ISIS or IS smashing and looting and selling artifacts on the black market

format_quote Originally Posted by جوري

lol... where is the grave of Joseph? a few years ago the Jews on this very forum proclaimed that the Palestinians destroyed it, a method to secure more lands..
And against whom are they khwarij?
kharjo 3la alkufr wal3hor kulo fa toba lahoum

Sis,

The Daesh (foreremly known as ISIS: http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...-rebrands-isis) are perverting Islam. While we may have the luxury of staying on the sidelines it becomes obligatory on the Ulema to speak against it. They are inheritors of the Prophet(AS) and tasked with preserving the Message. Scholars aren't infallable which is why Ijmaa is important and the Ijmaa of the Ulema is clearly against Daesh. And if you are claiming the Ulema of Ahlus Sunnah Jum'ah (Scholars as a whole) have deviated then that claim has no basis in Qur'an and Sunnah. So Until there is any evidence to prove otherwise it would be HARAM to support the Daesh.

Nor do I give you any credence over a renowned Scholar who led the uprising in Syria against the Assad Regime. The merits of ulema who speak against Tyranny are many.

I write against Daesh to prevent them duping brothers and sisters in our Ummah. for example:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...ge-east-london

Can our Sisters go without a Wali and without their permision to stay in foreign nations? Does it not speak volumes regarding their nature of this group? Is this what you want to encourage? Have you gone around and spoken to the Imams of Masajids telling woes of distraught families affected by this? Before we part blame on the Ulema one must ask themselves what they have done to help the Ummah,

As for whether Allah Most High holds me accountable for speaking against those who are clearly desecrating His Message or the one who one encourages it through blind subservience remains to be seen!

Feel free to show how these Fatwa's against Daesh have been misapplied:
https://freehalab.wordpress.com/2014...lamic-council/

Did they care violation of the body of the Prophet(AS) which we know are preserved in their graves? No!
http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...-up-jonah-tomb

Allah Most High says:
"Who is more cruel than the one who prevents the mosques of Allah from His name being recited therein, and strives for their destruction? It was not for such men to enter them except in awe. For them there is disgrace in this world, and for them there is a mighty punishment in the other world."

What does it say about the Piety of these people when Allah Most High says:
"And whoever honors the symbols of Allah - indeed, it is from the piety of hearts." 22:32

It resembles the acts of their founding fathers the Saudis who thought it necesary to purify the lands of polythiesm! Hence started the onslaught making Bid'a that which is not Bid'a by calling it Bid'a, in itself a Bid'a(!).

If the argument is that there was no Prophet(AS) then know that this is against the Ijmaa of Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jama'a.The Sahabah, Tabi'en and those after them did not mention otherwise while they were in it's vicinity speaks volumes!

Imam al-Nawawi (d. 676 AH) has mentioned that 'Imarat al-Qubur in the case of the Anbiya` (prophets), 'Ulama` (scholars) and Salihin (righteous persons) is allowed:
Source: "Rawdhat al-Talibin"

The land on which Prophets are buried are obviously blessed. And it increases the chances of supplications being accepted when made in blessed lands:
"O Mary, from where is this [coming] to you?" She said, "It is from Allah. Indeed, Allah provides for whom He wills without account." (Qur'an, 3:37)
At that, Zechariah called upon his Lord, saying, "My Lord, grant me from Yourself a good offspring. Indeed, You are the Hearer of supplication."(3:38)

Their killing of Sunni Muslims and Mujahideen!

http://www.bilalabdulkareem.com/whya...yriafightisis/
http://www.bilalabdulkareem.com/whya...fightingisis2/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvNupoSw_u8

And their unjust killing of Non-Muslims who have gone to help Muslims. Allah Most High says:

"whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely.[5:32]

Yvonne Ridley reverted to Islam after she was captured by them. She was fortunate she didn't meet Daesh!

I don't see Daesh as a resistance group because they fight against other resistance groups. ISIS is a colonialist, foreign occupier whose only intention with the revolution is to destroy it and grab its land. As for examples of Sunni Mujahideen (non-khawarij) who have fought and are fighting against Tyranny such as Muhammad Sa’id Burhani's fight against the french during their occupation of Syria, the Mujahideen in Chechnya, Jihad Sqaudron of Shaykh Abd-Qadir Jilani(RA) in Iraq, other rebel groups in Syria and the Taliban in Afghanistan to name a few.

What INFURIARATED me was when the Omar Baghdad insulted a hero of mine who for years fought against foreign occupiers:
http://www.khaama.com/mullah-omar-is...dadi-says-9291

And they are fighting Taliban!
http://www.seattletimes.com/nation-w...hting-taliban/

The Mujahideen of Aghanistan... with only reliance on Allah Most High for sustenance in harsh terrains, battle hardened bodies and fearless eyes draw awe from those around them; friend or foe. It is where the Black Banner grew prominence. I believe there is a tribute to them at end of Rambo 3. And such is the nature of true Mujahideen, the likes of which draw praise due to their conduct such as Salahu-uddin Ayubi(RA) and Omar Mukhtar(RA).

The battle for survival of the Ummah isn't just on the battlefield on the grounds, we are attacked from all sides. So I too must help the Ummah in my own way for I cannot match such warriors... an excuse? I leave the Judgement to Ar-Rahman-Ar-Rahim

More on Taliban:
A Jew defends the Taliban, by telling the Truth
http://dailycaller.com/2010/08/10/st...-organization/

format_quote Originally Posted by جوري

you can cut the crap

ooOOOOoo... FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!

format_quote Originally Posted by جوري

even Makkah isn't more important to Allah than a single drop of Muslim blood spilled, you people are full of it!

Tell Daesh about the sanctity of Muslim blood.

Full of it? Indeed..."Who eat all the pies?" . wasn't "us", I believe it was your lot. Porkie pies that is ... tut tut

Thanks for the guardian articles and the rest of the net drivel in order to be munsif you should at least present two sides but none of that here I know I know -
the 'inheritors of the prophets' - you should read the full hadith!

فقال: إن العلماء ورثة الأنبياء، إن الأنبياء لم يورثوا ديناراً ولا درهماً إنما ورثوا العلم فمن

I think that speaks volumes but where to start with all the net scholars without basic knowledge in uloom alhadith nor arabic. The fact that they receive salaries and air time for their services is telling innit?
you'll be happy to know that when the Mongols and crusaders invaded all the king' scholars who were passing their fatwas not unlike today were amongst the first to be slaughtered- guess cowardice can only go so far
Allah swt will make victorious whom he wills and no amount of verbiage from rabid dogs who've no desire for Islam to prosper and have gone after every group in momentary power be they brotherhood or jabhat an'nusra or Hamas or who ever else until you became factions or Shiites with no power like hobos roaming the earth to no end.
Allah swt knows whom his soldiers are and he knows who started the aggression.
As for making Islam look bad I can't laugh enough at that- good luck making it look good and amassing more hypocrites to gnaw at it from within!

Doesn't it strike you odd that Taliban are now friends with US? Hmmmm


all the best,

format_quote Originally Posted by جوري

Thanks for the guardian articles and the rest of the net drivel in order to be munsif you should at least present two sides but none of that here I know I know -

I don't know the other side of the story. Do you? I'd like to know what they say about the Fatwas and clear Injunctions of Qur'an they have breached.

format_quote Originally Posted by جوري

the 'inheritors of the prophets' - you should read the full hadith!

فقال: [FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=green]إن العلماء ورثة الأنبياء، إن الأنبياء لم يورثوا ديناراً ولا درهماً إنما ورثوا العلم فمن

Scholars aren't infalible but Saint's/Awliya and Mujaddids are saved from straying. The Boy in the story the ditch and the Group which went to the Cave in Surat Kahf are examples from Qur'an. It stands to reason the greatest Ummah on earth has many. The 10 who are garanteed Jannah are just some that are named however it stands to reason that those who pass a certain threshhold in their Ibadat pass a point of no return.

Believing the narrative that Ummah as a whole deviates and being part of a minority that rises to bring back the real practice of "Qur'an and Sunnah" from the clutches of deviant scholars certainly fuels ego of conceited individuals but has no basis in Quran and Sunnah. And we know what Allah Most High says about the arrogant don't we?

As for scholars receiving money for air time, not sure which scholars you mean nor where you got the proof they got money. Are you insinuating you have proof that certain scholars were paid to come on air and speak against Daesh?

No where have I said I am against the Daesh because they make Islam "look Bad". I am against them for their perversion of Qur'an and Sunnah. If you have the other side of the story which proves otherwise I will be glad to retract what I have said against them.

format_quote Originally Posted by InToTheRain

Saint's/Awliya and Mujaddids are saved from straying.

You lost me there.. I stopped reading, actually after the barrage of Guardian articles. I can't find credibility in a Muslim learning about Islam or other Muslims through gossip.. I mean even the most callous of judges hears both sides, testimony and evidence..
Good luck with all that bro..
I pretty much posted my last here:
Do you know of the The Constellations (85) Do you know of Ashab Al'ukhdood?
and with that I bid you farewell with all those delusions.
btw the sultan Mahmoud bin sabktkeen when spreading Islam destroyed all the false idols although he was offered large sums to leave them be and folks would embrace Islam anyway, he refused https://mobile.twitter.com/dreman_al...044032/photo/1
and you're speaking of rubbing against false graves, furthermore, Abu bakr, killed those who declared shahada, they were called murtadeen for not paying zakat, not openly holding 'ya zeinab' in Makkah..
I don't think you really know Islam the unadulterated form, I reckon if the sahaba were around now you'd call them khwarij..

ISIS are bunch of our own sisters and brothers whose have started to follow the path of Shaytan. Before we start to find excuses from the influence of the west why they left, we have to look to the mirror and ask why they left us and the right path of Islam.

format_quote Originally Posted by جوري

You lost me there.. I stopped reading, actually after the barrage of Guardian articles. I can't find credibility in a Muslim learning about Islam or other Muslims through gossip.. I mean even the most callous of judges hears both sides, testimony and evidence..
Good luck with all that bro..
I pretty much posted my last here:
Do you know of the The Constellations (85) Do you know of Ashab Al'ukhdood?
and with that I bid you farewell with all those delusions.
btw the sultan Mahmoud bin sabktkeen when spreading Islam destroyed all the false idols although he was offered large sums to leave them be and folks would embrace Islam anyway, he refused and you're speaking of rubbing against false graves, furthermore, Abu bakr, killed those who declared shahada, they were called murtadeen for not paying zakat, not openly holding 'ya zeinab' in Makkah..
I don't think you really know Islam the unadulterated form, I reckon if the sahaba were around now you'd call them khwarij..

I mentioned rubbing heads on graves? LOL, and what's this claptrap about Ya zeynab?

Sis, you making conjectures and applying them to me says more about your understanding of Islam then it does mine.

All the best...

format_quote Originally Posted by InToTheRain

I mentioned rubbing heads on graves? LOL, and what's this claptrap about Ya zeynab?

Sis, you making conjectures and applying them to me says more about your understanding of Islam then it does mine.

All the best...

If you don't have the full 'claptrap' but upset about a grave and consider some people infallible and claim to fame is majority think/say then there's no other conclusion!
ibrahim was an ummah all to himself he himself destroyed 'ancient monument' and when Islam began it was strange against popular beliefs, seasoned chieftains and common wisdom and many of you are still apologizing for it today they want you ashamed and sadly you're! ahe who doesn't speak of his whim stated it will return strange as it was and here it's

format_quote Originally Posted by sister herb

ISIS are bunch of our own sisters and brothers whose have started to follow the path of Shaytan. Before we start to find excuses from the influence of the west why they left, we have to look to the mirror and ask why they left us and the right path of Islam.

Sister I am not sure if we could've done anything to stop them. Many rejected the message of Mohammad(SAW) after being given Dawah. Was it due to him(SAW) lacking something? NO! Rather it was due to the diseases within their hearts which caved to shaitan and many are his paths.

Here is a lecture on the cure:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oxi8lJXqLP8

format_quote Originally Posted by جوري

If you don't have the full 'claptrap' but upset about a grave and consider some people infallible and claim to fame is majority think/say then there's no other conclusion!
ibrahim was an ummah all to himself he himself destroyed 'ancient monument' and when Islam began it was strange against popular beliefs, seasoned chieftains and common wisdom and many of you are still apologizing for it today they want you ashamed and sadly you're! ahe who doesn't speak of his whim stated it will return strange as it was and here it's

I didn't say "Infallible", i said "saved from straying". Know the difference. It is an acquired state and if this is not true then there are Many examples on whom Mohammad(SAW) garanteed Jannah while they walked the earth.

And apparently the Hadiths about Mujadids are not true according to you nor the hadiths corroborating the Majority the Majority are the saved sect? On what Basis to you reject them?

Wouldn't you be upset if you heard someone blew up Masjid Nabawi?

الجماعة doesn't mean majority nor popularity rather means من جمع على حق
Those who are in concordance with truth
you can find yourself one of two muslims in a land full kuffr then you'd be اهل السنة والجماعة
I find it tiresome to argue not because I wish to convince you of anything of IS is wrong then may Allah **** them and if they're right may they be granted victory.
What I find frustrating is lack of knowledge in arabic, Islam, common sense history or even politics a little long term politics that is.
Indeed Id be upset if a mosque is destroyed the Shiites destroyed khalid IBN ilwaleed mosque in Syria and his grave were you upset then? Like monunents in Samaraa you probably haven't even heard of it
the guardian et al decided that wasn't important enough so no story and no threads about it here.
ibn taymyah said look at where the arrows of the enemies and their allies are falling then you'll learn perhaps then how much trickery there's in war!
by the way I challenge you to bring actual speeches from youtube if they aren't removed for obvious reasons and superimpose them on the inane articles you post here.
He said, they did, oh the outrage yet a million Sunnah killed thousands displaced in Iraq alone entire families burned or suffer horrible diseases from White phosphorous and cluster bombs yet they've you crying over a pilot sent to kill Muslims or yazidis asked to pay jizyah which is substantially less than the taxes imposed by the Shiites in a Sunni majority country a few turds run the show the dog of Iran aside from his systematic killings of Sunnis was a lingerie seller that was his qualification Sobhan Allah is all I can say - fear, cowardice, ignorance that sums up muslims at large and if they've a drive its a drive to liberate a stretch of land so they can go fishing. Newsflash with all those planes flying over Syria and Iraq palestine is closer maybe now you understand If they'd a desire to free al'aqsa they'd have. Those Arab kafir armies are shield guarding Israel. And you too unwittingly fight to sustain Her.
talking about other people is the traits of kafirs and those who wish to cause sedition those who work don't have time to yap!

The ego is indeed stirred to life when debating, and people tend to take a side with which they identify or against a side with which they have grown to be suspicious of - except when Allah has mercy.

Let's try and rise above it and judge by what Allah has revealed, or we may find ourselves digging deeper in a marsh.

We must always remember to try and cobsider how Allah judges it and be careful of fake firefox browsers at the same time.
Thing with the situation in shaam is that the lines are purposefully confused, distorted and blurred, and that too is a test of Allah, regardless of whether dajjal is the fitnah stoker.

O servants of Allah, adhere to Allah, the fitnahs will only strengthen us and make us wise, and if we die in the process, we reach judgement in a state of contentment.

Sometimes i want to go to syria to see what's happening.
And sometimes i think, why fall into the trap of dajjal?
And other times i despair of the situation around me and envy the people there who are able to live in a land where the Laws of Allah are implemented.
But i need to cast out the log in my own eye before accusing my brother of nifaq, who knows, maybe he too has had a logs inserted in it against his will.

Consider these verses where Allah warns us against the plots of shaytaan, bearing in mind that some enemies of truth wrongly want us to abandon Islam by rejecting the concept and requirement of a genuine Islamic State, and in the name of abanoning evil actions of certain labelled people.
Isn't it amazing how Allah gets us wondering by putting the verses of caution next to the verses of Jihad?
Certainly makes us evaluate on a higher plain.

105.*And say: "Work (righteousness): Soon will Allah observe your work, and His Messenger, and the Believers: Soon will ye be brought back to the knower of what is hidden and what is open: then will He show you the truth of all that ye did."

106.*There are (yet) others, held in suspense for the command of Allah, whether He will punish them, or turn in mercy to them: and Allah is All-Knowing, Wise.

107.*And there are those who put up a mosque by way of mischief and infidelity - to disunite the Believers - and in preparation for one who warred against Allah and His Messenger aforetime.
They will indeed swear that their intention is nothing but good; But Allah doth declare that they are certainly liars.

108.*Never stand thou forth therein. There is a mosque whose foundation was laid from the first day on piety; it is more worthy of the standing forth (for prayer) therein. In it are men who love to be purified; and Allah loveth those who make themselves pure.

109.*Which then is best? - he that layeth his foundation on piety to Allah and His good pleasure? - or he that layeth his foundation on an undermined sand-cliff ready to crumble to pieces? and it doth crumble to pieces with him, into the fire of Hell. And Allah guideth not people that do wrong.

110.*The foundation of those who so build is never free from suspicion and shakiness in their hearts, until their hearts are cut to pieces. And Allah is All-Knowing, Wise.

111.*Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah. then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme.
112.*Those that turn (to Allah. in repentance; that serve Him, and praise Him; that wander in devotion to the cause of Allah,: that bow down and prostrate themselves in prayer; that enjoin good and forbid evil; and observe the limit set by Allah.- (These do rejoice). So proclaim the glad tidings to the Believers.

Quran chapter 9, At-Tawbah, Verses 105-112

Allah also tells us to travel through the land and see what was the end of those before us,
We have left it as a sign for hearts that ponder,
Have they not passed by the land on which was rained a shower of evil etc etc
The prophet pbuh passed by the wells of thamud, he left both in tact
Umar (ra) left the pyramids in egypt.
Even the sphynx survived for some confusing reason
Not that we should be against the destruction of idols of men's making.
Apply the law with sincerity, justice and truth.

It is wrong to carry out a conspiracy to remove all traces of the early period of Islam and delete history in order to hide goodness and promote sin in an attempt to turn it into a myth in the minds of future generations. (there was a memory hole in orwell's 1984 which they used to destroy evidence and distort facts).
The enemies of Allah will lose anyway, isn't that obvious by now?

I once heard Anwar Awlaki say that 'umar (ra) was informed of the discovery of the pristine body of a prophet (possibly daniel), and he ordered that a swarm of graves be dug, and had it buried at night in order to prevent people from venerating it, and that he (ra) had the tree at hudaybiyyah under which the oath of allegiance took place cut down when he (ra) saw people were going to it for blessing.
When you put that into the correct context, you notice that he (ra) was attempting to save the people from shirk,
It is not the same when history is deleted and then denied in order to propound a falsehood and make people disbelieve the truth.
I noticed that the house of the prophet pbuh has been obscured in makkah, does it stand to reason when a monstrousity has been erected over the residence of the uthmani caliph by one who rejects the implementation of the law of Allah, a monstrouity which makes the ka'bah look insignificant?

Then again, maybe they plotted a plot, and Allah planned, makes one wonder at the magnificence of walleed bin talal, and makes another realise that Allah Most High doesn't live in a tiny box.

Mankind is being tested, the results it seems are close to being handed out.











And Pharaoh said, "O eminent ones, I have not known you to have a god other than me.
Then ignite for me, O Haman, [a fire] upon the clay and make for me a tower that I may look at the God of Moses.
And indeed, I do think he is among the liars."

Qarun was doubtless, of the people of Moses; but he acted insolently towards them: such were the treasures We had bestowed on him that their very keys would have been a burden to a body of strong men, behold, his people said to him: "Exult not, for Allah loveth not those who exult.
But seek with that which Allah has bestowed on you, the home of the Hereafter, and forget not your portion of lawful enjoyment in this world,' and do good as Allah has been good to you, and seek not mischief in the land. Verily, Allah likes not the Mufsidun (those who commit great crimes and sins, oppressors, tyrants, mischief-makers, corrupters)."

He said: "This has been given to me only because of the knowledge I possess."

Did he not know that Allah had destroyed before him generations, men who were stronger than him in might and greater in the amount (of riches) they had collected?
But the Mujrimun (criminals, disbelievers, polytheists, sinners) will not be questioned of their sins.

Al Waleed is a powerful and highly influential voice within the Saudi and regional business communities Though it doesn’t hurt to be a prince, al Waleed calls himself a self-made man, who used a $30,000 loan from his father to start his own business and founded a business empire that is valued at around $23bln 28 years later.

13. (S) So effective has US programming been, said XXXXXXXXXXXX, that it is widely assumed that the USG must be behind it. Some believe, he said, that Prince Talal’s relationship with Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp and its sister company Twentieth Century Fox has a clear ideological motive behind it, noting that the Fox Movie Channel on “Rotana” is available for free to anyone with a satellite dish. Both XXXXXXXXXXXX and XXXXXXXXXXXX, liberal-minded supporters of US democracy and society with little use for conspiracy theory, clearly believed this was the case.

¶14. (S) While revenue from commercials on Rotana’s Fox Movie Channel probably matter more to Prince Waleed than the dissemination of western ideas (MBC and Rotana are in a bitter battle for market share) it is easy to understand why XXXXXXXXXXXX, XXXXXXXXXXXX and XXXXXXXXXXXX believe that this programming is having a profound effect on the values and worldviews of Saudi audiences

Satellite broadcasts of the US TV shows Desperate Housewives and Late Show With David Letterman are doing more to persuade Saudi youth to reject violent jihad than hundreds of millions of dollars of US government propaganda, informants have told the American embassy in Jeddah.


Broadcast uncensored and with Arabic subtitles alongside sitcoms such as Friends on Saudi Arabia's MBC 4 channel, the shows are being allowed as part of the kingdom's "war of ideas" against extremist elements. According to a secret cable titled "David Letterman: Agent of Influence", they have been proving more effective than Washington's main propaganda tool, the US-funded al-Hurra TV news channel.

In further evidence of the advance of US media in Saudi Arabia, the same cable revealed that one of Rupert Murdoch's sons held talks with the board of al-Eqtisadiah, a Saudi Arabian daily newspaper, about a deal to publish an Arabic version of the Wall Street Journal. The meeting was said to have been called at the behest of Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, a billionaire businessman and shareholder in News Corporation. The 35% Bin Talal-owned SRMG media group, which owns al-Eqtisadiah, was also trying to win a contract to publish the International Herald Tribune uncensored in Saudi Arabia, the cable reveals.

22. Nay! They say: "We found our fathers following a certain religion, and we guide ourselves by their footsteps."

23. And similarly, We sent not a warner before you to any town but the luxurious ones among them said:

"We found our fathers following a certain way and religion, and we will indeed follow their footsteps."


24. (The warner) said: "Even if I bring you better guidance than that which you found your fathers following?"
They said: "Verily, We disbelieve in that with which you have been sent."

25. So We took revenge of them, then see what was the end of those who denied (Islamic Monotheism).

format_quote Originally Posted by جور ي

الجماعةdoesn't mean majority nor popularity rather means من جمع على حق
Those who are in concordance with truth
you can find yourself one of two muslims in a land full kuffr then you'd be اهل السنة والجماعة

Ukhti,

These aren't times when "Islam has become strange" which will happen near the day of Judgement after Isa(AS) rule; times when people will say "I remember my parents saying "Allah, Allah".
These are times of Fitnah; Shaitan has left no stone unturned in Attacking us through the works of evil scholars and corrupt leaders. I do not consider myself more fotunate than my brothers and sisters in wore torn regions whom will die as Shaheeds! I surrender to the conditions He has set for my tribulation, I am happy with His decree. I am pleased with Him and pray that he be pleased with me... No power have I without Him. It is not the Majority of Muslims that have power but a minority in whos hands are power which they abuse due to love for the Dunya. So I wouldn't lump Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jama'a with them! Nor do I know the inditricate details of their affair, I leave that with Allah Most High to Judge and hope they change their priorities.

Nor is it an obligation to destroy everything that is worshipped by polytheists for that would mean we would have to destroy the Sun, cattle and etc! The Idols needed to be destroyed within the boundaries of the Haraam because Angels do not descend within the vicinity where they exist; whom will prevent the army of Dajjal from entering. The Angels do not enter the vicinity of those that that expose their Awrah (private parts) also but we do not go around beheading those that expose them!

Nor has Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jama'a ever deviated from the Path of Haqq, preserved by the 4 Madhabs whos Imams were Mujdaddids and their saintly scholars. Had you known the painstaking work, piety and sacrifice these people make you would have not doubted them and known how you pale in comparison.
I recommend reading up on the Ijazah process and it's types to understand how they preserved the rope to Mohammad(SAW). A process still used today by Ulema. The site below is a good one; it applies to Qirat but the same process is also applied to Muffassirs, Muhaddiths etc:
http://www.therightfulrecital.com/20...ijazah-part-1/

knowing Arabic is not enough to interpret the Injunctions of Qur'an and Sunnah. Please read these for understanding:
http://theislamicreality.blogspot.co...-of-quran.html

In order to protect the Shariah from the danger of innovation and distortion, the great scholars of usul laid down rigorous conditions which must be fulfilled by anyone wishing to claim the right of ijtihad for himself.[43] These conditions include:
(a) mastery of the Arabic language, to minimise the possibility of misinterpreting Revelation on purely linguistic grounds;
(b) a profound knowledge of the Quran and Sunnah and the circumstances surrounding the revelation of each verse and hadith, together with a full knowledge of the Quranic and hadith commentaries, and a control of all the interpretative techniques discussed above;
(c) knowledge of the specialised disciplines of hadith, such as the assessment of narrators and of the matn [text];
(d) knowledge of the views of the Companions, Followers and the great imams, and of the positions and reasoning expounded in the textbooks of fiqh, combined with the knowledge of cases where a consensus (ijma) has been reached;
(e) knowledge of the science of juridical analogy (qiyas), its types and conditions;
(f) knowledge of ones own society and of public interest (maslahah);
(g) knowing the general objectives (maqasid) of the Shariah;
(h) a high degree of intelligence and personal piety, combined with the Islamic virtues of compassion, courtesy, and modesty.
http://www.masud.co.uk/ISLAM/ahm/newmadhh.htm

Sis to say that the Majority has gone astray gives credence to other deviant sects in Islam and puts the authenticity of Qur'an, tafsir and books of hadiths in question.
Revelations (Wahi) came from Allah Most High to the Father of Prophets Ibrahim(AS); He was chosen by Allah Most High. But you don't have Wahi so it can only be WaasWaas from shaitan. he has clearly duped you into beleiving such notions:

Imam Al-Ghazali(RA): “The student needs a mursyid or teacher whom he is able to follow so that he can show him to the straight path. The path of religion is very unclear (fraught with tests and distractions), and the paths of shaitan are excessively abundant and clear. Therefore, if a person does not have a Sheikh to guide him, then certainly shaitan will accompany him towards his path. Whoever treads a treacherous path without a guide, then he has placed himself in great danger and destroys himself. His future is akin to a tree that grows by itself. That tree shrivels in a short period of time. If it manages to survive and sprouts leaves, it will not be able to bear fruit. What becomes the conviction of a student is his Sheikh. Therefore, he should hold firm onto him. (Abu Hamid Al-Ghazali Al-Hujjatul Islam Imam Al-Ghazali, Ihya Ulumuddin, vol. 3, page 65)

And in order to support them you have been nit-picking what you take from the Qur'an and books of Hadith. To enforce your illusions of granduer you make conjectures and apply them to other Muslims to make them a deviants whom Allah Most High should put in Hell. Do you have Ilmul-Ghayb?
What does it say about condition of the Heart of one who seeks ways to condemn their Brothers and Sisters?

"Due to Allah's mercy, you are gentle with them. Had you been severe and harsh hearted, they would have fled from around you."Allah said in the Qur'an (3:159):
“Allah will not be merciful to those who are not merciful to the people.”Sahih Bukhari 6941, Sahih Muslim 2319

So..."Hold firmly to the rope of Allah all together and do not become divided" ..(3:103)

Sis I advise you devote some practice nafl Ibadat (recite Qur'an, Fast, Tahajjud) and keep doing Istikhara on "whether you are on Haqq". It may not be apparent from what I have said ... but I am concerned.

The Seas are turbulent but at least my vision is clear; Alhamdullilah.

Speaking of Ibn Taymiah(RA):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Od2rwGwwj3E

Familiarise yourself with the laws of Allah then look at who's implementing them and who's not and you'll not need this flood of verbiage to drown what your heart and mind already know!

-----." But none had believed with him, except a few.

all the best,

format_quote Originally Posted by Abz2000

I once heard Anwar Awlaki say that 'umar (ra) was informed of the discovery of the pristine body of a prophet (possibly daniel), and he ordered that a swarm of graves be dug, and had it buried at night in order to prevent people from venerating it, and that he (ra) had the tree at hudaybiyyah under which the oath of allegiance took place cut down when he (ra) saw people were going to it for blessing.
When you put that into the correct context, you notice that he (ra) was attempting to save the people from shirk,

I heard all his lectures too but never heard that... hmmmm...

Bro can you clarify...

Zakariah(AS) supplicated immediately in the place Maryam(AS) was receiving food from Jannah in their. This is because the chance of supplications being accepted in blessed lands is higher.

This is why people pray near graves of that are reputed to be Saints. Imam Nawawi:
Imam al-Nawawi (d. 676 AH) has mentioned that 'Imarat al-Qubur in the case of the Anbiya` (prophets), 'Ulama` (scholars) and Salihin (righteous persons) is allowed:
Source: "Rawdhat al-Talibin"

Explained from Quran an Sunnah:
https://archive.org/details/WaseelaTawassulinIslam

Also how do you know that person has committed Shirk? It's an internal issue. One of the first man to be thrown in hell will be renowned for fighting in the way of Allah Most High but Allah Most High will say he fought for fame and not Him(Shirk).

format_quote Originally Posted by جوري

Familiarise yourself with the laws of Allah then look at who's implementing them and who's not and you'll not need this flood of verbiage to drown what your heart and mind already know!

-----." But none had believed with him, except a few.

all the best,

O Really?

Good luck on your path!

It is recommended that one prays for a person in a grave, and sends salat and salam on him, however it is shirk to pray near a grave with the assumption that the signal strength/reception will be stronger due to the presence of the person in the grave - God doesn't rely on 3g towers to intercept messages.Having said that, one may feel closer to Allah when one visits the grave of a righteous person due to the fact that one is reminded of all the good deeds and it has caused one to contemplate more (although this can also be done anywhere).
Actually, believing in the intercession of dead saints, amulets, stars etc are all shirk.
It is recorded in Sahih Muslim; one day after a night’s rain, the Messenger of Allah SAWS said to his Companions:
“Do you know what your Lord says?”
They said, “Allah and His Messenger know best.”
He said: “He says: “This morning some of My servants became believers in Me, and some became disbelievers.
As for the one who said, “We have been given rain by the mercy and grace of Allah.” He is a believer in Me and a disbeliever in the stars.
As for the one who said, “We have been given rain by such and such a star,” he is a disbeliever in Me and believer in the stars.”
[Muslim 1:83]

format_quote Originally Posted by Abz2000

It is recommended that one prays for a person in a grave, and sends salat and salam on him, however it is shirk to pray near a grave with the assumption that the signal strength/reception will be stronger due to the presence of the person in the grave - God doesn't rely on 3g towers to intercept messages.

I agree. It's not about being dependent on the land to contact Allah Most High. However it is about giving importance to what Allah Most High gives importance to gain His favors. Zakharia(AS) immediately supplicated once he new Mariam(AS) was receiving food from the Heavens in that place. He used what Allah Most High gave importance to in order to increase the blessings received from the Dua.

But if someone thinks that a blessed land alone suffices then that would be Shirk! However if they thought Allah Most High gives the area importance then uses that to seek His blessings it wouldn't be because that would still be reliant on the blessings of Allah Most High.

So it is still an internal issue. You can't determine what the person intended! So are you then going to blow up the blessed land or educate them on Tawhid?

Having said that, one may feel closer to Allah when one visits the grave of a righteous person due to the fact that one is reminded of all the good deeds and it has caused one to contemplate more (although this can also be done anywhere).Actually, believing in the intercession of dead saints, amulets, stars etc are all shirk.It is recorded in Sahih Muslim; one day after a night’s rain, the Messenger of Allah SAWS said to his Companions: “Do you know what your Lord says?” They said, “Allah and His Messenger know best.” He said: “He says: “This morning some of My servants became believers in Me, and some became disbelievers. As for the one who said, “We have been given rain by the mercy and grace of Allah.” He is a believer in Me and a disbeliever in the stars. As for the one who said, “We have been given rain by such and such a star,” he is a disbeliever in Me and believer in the stars.”[Muslim 1:83]

Again this is an internal issue. Khalid Ibn Al-Waleed(RA) sought the blessings from the hair of Mohammad(SAW) and attached it to his turban. Did he commit Shirk? No!

But had someone attached something thinking it alone; independent of Allah Most High, will determine his success then it would be Shirk.

So on what basis can you infer the Muslim commited Shirk purely on what is apparent on the outside?