Ww3

format_quote Originally Posted by Iluv<3Allah

oh should I give her a hug when she swears at my Prophet (pbuh)? have u even seen her other posts? the way she spoke against the Prophet (pbuh) with her filthy mouth that I'd say even fag was a good word to describe her attitude. she is enemy of Islam and I dont understand why it hurts you so much that I sweared at her.

Salaam,

You should simply tell her that it is wrong to swear at the Prophets. I wouldn't swear/insult her. If she continued with that attitude, you should have reported her to the mods. Your just as bad as her, using inappropriate terms on this forum.

Oh it doesn't hurt me. I'm just correcting you.

format_quote Originally Posted by Tragic Typos

Salaam,

You should simply tell her that it is wrong to swear at the Prophets. I wouldn't swear/insult her. If she continued with that attitude, you should have reported her to the mods. Your just as bad as her, using inappropriate terms on this forum.

Oh it doesn't hurt me. I'm just correcting you.

I did report her to the mods. but when she started swearing at the Prophet (pbuh) I couldnt stand it anymore. Thanks for correcting me.
And let Allah decide if I am bad or not, let Allah judge me.

I am not perfect, I maybe bad but I'm certainly not as bad as her coz I do not swear at the Prophet (pbuh), I do not say anything against Allah and Islam. so that doesnt make me as bad as her. if you think im as bad as her then you are indicating that Im a kafir and Im sure you know that it is forbidden for Muslim to call another Muslim a kafir.

I'm sorry guys I didn't even know she said bout the prophet...

Salaam,

format_quote Originally Posted by Jedi_Mindset

I pretty much agree with bro scimi relating ww3. Its already going on and especially against muslims. the psychical ww3 is gonna start sooner or later, it will start with Syria. If syria, is destabilized, hezbollah and hamas wont recieve arms anymore, so israel attacks palestine and lebanon at the same time. Then it will focus on iran and uses Nato/USA to attack iran and will use india/USA also to attack pakistan. Both russia and china will get involved, russia will probably attack europe because it feels threatened by the NATO radar and missle shield system. China will boast up its power in the region, and will attack USA bases in SE Asia. USA collapses, martial law will be in full force, because USA will be in a ''war-state''. Israel will attack Egypt(sinai) with full force, and so it will occupy egypt till the nile river. Israel will also occupy syria till the euphrates and this is where a massive war will start, in which 99 of 100 will die. Israel will be ''zion'' and waiting for its ''messiah'' (dajjal).

But the victory will be on our side, pakistan/afghans will defeat india. And muslim armies will be formed to attack the kufar. A army from yemen will defeat the USA-backed governments there. And sooner or later mahdi(As) will arrive, and his army will march towards al-quds.

This won't really happen right after each other, but need to tell it short. lol it might take a matter of years, or months. Allahu Alim.
This is my view on how WW3 will be. You can agree or disagree with me, since this isn't happening yet.

I'm not sure where you are getting your information from.

Under the Bush Administration, they were planning to re-draft the entire Middle East. http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...xt=va&aid=3882
I think Obama is pursing this plan as well, but taking a different approach.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ddgm0...feature=relmfu

^ According to the video, the Afghanistan war serves a purpose to surround Iran (of course, there are other reasons why Afghanistan was invaded). Iran is surrounded by US military bases, so US is in a position to attack Iran, even though it will not benefit anyone. Israel will probably not survive if they were to attack Iran, nor will America. In this situation, martial law will be implemented in the US and Israel, due to internal instability.

Overall, I doubt there will be this big war. More like countries are breaking apart.

format_quote Originally Posted by Iluv<3Allah

I did report her to the mods. but when she started swearing at the Prophet (pbuh) I couldnt stand it anymore. Thanks for correcting me.
And let Allah decide if I am bad or not, let Allah judge me.

I am not perfect, I maybe bad but I'm certainly not as bad as her coz I do not swear at the Prophet (pbuh), I do not say anything against Allah and Islam. so that doesnt make me as bad as her. if you think im as bad as her then you are indicating that Im a kafir and Im sure you know that it is forbidden for Muslim to call another Muslim a kafir.

Let me make myself clear. What I meant to say was, if you are going to use inappropriate terms, then you are stooping to her level. In this sense, there is not much difference between the two of you. It would have been better if you don't swear at her. Not saying everything about you is bad. If you got that impression, then I'm sorry.

As for her insulting the Prophets, I'm not aware of this until now. I never said your as bad as her, in terms of insulting Prophets (P.B.U.H). If this is the case, then of course, she is wrong and should have been banned ASAP.

format_quote Originally Posted by MustafaMc

She admitted that her sister, a soldier in Afghanistan, was a homosexual (fag=slang for homosexual) and that she was sympathetic towards her sister to the point of considering leaving Islam for its stance on homosexuality. Should we not put this behind us and just move on?

I'm not familiar with what is going on. All I'm saying, swear terms should not be used against another member. If both members are using inappropriate terms, then in this sense, there is not much difference between the two.

Sure.

format_quote Originally Posted by MustafaMc

If there is a WWIII, I believe that it will be all-out total war with nuclear weapons. In Georgia, USA there is what is known as the 'Georgia Guidestones' and the first of 10 inscriptions is "Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature." Now with the world's population at nearly 7 billion, there must be a massive killing to get humanity down to 500 million with 13 out of every 14 people dying.

Interesting. The planet certainly can't continue to take 7 billion people who all want to eat french fries, drive cars and use 10 gallons of water to wash just one fingernail. It might be the case that rather than WWs, or even before WWIII, that the Planet says 'ENOUGH' and takes matters to another level. I think it is more likely that it will take massive 'natural disasters' to reduce global populations, and that most of the massive killings will probably be ignited by the consequence of those disasters.

Allah knows best.

format_quote Originally Posted by Tragic Typos

I'm not sure where you are getting your information from.

Under the Bush Administration, they were planning to re-draft the entire Middle East. http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...xt=va&aid=3882
I think Obama is pursing this plan as well, but taking a different approach.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ddgm0...feature=relmfu

^ According to the video, the Afghanistan war serves a purpose to surround Iran (of course, there are other reasons why Afghanistan was invaded). Iran is surrounded by US military bases, so US is in a position to attack Iran, even though it will not benefit anyone. Israel will probably not survive if they were to attack Iran, nor will America. In this situation, martial law will be implemented in the US and Israel, due to internal instability.

Overall, I doubt there will be this big war. More like countries are breaking apart.

Nope not any information ,just my view point. And is likely to be happen also. bro, the elite doesn't care about the economy since they own the banks, there is a difference between the military industry complex and the banking system. If the elite wants to steal oil, then they will find any way to get it (Iraq war, libya civil war, kony 2012 and soon iran(hopefully not). Also i think Iran is a bit bragging about its military might. Doesn't make the upcoming war less horrible.

The real reason is this:

They're already attacking us via media, freedom of speech, books, lies and with wars. They want to kill us(muslims). But victory is on our side Insha'Allah. In both WW1 and especially WW2 u didn't hear about the muslims who got killed, in N-africa and bosnia under french/german occupation. All these World wars are wars against islam, and to create chaos in this world, so they prepare for their ''messiah'' dajjal. Dajjal will claim to be a saviour just on that time when people need one.

format_quote Originally Posted by Tragic Typos

You should simply tell her that it is wrong to swear at the Prophets. I wouldn't swear/insult her. If she continued with that attitude, you should have reported her to the mods. Your just as bad as her, using inappropriate terms on this forum.

Interesting..
We've become so jaded we're not even able to distinguish between clear right and clear wrong as they've so brain washed with what they consider political correctitude.
It is OK for them for instance to go killing 16 civilians women & children so long as they issue an apology, but it isn't ok for us to get angry that they defecate on the Quran, urinate on dead bodies again, hey it is freedom of speech and well their PR folks have issued a statement that pretties it all up..

We can all learn a little something about Al Wala Wal Bara..

Al Wala' Wal Bara' (Love and Hate for Allah's Sake)

Al Wala Wal Bara In the current modern age, we find the Muslims in a pit of darkness. The Muslims of today have adopted the ways of the enemy. They forbid the good and enjoin the forbidden. They imitate the disbelievers and choose them as their friends and trustees. They mock believers who oppose the ways of the disbelievers and hypocrites. They help to deviate people from the Path of Allah and His Messenger (sallallahu alaiyhi wa sallam). They have left jihad for the pleasures and pursuits of the material world. They have abandoned Shariah and adopted Jahiliyyah. These people have strayed from the Straight Path and they have turned away from al wala wal bara, and as a result, have fallen into the trap of Shaytaan. One of the aspects of iman is al wala wal baraloving and hating for the sake of Allah Alone. It is one of the most important beliefs of Islam after Tawheed. Allah says in His Book: Let not the believers take disbelievers for their friends in preference to believers. Whoever does this has no connection with Allah unless you are guarding yourselves against them as a precaution. Allah bids you to beware of Himself. And to Allah is the journeying. (Surat Ali Imran 3:28) The reason why al wala wal bara is so important in Islam is because, if it is taken into practice, it can remove all the characteristics of Jahiliyyah from the Muslim Ummah, it guarantees the preservation of the Ummah, and it distinguishes the believer from the disbeliever. When one loves and hates for Allahs sake only, they are raised degrees higher than those who love, hate, and act based on their own desires or fake gods or for other meaningless things. Allah states in His Speech: Those who believe do battle for the cause of Allah and those who disbelieve do battle for the cause of idols. So fight the friends of Shaytaan. Surely, Shaytaans strategy is always weak. (Suratun-Nisaa 4:76) This verse is speaking of al wala wal bara. Those who have iman and belief and act upon al wala wal bara fight for Allahs cause and do battle with His enemies to preserve His Deen, while those who disbelieve fight for gods that dont even exist. Allah commands: And fight them until persecution is no more and religion is for Allah. (Suratul Baqarah 2:193) Only the people who love and hate for the sake of Allah will act upon this command. These are the people that understand the meaning of al wala wal bara, which will be discussed below, Insha Allah. The Prophet (sallallahu alaiyhi wa sallam) said: The strongest bond of faith is loyalty for the sake of Allah and opposition for His sake; love for the sake of Allah and enmity for His sake. But what does this love and enmity exactly mean? Loving for the sake of Allah means to love Allah and to show loyalty to Him by following His Shariah. It means to love all that is good and permissible in the Quran and Sunnah. This type of love requires one to defend Allahs deen and to preserve it. It is to love those who are obedient to Allah and to defend and assist them. These are the party of Allah. Enmity for the sake of Allah signifies showing anger towards those who oppose Allah, His Messenger (sallallahu alaiyhi wa sallam), His deen, and the believers. It is to struggle and fight against them in order to uphold and spread the way of Allah and His Messenger (sallallahu alaiyhi wa sallam). There is a brilliant example of this in Ibrahim (alaiyhis-salaam), as narrated by Allah in the Quran: There is a good example for you in Ibrahim and those with him when they told their people: Surely, we disassociate ourselves from you and all that you worship beside Allah. We have done with you. And there has arisen between us and you enmity and hate forever until you believe in Allah Alone. (Suratul Mumtahanah 60:4) Al wala wal bara requires one to ally oneself with Allah, His Messenger (sallallahu alaiyhi wa sallam), and the believers wherever they are found against the disbelievers even if it is against their own relatives. We see this in the example of the Prophet (sallallahu alaiyhi wa sallam), who fought against his own relatives and his own clan, all for the sake of Allah. Al wala wal bara aims to purify the society and rid the people of all vices. For example, we are required to oppose the way of the disbelievers. One of their habits is wasting their time in pursuing their own material desires. A Muslim who does not act upon al wala wal bara will imitate this habit and therefore become neglectful of his duties to Allah. This will lead to a corrupt person, who will end up raising a corrupt family, which will corrupt the community in whole. If we look at the situation today in Afghanistan, how many Muslims today are willing to leave their worldly pursuits and come to the aid of Islam and their Muslim brothers and sisters and fight for Allahs cause against His and our enemies? How many of them will act upon al wala wal bara, which is called for today? The religious situation of the Muslims of today is very pitiful and sad and the answer is that only a handful will run out to assist Allah and the faithful believers. We call ourselves Muslims, but what exactly is a Muslim? We cant just expect that belief in Allah and His Messenger (sallallahu alaiyhi wa sallam) is enough to be qualified for Jannah. Allah says: Or think you that you will enter Paradise while yet there has not come unto you the like of (that which came to) those who passed away before you? Affliction and adversity befell them, they were shaken as with earthquake, till the messenger (of Allah) and those who believed along with him said: When comes Allah's help? Now surely Allah's help is nigh. (Suratul Baqarah 2:214) If we believe that belief in Allah is enough, then there is no difference between us and the pagan Arabs of the pre-Islamic period, who claimed to believe in Allah and at the same time, worshipped hundreds of other gods. Al wala wal bara is what distinguishes a believer from a disbeliever. A believer allies himself with Allah only and with his final Messenger (sallallahu alaiyhi wa sallam) and with the believers. Allah says: And the believers, men and women, are protecting friends one of another; they enjoin the right and forbid the wrong and they establish worship and they pay the poor-due and they obey Allah and His Messenger. As for these, Allah will have mercy on them. Indeed, Allah is Mighty, Wise. (Suratut-Towbah 9:71) O you who believe! Whoever of you becomes a rebel against his deen, (know that in his place) Allah will bring a people whom He loves and who love Him, humble towards the believers, harsh towards the disbelievers, striving in the way of Allah and not fearing the blame of any blamer. (Suratul Maaidah 5:54) In order to be considered a believer, one must believe in Allah and His Messenger (sallallahu alaiyhi wa sallam) as well as show and prove that belief by assisting them and allying oneself with them against the enemies of Islam. The plans of the disbelievers are clearly exposed in the Quran: They long for you to disbelieve even as they disbelieve, so that you may be the same (as them). So do not choose friends from among then until they go out in the way of Allah. (Suratun-Nisaa 4:89) O you who believe! Do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are friends of one another. And whoever of you takes them for friends is (one) of them. Surely Allah does not guide wrongdoing people. (Suratul Maaidah 5:51) We are warned to beware of the kaafireen, for, they say with their mouths what is not in their hearts (3:167). They secretly plot against the believers to get rid of them and their divine religionIslam. They attack the Muslims and the people without the belief in al wala wal bara will support them against the believers and this is what we see in todays situation. If the believers join together as one brotherhood, sharing a mutual love and hate for the sake of Allah, Islam will come out on top regardless of how powerful their enemies may be. When the Prophet (sallallahu alaiyhi wa sallam) and his companions (radiyyallahu anhum) fought their battles, their enemies were always more in number and had better armor, but the Muslims were victorious as in the Battle of Badr. They shared one cause: fighting for the sake of Allah. Today, we need Muslims to do the same for their brothers, but where are they? Al wala wal bara is something which is lacking in the hearts and actions of Muslims worldwide. It is one of the more important aspects of Islam. It was because of this aspect that the companions and their Chief Leader Muhammad (sallallahu alaiyhi wa sallam), together, peacefully conquered lands and hearts all over the globe by the will and grace of Allah Subhanahu wa Taala.

http://quranicverse99.tripod.com/islamicways/id15.html


I personally have no problem with anyone calling a jackass a jackass especially when the jackass's level of intellect only goes as far as a jackass is able to comprehend!

best,

format_quote Originally Posted by ßlµêßêll

Interesting..
We've become so jaded we're not even able to distinguish between clear right and clear wrong as they've so brain washed with what they consider political correctitude.
It is OK for them for instance to go killing 16 civilians women & children so long as they issue an apology, but it isn't ok for us to get angry that they defecate on the Quran, urinate on dead bodies again, hey it is freedom of speech and well their PR folks have issued a statement that pretties it all up..

Salaam,

We can get angry. It is not best to suppress anger and it should be released in an appropriate manner. I think exercising can help to release anger. Anger is a human emotion that we all experience when something bad happens. As long as it is controlled, then everything will be fine.

Anyway, I'm just saying, it is not good to use foul language against other members. I'm certain the forum rules make it clear that inappropriate language will not be tolerated or something along those lines. I have never seen the moderators/administrators using foul terms.

As for political correctness, I actually do advocate it, to a certain extent. I rather not offend people, especially when it can be avoided so easily.

I personally have no problem with anyone calling a jackass a jackass especially when the jackass's level of intellect only goes as far as a jackass is able to comprehend!

Nothing good comes out of swearing. It just leads to bitterness and hostility.

format_quote Originally Posted by Jedi_Mindset

Nope not any information ,just my view point. And is likely to be happen also. bro, the elite doesn't care about the economy since they own the banks, there is a difference between the military industry complex and the banking system. If the elite wants to steal oil, then they will find any way to get it (Iraq war, libya civil war, kony 2012 and soon iran(hopefully not). Also i think Iran is a bit bragging about its military might. Doesn't make the upcoming war less horrible. The real reason is this:

They're already attacking us via media, freedom of speech, books, lies and with wars. They want to kill us(muslims). But victory is on our side Insha'Allah. In both WW1 and especially WW2 u didn't hear about the muslims who got killed, in N-africa and bosnia under french/german occupation. All these World wars are wars against islam, and to create chaos in this world, so they prepare for their ''messiah'' dajjal. Dajjal will claim to be a saviour just on that time when people need one.

Salaam,

How did you arrive at your point of view?

I doubt these wars are against Islam to be honest. I think the US government and certain interest groups need Islam, in order to continue these wars. Without Islam, it would be difficult for them (US and its allies) to find a justification to attack those countries (Afghanistan, Iran, etc) and persuade their own people. So they do need a scapegoat. Then again, the justification to start a war to save people (like Libya) might be sufficient.

I think these wars are planned to meet strategic goals. Blaming Islam and Muslims seems to justify these wars.

format_quote Originally Posted by Tragic Typos

I think exercising can help to release anger.

And I am advocating the occasional calisthenics with words.. There's nothing wrong with it.. Didn't matter if we were nice or not with the troll from last night and we've certainly been far more than allowing and accomadating to two weeks worth of crap, some of us even by email which I am sure many would like to get that time wasted back!..
So I am indeed hoping she left here feeling like the insignificant worthless defecate that she's although her sort of manure has such a thick outer crust engulfing a rotten interior that I doubt it would have had any impact.
I am not into casting pearls before swine and really dig calling swine swine...

its clearly that this is a war on islam bro, they fear us and want us to not unite.Already since the fall of the last khalifah. They organize civil wars, chaos in muslim countries, so we fight each other, preventing each way that we unite because they know if our ummah rises again that they will lose.They attack us on all fronts, and if you are a good practicing muslim, you will been seen as a ''extremist'' and even have the risk to get thrown in prison. They kill people only because they're muslim, also here in the west. And they're tying their best to make a believer a kafir and if this doesn't work; you will be thrown in prison or get labeled as a terrorist.

format_quote Originally Posted by Jedi_Mindset

its clearly that this is a war on islam bro, they fear us and want us to not unite.Already since the fall of the last khalifah. They organize civil wars, chaos in muslim countries, so we fight each other, preventing each way that we unite because they know if our ummah rises again that they will lose.They attack us on all fronts, and if you are a good practicing muslim, you will been seen as a ''extremist'' and even have the risk to get thrown in prison. They kill people only because they're muslim, also here in the west. And they're tying their best to make a believer a kafir and if this doesn't work; you will be thrown in prison or get labeled as a terrorist.

Salaam,

Let's bring some detail into this discussion.

Who is waging this war against Islam? State the names.
Why do they fear us?
Give me an example where they organised civil wars to prevent Muslims from uniting.
Who is trying to make Muslims into a non-Muslim?

Present the evidence as well.

You seem confident that your right, so addressing the questions above should not be too difficult.