” Tara Plochocki, parter at Lewis Baac Kaufman Middlemiss PLLC, said.

    Kareem and Bilal seek to remove their names from the US “Kill List” or any other list from which individuals can be targeted for lethal action. The case will also seek to address whether the US followed its own internal procedure on listing individuals and what that procedure comprises of.

    Under the drones policy inked by former president Barack Obama and continued by Donald Trump, only individuals who pose a “continuing, imminent threat to US persons” may be targeted outside war zones. But Reprieve, a legal action charity seeks to argue that Kareem and Zaidan are journalists who are provided special protection inside and outside war zones.

    Obama previously warned high risk counter-terrorism operations should be used sparingly and only after internal review. Trump has sidestepped that rule and provided the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and the US Military broader powers. In addition, the US considers some countries “areas of activity hostilities” or temporary battlefields where looser targeting rules apply. US drone warfare has taken the lives of some 10,858 individuals since 2004, according to the Bureau of Investigative Journalism (TBIJ).

    https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20180501-journalists-challenge-their-inclusion-on-a-us-drone-kill-list/

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    Pounce • 5 days ago

    Obama previously warned high risk counter-terrorism operations should be used sparingly and only after internal review. Trump has sidestepped that rule and provided the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and the US Military broader powers.


    I think you will find that under Obama, targeting killings by the use of UAVs went through the roof.

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    Re: Oh Syria the victory is coming

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    People like you who act smart because you blame Israel for everything and think you know better because you follow theories made up by the worst of individuals are very lost and ignorant, "Pales in Comparison" Assad is wiping Syria clean of Muslims he is worse than the Israelis the Russians, Iranians, and Assad are worse than Israel. If Assad was in charge of Israel there would be no Gaza Strip for Sunnis, he would bomb it with the help from his Iranian and Russian masters then claim that all of it was a false flag operation then repopulate it with Shias.

    You should be ashamed of your self May Allah humiliate you with Bashar.
    Yo punk, leave off the unwarranted ad hominem because you sound like one of those keyboard warrior urchins that squeal when they get squished - focus on the topic - i know it's difficult for zionist supporters who regularly need avenues of distraction with the aim of scoring lousy points.

    You know you're making a joke of it when you quote assad's baathist counterpart criticizing persia in your signature, the baathist counterpart who was america's stick against mujahideen in Allah's path, persia and iraq's other neighbours, only that he saw through the game when amongst other events, his american allies got caught selling weapons to iran then tried to brush it off as a one off no big deal event, he then signed a peace treaty with iran and immediately got provoked by Kuwait which was America's new fav still secret mistress in the region.... But yeah, you're possibly amongst those who cheered when america openly turned on their unwilling mistress in the region and attacked the people of iraq (if you're even old enough to remember or were alive in those days that is).
    Now don't expect me to descend into the cesspit with you and stay in it, grow up a bit, and don't insult people by expecting all and sundry to assume that encouraging the open enemies of Allah to attack genuine (the best) Muslims is somehow something we should get excited about as if it's one of those kids adverts.

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    Re: Oh Syria the victory is coming

    Salaam

    Brother JustTime seems so obsessed with Assad he doesn't look at the wider picture. I don't think anybody here likes Assad or what his vile regime (Iranians and Russians included) are doing or the destruction of Arab communities, (among many other communities who are being destroyed and displaced by this war (Yazidis)), but ranting and raving isn't going to solve the problem.

    Oh and the Zionists are quite happy to see Syria (and Iraq) self destruct (see the Oded Yinon Plan, A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm), you don't think they've played their part in this conflict, your naive.

    There's much about this conflict we don't understand, we have to try and figure it out.

    Anyway this is a good visual representation of the conflict.

    The Syrian Civil War, every day


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    Quote Originally Posted by Abz2000 View Post
    Yo punk, leave off the unwarranted ad hominem because you sound like one of those keyboard warrior urchins that squeal when they get squished - focus on the topic - i know it's difficult for zionist supporters who regularly need avenues of distraction with the aim of scoring lousy points.

    You know you're making a joke of it when you quote assad's baathist counterpart criticizing persia in your signature, the baathist counterpart who was america's stick against mujahideen in Allah's path, persia and iraq's other neighbours, only that he saw through the game when amongst other events, his american allies got caught selling weapons to iran then tried to brush it off as a one off no big deal event, he then signed a peace treaty with iran and immediately got provoked by Kuwait which was America's new fav still secret mistress in the region.... But yeah, you're possibly amongst those who cheered when america openly turned on their unwilling mistress in the region and attacked the people of iraq (if you're even old enough to remember or were alive in those days that is).
    Now don't expect me to descend into the cesspit with you and stay in it, grow up a bit, and don't insult people by expecting all and sundry to assume that encouraging the open enemies of Allah to attack genuine (the best) Muslims is somehow something we should get excited about as if it's one of those kids adverts.

    You are so typical and a poster child for the whole anti-Zionist useful idiot crowd

    Here you are loving them but they are not loving you, while you believe in the Scripture - all of it. And when they meet you, they say, "We believe." But when they are alone, they bite their fingertips at you in rage. Say, "Die in your rage. Indeed, Allah is Knowing of that within the breasts."

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    Salaam

    Brother JustTime seems so obsessed with Assad he doesn't look at the wider picture. I don't think anybody here likes Assad or what his vile regime (Iranians and Russians included) are doing or the destruction of Arab communities, (among many other communities who are being destroyed and displaced by this war (Yazidis)), but ranting and raving isn't going to solve the problem.

    Oh and the Zionists are quite happy to see Syria (and Iraq) self destruct (see the Oded Yinon Plan, A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm), you don't think they've played their part in this conflict, your naive.

    There's much about this conflict we don't understand, we have to try and figure it out.

    Anyway this is a good visual representation of the conflict.

    The Syrian Civil War, every day

    Yazidis can rot in Hell with the rest of the Kurds they worship Satan anyway

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    Independent rebel groups in the rebellion are being removed from the field. Looks like Turkey wants to take over.

    Idlib is now in Ankara's crosshairs as it tries to secure its borders

    Hayat Tahrir Al Sham's dominance in northwestern Syria is interfering with Turkey's plans to create loyalist forces to keep the YPG at bay, writes Hassan Hassan


    Last week, Turkish officials met members of Jabhat Al Nusra and presented them with an ultimatum: the group had to either dissolve itself – and members join other factions individually – or face a rebel assault backed by Ankara.

    The objective, according to reports in Arabic media, was to protect Idlib, where the group is perceived to be dominating, from an attack by the regime and its Russian and Iranian allies. An insider source confirmed the visit, saying that at least two members of the group were “summoned” to Istanbul to hold meetings with officials there. "They were given very serious conditions to meet," he said. "They left displeased, to say the least.”

    The move follows a series of developments involving Turkey’s new policy in northwestern Syria after the expulsion of the Kurdish militias from their stronghold in Afrin.

    The Turkish proposal was designed to address the issue of Jabhat Al Nusra’s dominance in Idlib, where the group was exempted from a de-escalation deal in various areas agreed by Turkey, Russia and Iran. Since the expulsion of Kurdish militias from Afrin, Idlib has become more beneficial for Turkey than before. The reason is related to its proximity to Kurdish towns in northwestern Syria, which provide another layer of security for Turkish-backed forces and help create a contiguous sphere of influence for Ankara.

    But Jabhat Al Nusra, known as Hayat Tahrir Al Sham after rebranding last year, presents a dilemma for Turkey. On one hand, the group’s dominance creates an awkward situation for Turkey: it makes Idlib vulnerable to a regime assault and continues to raise Western concerns about a sanctuary for an Al Qaeda organisation. On the other hand, the group has reached out to Turkey and reassured it about its future intentions. The group also has a communication channel with Turkey that has enabled the two to co-ordinate, particularly since October.

    Despite an existing agreement with Russia and complaints from the Syrian regime, Hayat Tahrir Al Sham’s militants escorted Turkish forces as they entered Idlib to establish checkpoints as part of the de-escalation monitoring process. The turn of events in October followed earlier rumours that Turkey was planning to expel the group from Idlib with the help of rebel forces opposed to it.

    The meeting with Turkish officials last week was connected to two other efforts by Turkey in that region and builds on the events in October.

    The first is an agreement between Hayat Tahrir Al Sham and rebel factions to end two months of fighting in Idlib. The truce happened in the backdrop of a meeting in Istanbul and was part of Turkey’s push for the two sides to end infighting and discuss ways to resolve the conundrum presented by Hayat Tahrir Al Sham.

    The second is a stated effort by Turkey to “professionalise” rebel militias operating in northern Syria with military-style legions. This effort became more pronounced with the operation in Afrin, where Turkey, at least publicly, insisted on the involvement of fighters as part of a “national army” rather than as whole militias.

    While the forces were far from disciplined or organised military units, a new Turkish approach was clear. Turkey has demonstrated in recent months that it was no longer committed to the sponsorship of a rebel faction as a standalone proxy. In the past, for example, Turkey worked with groups like Ahrar Al Sham as proxy forces and invested in their survival as such.

    When Ahrar Al Sham’s leadership was decapitated in an attack in 2014, for example, Ankara quickly helped to revive the remaining group with logistical and financial support. By contrast, Turkey stood by as the same group came under assault by Hayat Tahrir Al Sham last year. It also refused to back Ahrar Al Sham when it and other forces declared war against Hayat Tahrir Al Sham in February.

    In other words, Turkey has shown no interest recently in playing the old game of supporting ragtag militias to fight the Syrian regime. Instead, it has moved to create loyalist forces organised under new units for the main purpose of securing its borders and ensuring that the YPG, the Kurdish militias that it regards as an affiliate of the PKK, do not carve out sanctuaries in northern Syria.

    Idlib has become a vital terrain to achieve this objective. Also, Turkey considers an all-out fight against Hayat Tahrir Al Sham to be a side issue that could distract from the priority of containing the YPG and carries the risk of creating a vacuum that might benefit the regime or the Kurds.

    The possibility of a war against Hayat Tahrir Al Sham is also reduced because the group is willing to do what it takes to avoid confrontation with Turkey. This was evident in its outreach effort, admitted by one of the group’s top leaders. Despite rumours of an imminent confrontation in October, the group escalated the situation and instead cooperated with Turkish forces inside Idlib. Additionally, the group has evacuated some of its checkpoints in Idlib or is “disappearing”, as one source in the area described it, which indicated the group is not wedded to the control of territory, at least publicly.

    Ankara appears to hope that the group will dismantle itself and be incorporated into other formations. Turkey does not seem to be keen to consider the alternative, namely a serious push to weaken the group and replace it with other forces. Such a scenario carries unpredictable and unwanted risks for Turkey. It also does not want to give up a pocket central to its goals of dealing with the Kurdish militia threat in the northwest.

    So far, Turkey has been able to maintain the status quo there. But soon it will find itself obliged to make hard choices regarding its approach to the former official branch of Al Qaeda and its long-term interests in northern Syria.

    https://www.thenational.ae/opinion/c...rders-1.726612

    Erdogan truly is the Dog that's in his name and this is who Muslims look up to
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    I sense that some people are under the illusion that there is somehow good in Iran and the shiites. They couldn't be more wrong in my opinion. They are worse then the jews if you look at it from all angles without being bias or anything but just being calm and analysing it.

    1. They have abandoned the Sunnah of the prophet and have become clear cut mushrikeen

    2. The prophet told us that you will find the worst of enemy to be the mushrikeen and jews but in my opinion they are worse enemy then the jews just due to how they chose to conduct their operations. It's barbaric and fight as if they are fighting aliens. There is no good but ill feelings towards anyone who practice Sunnah.

    3. They are willing to kill pregnant women as Assad has showcased in Syria's long war. This has happened.

    4. The jews when they attack don't come out like that on the palestinians and if they did no Palestinian would have remained today it shows that this people despite their evils have some form of humanity and restrain but you would not find this within the mushrikeen. You will find them to be amongst these who would kill a pregnant woman.

    5. The reasons why this people have multipled in the first place is the muslims fault because they sheltered them due to nationalism and being their country-men so they sheltered them for centuries giving them protection under the illusion that he or she is an arab brother or sister but little did they know that the Sahaba would not have let this fly because they themselves knew what it felt like living amongst mushrikeen and believe me they are the worst of people.

    6. The way they pray is not based on the sunnah and not to forget this people are herectic all in all. They commit massive shirk putting things alongside Allah(swt) this is unacceptable by any form of standard. I have no idea how they have been treated so good amongst the Sunnah for all this centuries and I believe this is where our biggest sins lay. They have free access to perform pilgramage to Mecca and Medina.

    If it was up to me I would have rather given the jews allowance to perform the Hajj and Umrah instead of the Shiites Mushrikeens. They are truly the lowest of the lowest and I don't understand why some sunnah arabs are being cosy with them just due to nationalism but the mushrikeen don't have that type of solidarity with them.

    Rather have solidarity with the jews rather then them. Because the jews will not come after the kids in the womb as potential target like they do. To put it short this people don't deserve your mercy or your country-men protection or solidarity.

    What Syria has revealed can't be undone and it has truly revealed to you the true nature of the mushrikeen and this were exactly the kind or type of people the Prophet(sa) was dealing with and having issues with.

    Right now they are waging existential war in the middle east specifically Yemen, Syria and Iraq. This thing could spread further to the Holy land itself as they have desire to take it over
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    Quote Originally Posted by urkahnkhan View Post
    I sense that some people are under the illusion that there is somehow good in Iran and the shiites. They couldn't be more wrong in my opinion. They are worse then the jews if you look at it from all angles without being bias or anything but just being calm and analysing it.

    1. They have abandoned the Sunnah of the prophet and have become clear cut mushrikeen

    2. The prophet told us that you will find the worst of enemy the mushrikeen and jews but in my opinion they are worse enemy then the jews just due to how they chose to conduct their operations. It's barbaric and fight as if they are fighting aliens. There is no good but ill feelings towards anyone who practice Sunnah.

    3. They are willing to kill pregnant women as Assad has showcased in Syria's long war. This has happened.

    4. The jews when they attack don't come out like that on the palestinians and wallah if they didn't no Palestinian would have remained today it shows that this people despite their evils have some form of humanity and restrain but wallahi you would not find this within the mushrikeen. They will find them to be amongst these who would kill a pregnant woman.

    5. The reasons why this people have multiple in the first place is the muslims fault because they sheltered them due to nationalism and being their country-men so they sheltered them in centuries giving them protection under the illusion that he or she is an arab brother or sister but little did they know that the Sahaba would not have let this fly because they themselves knew what it felt like living amongst mushrikeen and believe me they are the worst of people.

    6. The way they pray is not based on the sunnah and not to forget this people herectic all in all. They commit massive shirk putting things alongside Allah(swt) this is unacceptable by any form of standard. I have no idea how they have been treated so good amongst the Sunnah for all this centuries and I believe this is where our biggest sins lay. They have free access to perform pilgramage to Mecca and Medina.

    If it was up to me Wallahi I would have rathered given the jews allowance to perform the Hajj and Umrah instead of the Shiites Mushrikeens. They are truly the lowest of the lowest and I don't understand why some sunnah arabs are being cosy with them just due to nationalism but the mushrikeen don't have that type of solidarity with them.

    Rather have solidarity with the jews rather then them. Because the jews will not come after the kids in the womb as potential target like they do. To put it short this people don't deserve your mercy or your country-men protection or solidarity.

    What Syria has revealed can't be undone and it has truly revealed to you the true nature of the mushrikeen and this were exactly the kind or type of people the Prophet(sa) was dealing with and having issues with.

    Right now they are waging existential war in the middle east specifically Yemen, Syria and Iraq. This thing could spread further to the Holy land itself as they have desired to take it over
    Jazak Allah Khayran Ya Akhi

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    Related worthwhile read
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel...%80%93Iraq_war
    According to Bergman, Israel's goals were to: reestablish some influence in Iran which was lost when the Shah was defeated in 1979; prevent Iraq from conquering Iran as they feared a victorious Saddam Hussein; and create business for the Israeli weapons industry

    It was Saddam's men and supporters who resisted in Iraq, it was Saddam died upon Tawhid, it was the Safawi Rawafida who formed the new government of Iraq , it's Hezbollah that helped the invaders in Basra, it's Sistani who calls for the Rawafida to commit all their crimes, it's Iran who rules Iraq today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by urkahnkhan View Post
    I sense that some people are under the illusion that there is somehow good in Iran and the shiites. They couldn't be more wrong in my opinion. They are worse then the jews if you look at it from all angles without being bias or anything but just being calm and analysing it.

    1. They have abandoned the Sunnah of the prophet and have become clear cut mushrikeen

    2. The prophet told us that you will find the worst of enemy the mushrikeen and jews but in my opinion they are worse enemy then the jews just due to how they chose to conduct their operations. It's barbaric and fight as if they are fighting aliens. There is no good but ill feelings towards anyone who practice Sunnah.

    3. They are willing to kill pregnant women as Assad has showcased in Syria's long war. This has happened.

    4. The jews when they attack don't come out like that on the palestinians and wallah if they didn't no Palestinian would have remained today it shows that this people despite their evils have some form of humanity and restrain but wallahi you would not find this within the mushrikeen. They will find them to be amongst these who would kill a pregnant woman.

    5. The reasons why this people have multiple in the first place is the muslims fault because they sheltered them due to nationalism and being their country-men so they sheltered them in centuries giving them protection under the illusion that he or she is an arab brother or sister but little did they know that the Sahaba would not have let this fly because they themselves knew what it felt like living amongst mushrikeen and believe me they are the worst of people.

    6. The way they pray is not based on the sunnah and not to forget this people herectic all in all. They commit massive shirk putting things alongside Allah(swt) this is unacceptable by any form of standard. I have no idea how they have been treated so good amongst the Sunnah for all this centuries and I believe this is where our biggest sins lay. They have free access to perform pilgramage to Mecca and Medina.

    If it was up to me Wallahi I would have rathered given the jews allowance to perform the Hajj and Umrah instead of the Shiites Mushrikeens. They are truly the lowest of the lowest and I don't understand why some sunnah arabs are being cosy with them just due to nationalism but the mushrikeen don't have that type of solidarity with them.

    Rather have solidarity with the jews rather then them. Because the jews will not come after the kids in the womb as potential target like they do. To put it short this people don't deserve your mercy or your country-men protection or solidarity.

    What Syria has revealed can't be undone and it has truly revealed to you the true nature of the mushrikeen and this were exactly the kind or type of people the Prophet(sa) was dealing with and having issues with.

    Right now they are waging existential war in the middle east specifically Yemen, Syria and Iraq. This thing could spread further to the Holy land itself as they have desired to take it over
    Oh I see your now peddling this the new Saudi propaganda line, more sectarian rhetoric? Now America is in the process of withdrawing from the Middle East the Sauds are in desperate need of 'new' friends, even if that means licking the boots of the Zionists, heh, how times change. Believe me 'brother' you don't want the Zionists to be your 'friends'.

    Like I said I don't like what the regime and its allies are doing, but I don't like the games the Sauds are playing, if they are so desperate for more war with Iran they should learn to fight their own battles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustTime View Post
    Jazak Allah Khayran Ya Akhi

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    Related worthwhile read
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel...%80%93Iraq_war
    According to Bergman, Israel's goals were to: reestablish some influence in Iran which was lost when the Shah was defeated in 1979; prevent Iraq from conquering Iran as they feared a victorious Saddam Hussein; and create business for the Israeli weapons industry

    It was Saddam's men and supporters who resisted in Iraq, it was Saddam died upon Tawhid, it was the Safawi Rawafida who formed the new government of Iraq , it's Hezbollah that helped the invaders in Basra, it's Sistani who calls for the Rawafida to commit all their crimes, it's Iran who rules Iraq today.
    Thanks for the reply brother

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    Salaam



    Oh I see your now peddling this the new Saudi propaganda line, more sectarian rhetoric? Now America is in the process of withdrawing from the Middle East the Sauds are in desperate need of 'new' friends, even if that means licking the boots of the Zionists, heh, how times change. Believe me 'brother' you don't want the Zionists to be your 'friends'.

    Like I said I don't like what the regime and its allies are doing, but I don't like the games the Sauds are playing, if they are so desperate for more war with Iran they should learn to fight their own battles.
    I'm not a fan of Saudi Arabia myself nor it's policies. But what I don't like is seeing the mushrikeen spreading and waging war upon the lands and people. waging a war on Iran is necessary in my honest opinion. Together with whomever is willing to join whether his a muslim or not. They are the biggest evil and the worst of creation by a big margin. It's not even debatable
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    Quote Originally Posted by Junon View Post
    Salaam



    Oh I see your now peddling this the new Saudi propaganda line, more sectarian rhetoric? Now America is in the process of withdrawing from the Middle East the Sauds are in desperate need of 'new' friends, even if that means licking the boots of the Zionists, heh, how times change. Believe me 'brother' you don't want the Zionists to be your 'friends'.

    Like I said I don't like what the regime and its allies are doing, but I don't like the games the Sauds are playing, if they are so desperate for more war with Iran they should learn to fight their own battles.
    "Sectarian" is a made up word that has no legality or validity in an Islamic sense there is only one Islam and either you follow it correctly or you dont and it is clear the leadership of Iran is the farthest thing from "Islamic" and has no validation as a nation or governing body from a Shari'i perspective the Shias are Kufar and this has been established long before anyone alive today was born.

    And the whole "Everything is the Zionists' fault" is beyond stale they are not the only aggressors or even the strongest and there is no difference in disbelief, as believers are one disbelievers are one, the only thing that might be a dividing factor is that Jews and Christians are worthy of proection while Shias and other Pagans are not.

    Are the Saudis perfect? By no means but compared to Iran and the Rawafid hordes in the Mashriq they are a thousand times better, anybody is better than a Shia.
    Oh Syria the victory is coming


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    Useful at this point to confirm that i believe the slimy scorpions have gone back to their running criminal habit....addiction?...of infiltration and subversion via false first person testimoinials and opinionated/manipulative secular government tv style fake debates..... lol they actually talk to each other as if they're having a real discussion - these lot will be upstaging george clooney and will smith with their poker straight and solemn expressions where it's difficult (sometimes) to fathom the fact that they're playing circus for the camera, but hey, at least those guys have the self-respect to admit they're actors (even though it's obvious).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abz2000 View Post
    Useful at this point to confirm that i believe the slimy scorpions have gone back to their running criminal habit....addiction?...of infiltration and subversion via false first person testimoinials and opinionated/manipulative secular government tv style fake debates..... lol they actually talk to each other as if they're having a real discussion - these lot will be upstaging george clooney and will smith with their poker straight and solemn expressions where it's difficult (sometimes) to fathom the fact that they're playing circus for the camera, but hey, at least those guys have the self-respect to admit they're actors (even though it's obvious).
    You are rambling
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    Dunno if you know what rambling means.......although it appears you seem to know how to use the term to pervert people from thinking clearly.......
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    Salaam

    Another update.

    US 'freezes funding' to Syria's White Helmets, but group vow to continue operations

    The White Helmets have vowed to continue search and rescue operations in Syria, following reports that the US government had cut funding to the organisation.

    Raed al-Saleh from the group told Al Jazeera that the White Helmets "did not receive any direct funding from the US or any other country" and its operations will continue in Syria.

    "The White Helmets receives funding from organisations and associations," Saleh added.

    "Our work has not been disrupted and all the projects we are working on will not be halted. Our volunteers are still operating on the ground."

    Reports that US President Donald Trump had ordered a $200 million freeze on aid to Syria, allegedly also covered funding to the White Helmets.

    This is something the White Helmets denied, which said it does not receive money directly from governments.

    "We have not officially been informed of an end to the funding," Raed al-Salah, one of the heads of the White Helmets, said in the statement.

    "There are no new changes to the Civil Defence's [White Helmets] work or its projects."

    But it added that some funding had been cut.

    The frozen aid "included some indirect support for the White Helmets as well as rebuilding and recovery funds for others," the White Helmets said on Twitter. "We hope all Syria funds will resume soon."

    The White Helmets operate in opposition areas of Syria, which have been subjected to intense bombing by Syrian regime and Russian aircraft.

    They have saved thousands of people, digging civilians out of bombed out homes.

    https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/ne...-white-helmets

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