Allah is Al Quddus (Holy)
I am a son of Adam (a human being).
Adam pbuh was not created to be perfect, that is why Allah gave guidance and made His grace abundant for those who ask Him.
Then learnt Adam from his Lord words of inspiration, and his Lord Turned towards him; for He is Oft-Repenting, Most Merciful.
We said: "Get ye down all from here; and if, as is sure, there comes to you Guidance from me, whosoever follows My guidance, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.
Quran Ch.2, Verses 37-38
My job is to inform, and try my best to convey the message in the clearest of terms, Allah judges.
I myself am human, and if i had knowledge of the unseen i would have probably multiplied all good for myself and the matter would have been settled between us long ago.
Allah is the most gracious, and His wrath is indeed something to take heed of. His respite is a blessing for those who take heed and submit to Him within that time, and a curse for those who are foolish enough to oppose Him.
And there is none to be likened unto Him, the Creator of the heavens and the earth, to whom we shall all return.
Time is running out.
Your post tells nothing. Abz2000 was talking about repentance. That is being Holier than thou.
Those who hijack the Creator's word are the ones who should repent. The ones to blame for the negative image of Islam are the Imams and the leaders on the Muslim heartland.
This discussion has gone far enough, yet, there isn't a real analysis of things.
I lol'd.
All religions can be given a negative image to. The Jews can hardly be proud of isreal..
And yet, I know Jews.
Funny thing is that non religious people have not changed the situation either have they? Atheism for the fellow man...
Comes as a result of compartmentalising people into separate sects based on lineage/drawn physical borders/blind prejudice/foolish obedience of obvious falsehood.
When we look at the scenario as mankind living on planet earth with our destinies so interconnected in this global age, we find that it's not just a case of race (blind clan worship)/ colonialist borders (soil worship - despite soil not having the ability to speak or legislate) and blind prejudice (just a result of ignorance, whether genuine or manipulated) or foolish obedience of obvious falsehood.
It is a case of finding and trying to understand where and what the truth is and then accepting it.
This doesn't just require seeing and hearing, it requires a study of all past experience, and future possibilities, and deep and serious pondering.
If i were to be transported 2000 years back and show someone a mobile phone, and then tell them that you can see the whole world through the glass screen in the palm of your hand, and that you could also see and hear people on the other side of the planet, and that it all happens via transfer of invisible signals in the air, and bounces of dishes suspended in the sky, a person would either reject it as the crazy ravings of a person with an incredible imagination, or would have to have developed and understanding from experience with such phenomena, or interaction with other people who described such outlandish types of things that had previously come to pass -that what i'm saying could be true or is true.
It would require the excercise of intellect along with a developed faith in such types of miraculous events from experience or from trust in the statements of people they held to be truthful.
We need to look at everything we've been through and all the self contradictory ways of life we've come across or studied, and i assure you that we will find that the guidance of our Creator is the truth and the best and most long term stable way.
And that He's not our enemy trying to exploit and abuse us but our sustainer and guide, and saviour from those who attempt to abuse and exploit us and from the evil consequences of our own actions.
He will without doubt raise us up one day and judge between us in truth.
It is those who achieve good in this short life and in eternity that are the successful, and those who live in anarchy and as a result, inevitably commit injustice that are losers in this life and in eternity.
My God is not karma (though it does exist as a law of God) since i know we'd have all been destroyed by now if it hadn't been for a tremendous amount of grace made available to us.
Let's ponder deeply and if there is any doubt, look at all the other ways of life carefully and we wont have to keep fighting since we'll come to the truth if it's God's will.
We won't be pushing our own agenda nor that of our parents or tribe, or people who claim to represent soil or that of people who are thirsty for power.
I don't claim to be an angel or a person who has a share in the authority of God.
But i sure as heaven and hell know by now that God exists, knows the unseen, has full power and control over His affairs, that none else has such attributes, and that we'll all be raised and judged one day.
Peace to those who sincerely seek and follow the guidance.
You couldn't make this stuff up before the age of electricity and satellite dishes, think.
When matters are entrusted to competent [the Mahdi], Almighty God will raise the lowest part of the world for him, and lower the highest places. So much that he will see the whole world as if in the palm of his hand. Which of you cannot see even a single hair in the palm of his hand?
In the time of the Mahdi, a Muslim in the East will be able to see his Muslim brother in the West, and he in the West will see him in the East
His [the Mahdi's] aim is to establish a moral system from which all superstitious faiths have been eliminated. In the same way that students enter Islam, so unbelievers will come to believe.
When the Mahdi appears, Allah will cause such power of vision and hearing to be manifested in believers that the Mahdi will call to the whole world from where he is, with no*postman*involved, and they will hear and even see him.
Allah is Al Quddus (Holy)
I am a son of Adam (a human being).
Adam pbuh was not created to be perfect, that is why Allah gave guidance and made His grace abundant for those who ask Him.
My job is to inform, and try my best to convey the message in the clearest of terms, Allah judges.
I myself am human, and if i had knowledge of the unseen i would have probably multiplied all good for myself and the matter would have been settled between us long ago.
Allah is the most gracious, and His wrath is indeed something to take heed of. His respite is a blessing for those who take heed and submit to Him within that time, and a curse for those who are foolish enough to oppose Him.
And there is none to be likened unto Him, the Creator of the heavens and the earth, to whom we shall all return.
Time is running out.
Let us be wise.
Those who are wise don't involve faith with fear. The Creator is graceful and doesn't intimidate.
Those who are warring and hurting people are intimidating others. Is that the path? How do you teach someone - is it by saying "if you don't do what I say, the Creator will banish you in his wrath".
It is by doing this over years that the Muslim world has become this way. Your leaders have you afraid.
The Creator's glory is undeniable, it doesn't require treats and intimidation to be established.
All religions can be given a negative image to. The Jews can hardly be proud of isreal..
And yet, I know Jews.
Funny thing is that non religious people have not changed the situation either have they? Atheism for the fellow man...
I hope you see what I'm getting at here.
Who is the Jews, who are the Muslims, who are you? If you were born as a Jew would the word of the Creator be different?
I don't see what you are getting at actually. I am saying that the leadership in the Muslim world has hijacked the true*word and has bad leadership. This fact is very true. Yet, here too we have only talks of accepting Islam.
If you are creating noise and quarreling in your house everyday with your own family members, how will you convince your neighbors and others in the street block of the merit of your lifestyle?
I don't judge Islam as bad, because I know the truth. But the reflection of it comes to the world from it's flag bearers - the leaders in the Muslim world and the Imams
The Mahdi will establish the word of the Creator, not your interpretation of it. Nor will it happen this way that everyone will convert to Islam.
The word of the Creator transcends (goes beyond) a particular language or culture, but it is quickly hijacked that way. It will be understood when it happens.
Who is the Jews, who are the Muslims, who are you? If you were born as a Jew would the word of the Creator be different?
I don't see what you are getting at actually. I am saying that the leadership in the Muslim world has hijacked the true*word and has bad leadership. This fact is very true. Yet, here too we have only talks of accepting Islam.
If you are creating noise and quarreling in your house everyday with your own family members, how will you convince your neighbors and others in the street block of the merit of your lifestyle?
I don't judge Islam as bad, because I know the truth. But the reflection of it comes to the world from it's flag bearers - the leaders in the Muslim world and the Imams
yes the word is/was different.. for a different time and people.
i cant really question leadership.. if it was easy then everybody would do it.
i feel as though you expect a very thorough answer, but the question might as well be what is the meaning of life? ...and i cant tell you anything apparently.
life is noise and quarrel, thats what real relationships are.. highs and lows.
i dont need to convince anybody of my lifestyle.. its far from perfect..
?
if anybody sees any good in me, they are free to take it.
but mostly somebody else does the washing up...
who am i to decide what is bad and good?
funny thing is that i wash up at work like there is no tomorrow.
its a double edged sword right?
like reading a sentence and forgetting the one before it.
...i cant really question leadership ....but you say that the leaders and imams are the flag bearers.
they are not..
i am responsible for who i am, just as you are responsible for who you are.
you say you know the truth..
what truth is it?
i always say, knowledge is not power... application of knowledge is power..
there is a difference between the two and it might as well be the proof of god.
(i can thoroughly believe that jesus pbuh never spoke for himself...although the implications are mind blowing)
all praise is due to allah swt alone, and he has no need of any of us.
yes there is a call towards monotheism and here in particular, islam..
but i dont know what you expect? seriously.. even if you find a public face that you can put in the media to better reflect your islam.
Alif. Lam. Ra.
These are verses of the Wise Scripture.
Is it a wonder for mankind that We have inspired a man among them, saying: Warn mankind
and bring unto those who believe the good tidings that they have a sure footing with their Master?
The disbelievers say: Lo! this is a mere wizard.
Indeed your Master is Allah Who created the heavens and the earth in six Days, then He established Himself upon the Throne, directing all things.
There is no intercessor (with Him) save after His permission. That is Allah, your Master, so Serve Him.
Oh, will ye not be reminded?
(we learn that God is not the jolly father christmas image some of us seem to have mistakenly conjured in our minds).
Repent, Submit and receive assurance of Peace from God.
That's what the term Islam always has meant and will always mean.
In the complete and final scripture, and in the preluding scriptures.
To Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth,
and the Day that the Hour of Judgment is established,
- that Day will the dealers in Falsehood perish!
And thou wilt see every nation bowing the knee
Every nation will be called to its Record:
"This Day shall ye be recompensed for all that ye did!"
Quran, Bowing the knee, Ch 45, V27-28
I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth*in righteousness, and shall not return,
That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear allegiance.
Isaiah Ch 45 V23
yes the word is/was different.. for a different time and people.
Yes, it most certainly was - which is why I am asking the Arabs and their offshot to stop hijacking the word and threatening people, and making others uncomfortable in their own home countries. You want to start with the history of a country like Pakistan or see the Zoroastrian persecution for what it was, or the pressures evil Imams are putting on Europeans, which has lead to the unfortunate eruption of Muslims being alienated in Europe, then we can talk.
i cant really question leadership.. if it was easy then everybody would do it.
You can, and you should rather.
life is noise and quarrel, thats what real relationships are.. highs and lows.
Save the mushy talk. This is not a 'quarrel'.
you say you know the truth..
what truth is it?
I do, but I say it not in vain. The truth can't be realized by logic or conversation. There are Muslim leaders who know the truth as well, but the power of the evil Imams who are not actually following the word of Allah, but playing number games are popular. The leadership in the Middle East that allows Western powers to enter because of their own spinelessness are responsible. Yet you say you can't question leadership. This is the problem - leadership. I didn't come here to disrespect Islam.
(we learn that God is not the jolly father christmas image some of us seem to have mistakenly conjured in our minds).
No he is not. But don't claim to know Him. If you realized, your reasoning wouldn't be the way it is.
Repent, Submit and receive assurance of Peace from God.
That's what the term Islam always has meant and will always mean.
In the complete and final scripture, and in the preluding scriptures.
God is not a gangster either, who threatens people to follow him giving grave consequences. In Isaiah 45:23, what is stated is a factual occurrence in the future. Don't imagine that you have the truth, or the Islam (the way it is followed today) is the truth. The prophecies are true, but don't imagine that it will happen in this sense that all Jews, Christians and ...ehm kafurs would turn to Islam out of fear or realization of their sole faults. Of course when he (Christ) comes you will see.
To make you think critically, Christians would hold that everyone would convert to Christianity, Muslims would hold that everyone to Islam, and Judaism would hold that everyone to their faith. What makes each think the other is wrong? It's just bias. The fact is the Truth transcends these boundaries. And neither is Arabic is the language of the Creator, it was only a means to give the message to the Arabs, like I type this in English.
Hmmm,
The double-speak is just flabbergasting, hopefully it's not with malicious intent despite it seeming so.
Please take the opportunity to read the Quran at least once.
It will inshaAllah open your mind a little.
And since the very relevant story of Jonah has already been made available previously and appears to have remained quite intact, it seems Allah didn't go into too much detail this time around, maybe read it through if possible and you'll notice a clear ultimatum.
It's only three pages. http://www2.hn.psu.edu/faculty/jmanis/bible/jonah.pdf
Not sure what you're trying to imply by the term "gangster" - the word is usually applied to mujrimun, but if you mean it in the context of having a large group of people/angels under oneself, then yes, God has a big gang, one not to be overcome by any amount of effort, as stated in Surah al Muddatthir none can know the forces of thy Master but He.
Yet, even without the "gang", He can just will a thing and it is.
The "gang" just helps us understand things in human comparison, plurality, since people seem to sometimes become proud or arrogant due to the number of people they have at their beck and call, and plus, it doesn't befit the majesty of God to deal with minor issues Himself, He seems to have reserved most of that 'til the day when He takes full account, the day when everyone stands to full attention - quivering and without arrogance.
Yes, it most certainly was - which is why I am asking the Arabs and their offshot to stop hijacking the word and threatening people, and making others uncomfortable in their own home countries. You want to start with the history of a country like Pakistan or see the Zoroastrian persecution for what it was, or the pressures evil Imams are putting on Europeans, which has lead to the unfortunate eruption of Muslims being alienated in Europe, then we can talk.
You can, and you should rather.
Save the mushy talk. This is not a 'quarrel'.
I do, but I say it not in vain. The truth can't be realized by logic or conversation. There are Muslim leaders who know the truth as well, but the power of the evil Imams who are not actually following the word of Allah, but playing number games are popular. The leadership in the Middle East that allows Western powers to enter because of their own spinelessness are responsible. Yet you say you can't question leadership. This is the problem - leadership. I didn't come here to disrespect Islam.
Its funny that you mention Pakistan.. Its history is rooted in Europe. Same as isreal. Maybe you were implying that..
Anyway it seems you over think our importance, history has seen this cycle countless times.. No doubt they are getting increasingly efficient at creating it
Funny thing is, if it were meant to be any different it would be..
Everybody is 'created' really.. Very hard to adjust to.
Although my view further highlights the importance of religion and maybe how they differ sometimes
France rightly banned the Niqqab - this is an extremist form of islam which is never mentioned in the Quran. Hijaab is mandatory and should be worn
All these personal freedoms yet eventually some lines must be drawn. If i could never see the faces of people I am talking to, be it professional or friendly, I feel as though the other person involved as a veil over me. I can not see facial expressions so can not guage any truth to her voice - and this could obviously have big effects depending on the situation. Though this will not be a huge problem, is inherently disadvantages everyone else.
I'm all for womens rights and the desire to do what you want ( I am incredibly left wing muslim). But overdressing is for me as problematic as under dressing. This isn't an attack on religion (how can it be if not mentioned and enforced in Quran ) but rather an attack on culture - a problem many muslim majority nations and advocates of the niqqab fail to speak of. It it not your religious obligation. The fact you are even considering it to completely hide your identity from the outside world voluntarily is actually in my opinion an example of distorted body image view - this seems to be a resounding reason I keep hearing of - that they get male attention and feel awkward. The problem is some men need to be educated etc etc, you shouldnt have to be the one to change unless true harm keeps coming your way
Good luck
Its funny that you mention Pakistan.. Its history is rooted in Europe. Same as isreal. Maybe you were implying that..
Please understand I am an ally of Islam because it is the Creator's word. But think of this - you see Pakistan was a region of non-Muslim populations, it is now a Muslim majority. Has the country's progress been close to India? (the British ruled this region once and partitioned it). The leadership in Muslim countries is unreasonable, and militant. This is what I am trying to say. These leaders don't represent the word of the Creator.
Anyway it seems you over think our importance, history has seen this cycle countless times..
Which cycle?
Funny thing is, if it were meant to be any different it would be..
All things happen as per the will of the Creator, true. But the process of our lives and higher aspirations shouldn't be left stagnant or dormant.
Please take the opportunity to read the Quran at least once.
It will inshaAllah open your mind a little.
I assure you I have read it :-) That is why I state whatever I have. I know it may be hard to see me as an ally, but I assure you that I am.
The leaders of the Muslim world are using the same threatening rhetoric you are. You cannot frighten people into the word - this is what the Muslim leadership is doing, not just against non-Muslims but against the factions of Muslims too - I made the gangster comment in this light.
The Creator is not like a king. The Creator can't be really compared to anything present. We mustn't speak of Him in vain, let alone use His name for political agendas.
wow...i haven't logged in for a couple of days and this thread is still hot with many new posts! Can't keep up...
... hard to keep up...
Mainly from the finer points brought up on the matter. Also with so many things happening islamic or not, terrorists or not, all being lumped into the 'extremist islam' bundle that with every new happening, everything under the islam banner gets thrown into the spotlight. From its leadership all the way down... How do we start a conversation or even a discussion when everything is up for scrutineering?
The problem that I see is that there is a 'movement' that seems to have islam in its sights. To slowly but surely break it down and create confusion amongst the ranks.
As I said earlier in my post here, these little acts like the publishing of the cartoon is done to get a reaction from the 1 billion odd muslims from around the world. Someone will react. When they do, the public reaction machinery against islam goes into motion. This is not the end of it. There will be other 'schemes' that will be thought about and implemented in due course to incite more reaction from the muslim community just because they can do it, regardless of the potential consequences. When the reaction eventually comes, shouts against islam and their extremists ways will once again be heard....
It's all part of the agenda.
On something different, I have read about the decreasing numbers of people attending churches etc. despite the 'loosening up' of the practice and beliefs. Christians were supposed to circumcise (but abandoned the practice as it was a sure sign of being a follower of the Scriptures) and can be killed for it. Wearing clothing that covers the 'aurat' (like the muslim women are suposed to do) also got left behind leaving only the nuns to wear it.... why? Drinking alcohol was also not allowed (America tried to ban alcohol during the prohibition) but was not successful in keeping it up. Easter was supposed to be a period for fasting, again no longer practiced. Still, despite the relaxed laws, many people still outgrew the religion and the idea of Jesus being crucified for the sins of mankind is the easiest 'get out of jail' free card anyone can give. Even this idea has not convinced many and the churches are still left with a declining number of followers.
Islam on the other hand has not changed very much, despite the 'upgrades' of other religions. It has remained true to the message (not all believers follow the message in the true spirit of what it is meant to be, granted). At worst, when they manipulate it to serve themselves in power. Allah will have them accountable for their actions.
With this in mind, it is imperative that something needs to be done to check the spread of islam. And this is what is happening.
Just my strong opinion.
As long as my heart does beat, I shall live, not lie
For when my heart does stop its beat, with truth, I die.
God
is not a gangster either, who threatens people to follow him giving grave consequences. In Isaiah 45:23, what is stated is a factual occurrence in the future.
Don't imagine that you have the truth,
or the Islam
(the way it is followed today)
is the truth.
The prophecies are true, but don't imagine that it will happen in this sense that all Jews, Christians and ...ehm kafurs would turn to Islam out of fear or realization of their sole faults. Of course when he
(Christ)
comes you will see.
Hmmm....... truly mind boggling.....
do i read it without the brackets.....
or do i accept both brackets in context of the reference to God?
Or do i do the best thing and take it as a cue to get my mind racing and start researching the truth?
The swearing and taking name in vain cliche is also familiar to a certain mindset.
Creeping evangelism has been detected in many forms on this forum itself, but if this were a specimen i'd give it to ya that it's a first.
As someone who works with computers, i keep remembering the "mozilla" browser from nsa that installs malware codes. Rings alarm bells....... (is it lesser of the two "evils" taqiyyah with fingers crossed? Or a useful nudge pointing at the thorns that strew the path?).
Better to be honest and sincere, and judge and guide by what Allah has revealed.
Don't get me wrong, the first things i download when i flash my phone are the Quran, the Bible and the Sahih hadith - since they contain the clues to the future, (and the future is why we strive at present) i try to be sincere and delve through them for what might be the truth - and the intellect is a useful tool.
format_quote Originally Posted by LearnIslam
The Creator is not like a king. The Creator can't be really compared to anything present. We mustn't speak of Him in vain, let alone use His name for political agendas.
Which is why i humbly asked you to read the Quran,
He (Most Exalted and Perfect) refers to Himself as:
Al Malik Al Haqq - The True King.
Al Malik Al Mulk - The King of The Kingdom/Dominion.
And in Surah Al Hashr as
Al Malik - The King (amongst other beautiful qualities and names).
And on the Day of Judgement, He gathers all the humbled and frightened tyrants before Him and asks: Li-Man-il-Mulk Al-Yawm - Who's is the Kingdom this Day?
Regarding brother greenhill's comment on the fact that the truth remains strong in it's pristine condition despite it being portrayed as strange - well, the strangers ultimately receive the glad tidings for their steadfast perseverance on the truth.
Here's a standing ovation received by who'da thunk in - Denmark!!!
–*Exclusive!
Panamza has contacted the mother of Helric Fredou – the Police Commissioner charged with preparing a report on the family background of Charlie Hebdo – who was found dead with a bullet in the head just hours after the attack.
I asked for the autopsy report and was told: “You won’t get it.”
Friday, January 16, Panamza published*the disturbing testimony of the sister of police officer Helric Fredou,*whose mysterious “suicide” continues to be ignored by the national media.
Nine days later, it was the mother’s turn to bring new revelations.*
Fredou’s Mother Contacted by the author, she said that at first she was “enormously shocked” that Minister of the Interior Bernard Cazeneuve had not passed her his condolences. The Interior Minister maintained, she said, an excellent relationship with her deceased son.
From 2010 to 2012, the two men were brought together to work at Cherbourg, one as deputy mayor of the city, the other in his capacity as chief commissioner. “I hope one day I cross paths with him*to tell him how very disappointed I was,” she added.
The*Elysee was also (oddly) unresponsive. Helric Fredou had been*responsible for – among other localités – *Corrèze including Tulle, historic stronghold of Francois Hollande.
Panamza will soon return with the*entirety of her testimony, collected through a telephone interview recorded Saturday, January 24.
In the meantime, here are seven key points:*
1 According to the mother of Helric Fredou, police officers with whom she spoke*expressly advised that she would not have access to the autopsy report. The Code of Criminal Procedure, however, provides that in any case of *legal autopsy (for suicide or suspicious death), any member of the family can make a request to the prosecutor.
“Give it up”*is the message being*sent to a bereaved mother who “wants to know the truth.”
2 * Helric Fredou’s service weapon was not equipped with a silencer.
Her mother has asked a basic question to his colleagues:
“Why didn’t you hear*anything when he was shot at about midnight?”
Laconic reply: “His office was well insulated.”
3 * According to his mother, Helric Fredou wanted to make*an important phone call after doing two things: debriefing “three investigators” who went out to*question the immediate family of a victim of the attack on Charlie Hebdo (in this case, the relatives of*Jeannette Bougrab –*Charb’s self-styled girlfriend – as was discovered and disclosed *by Panamza) and then checking “social networks.” It is at this point that Fredou would have made such an important deduction that he “wanted to keep working.”
Important point: the unidentified “commander” in the office that night *wanted to take charge of*debriefing investigators and writing the report, but Fredou insisted “It’s my job.”
The direct superior of Helric Fredou is Gil Friedman, director of the Regional Criminal Police, Limoges.
4 * According to police, Helric Fredou raised the barrel of his revolver to his forehead and the bullet remained inside the skull.
5 * Helric Fredou’s attending physician, *with whom his mother spoke Thursday, January 22, refuses to accept the picture*sketched by the handful of articles about Freidou’s death that*cited his alleged “depression” and supposed*“burn-out”.*
6 The mother wanted to know who made the last call to her son. Police reportedly retorted “We*are unable to say” before finally claiming that no such call had been*made.
7 * “Four Directors” of the police, specifically from Paris, met Helric Fredou’s mother to offer*condolences and try to convince her that her son was a “suicide”.
Finally, another odd fact*deserves to be reported here:
apart from the author of these lines, NO journalist has contacted – from January 8th onward – the mother or sister Helric Fredou to*try to shed light on*the case.
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