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    Muslim children forced to drop 'religious' names in western China (OP)


    Saturday 3 June 2017

    Children under 16 told ‘overly religious’ names such as Saddam, Hajj and Jihad must be changed amid pro-Communist rallies across Xinjiang region

    Muslim children in China’s far western Xinjiang region are being forced to change their “religious” names and adults are being coerced into attending rallies showing devotion to the officially atheist Communist party.

    During Ramadan, the authorities in Xinjiang have ordered all children under 16 to change names where police have determined they are “overly religious”. As many as 15 names have been banned, including Islam, Quran, Mecca, Jihad, Imam, Saddam, Hajj, Medina and Arafat, according to Radio Free Asia.

    In April authorities banned certain names for newborns that were deemed to have religious connotations, but the new order expands forced name changes to anyone under 16, the age at which Chinese citizens are issued a national identity card.

    The order coincided with millions gathering at 50,000 individual rallies across Xinjiang this week to pledge allegiance to the Communist party. More than a quarter of the region’s population sang the national anthem at 9am on 29 May and pledged allegiance to the Communist party, according to state media reports.

    Xinjiang’s Muslims mostly belonging to the Uighur ethnic group, a Turkic people. The region has occasionally seen sporadic violence which China blames on international terrorist groups. But overseas observers say the vast majority of incidents are a result of local grievances.

    Full article: https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-western-china
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    Muslim children forced to drop 'religious' names in western China

    From Occupied Palestine:

    We have suffered too much for too long. We will not accept apartheid masked as peace. We will settle for no less than our freedom.




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    Re: Muslim children forced to drop 'religious' names in western China

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    Another update.




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    Re: Muslim children forced to drop 'religious' names in western China

    This is a pressing issue that the world needs to focus on. The Chinese government has been destroying the culture of Uyghur Muslims and forcing them out of their faith. Mosques are destroyed on a routine basis, 're-education' camps set up, and even forced sterilizations.
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    Re: Muslim children forced to drop 'religious' names in western China

    Salaam

    Another update.







    Good insight into how China operates.

    Blurb

    "China is an empire pretending to be a country"

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    Re: Muslim children forced to drop 'religious' names in western China

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    Like to share.

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    Concentration Camps are cool again. There are massive differences in detail and degree, but the fact remains, China, India and the United States are all operating detention camps and it is nauseating.





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    Re: Muslim children forced to drop 'religious' names in western China

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    UNGA has come and gone, but not much said about the Uighurs plight.


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    Re: Muslim children forced to drop 'religious' names in western China

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    Politics is a dirty business but Imran Khans fawning is nauseating.





    Meanwhile.


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    Re: Muslim children forced to drop 'religious' names in western China

    Salaam

    This post help us understand Chinese attitudes to outlying provinces.

    a different perspective on Hong Kong

    An update on the Hong Kong situation from a mainlander:


    I wanted to send this to you last week but the outside internet has been completely inaccessible in China for the past two weeks because of the National Day holiday. They do this every year but it's particularly bad this year.

    A few days ago the ENTIRE Hong Kong metro system was closed because the "protesters" went on a rampage in response to a new law making it illegal to wear a mask in public. Every single metro station. Imagine if that had happened in a major American city of ten million people, what the police and the National Guard would do.

    Pat Buchanan has an article in which he states, "The people of Hong Kong, who are surely being cheered by many on the mainland of China ..." All respect to Pat Buchanan but he doesn't understand this situation at all.

    There is mutual hatred between Hong Kong and mainland people. NO ONE on the mainland is cheering the Hong Kong protesters. They think Hong Kong people are a bunch of spoiled brats who are now wrecking their own city and being used by the West because they think they're better than mainland people. And Hong Kong people, meanwhile, think they ARE better than mainland people because they've had the benefit of a hundred years of imposed quasi-Western civilization and the result is a more well-mannered people and a more orderly society in a higher-quality environment.

    But Hong Kong has been going downhill for decades now, due to various reasons that are not reducible to a simple statement, and the mainland has been in the ascendancy. But regardless, if Beijing sends in the troops, (which I don't think they will do because the bad PR outweighs any other benefit; they'll probably just let Hong Kong burn because they don't really need it) I assure you that the vast majority of mainland Chinese will applaud this decision and love their government even more, seeing it as just desserts for a bunch of spoiled traitors, i.e. Chinese who don't want to be Chinese and who collude with the yang guizi (foreign devils).

    The global media would of course use any move by Beijing as a way to paint China as the new Nazis. You can see this narrative already developing and being pushed by Bannon and others, as well as the Hong Kong protesters themselves, who are quite obviously trying to provoke a violent response. But for the mainland Chinese, it would only solidify their sense of "us against the world." My fear is that the people who want the next big war are actively pushing in this direction. I hope that Trump and Xi Jinping really are friendly, because they're increasingly looking like Kennedy and Khrushchev.

    http://voxday.blogspot.com/2019/10/m...hong-kong.html

    a response from Hong Kong

    A native of Hong Kong responds to yesterday's email from a mainlander.


    I am born and raised in Hong Kong and are currently lived in the city for the past 5 years.

    The reason why people oppose the government and react the way they do is simply the lack of trust for the government.

    The mainland mailer is correct in a sense the Hong Kong people are spoiled brats because we have been at peace prospering for as long as this generation remembers. And so they are all boomer-like in a sense that they believe in lies that the government tells its people and such.

    What Carrie Lam, the chief executive in Hong Kong, did that outraged the people is the obvious show of brute force that essentially served as a wake-up slap to the public. And they, being spoiled by peace, are throwing a fit.

    We don’t hate the mainland Chinese people, However their tourists actions are equal that of an illegal immigrant from Mexico to the US. They have no intention of abiding by our cultural rules, I have personally seen two incidents where they openly defecate in the street, even outside the public bathroom!

    Due to multiple incidents of fake and poison milk powders, they raid our food supply.The major city centres close to the broader have been turned to a mainland China city-like environment. The obvious cultural erosion has been putting pressure in the bomb for about 10 years now. And now is the result of the explosion.

    http://voxday.blogspot.com/2019/10/m...hong-kong.html
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    Re: Muslim children forced to drop 'religious' names in western China

    Salaam

    Another update.




    China ‘building cark parks and playgrounds’ over Uighur Muslim graveyards ‘to eradicate ethnic group’s identity’

    Comes as US imposes travel bans on Chinese officials involved in ‘campaign of repression’ of Muslims


    China has destroyed scores of traditional burial grounds belonging to Uighur Muslims in the northwestern Xinjiang province, in what critics say is part of a campaign to wipe out the minority group’s cultural identity.

    Satellite images analysed by Earthwise Alliance and published on Wednesday showed flattened earth, new car parks or standardised facilities in places that once housed the remains of Uighur families going back generations.

    It comes as the allegations against China of persecution towards the Uighur people became a key aspect of the ongoing trade war between the US and Beijing.

    Late on Tuesday, the US State Department announced travel bans directed at Chinese officials over the Xinjiang crackdown, saying it would not issue any visas for those known to be involved in what Mike Pompeo called the “campaign of repression”.

    And it followed an announcement a day earlier by the US Commerce Department, which blacklisted 28 Chinese companies – mostly tech firms – and government agencies over the Uighur issue.

    “The protection of human rights is of fundamental importance, and all countries must respect their human rights obligations and commitments,” Mr Pompeo said. “The United States will continue to review its authorities to respond to these abuses.”

    China is believed to have detained more than a million people from mostly Muslim ethnic minorities in Xinjiang since a counterterrorism campaign began in 2017, while those who are free are subjected to heightened levels of scrutiny and surveillance.

    But while the UN has raised concerns at the highest level over the fate of the Uighurs, China insists its use of what it calls voluntary “vocational training” centres in the province is a legitimate tactic to prevent the spread of extremism.

    The Chinese crackdown goes far beyond detentions, however, with policies including the destruction of mosques and the separation of children from their parents amounting to what some researchers have termed “cultural genocide”.

    Salih Hudayar, a Uighur in exile who told the AFP news agency the graveyard where his great-grandparents were buried had been demolished, said the destruction of burial grounds was an attempt “to disconnect us from our history”.

    “This is all part of China’s campaign to effectively eradicate any evidence of who we are, to effectively make us like the Han Chinese,” he said.

    AFP reporters who visited some of the destroyed burial grounds described seeing unearthed bones, which independent forensic experts said were human remains.

    Even the tombs of famous Uighurs were not spared. AFP reported that an enormous graveyard where the prominent Uighur poet Lutpulla Mutellip was buried had been turned into a “Happiness Park” with a man-made lake, fake pandas and a playground for children. Officials said that while the graves had been relocated to a more “standardised” facility, they did not know what had happened to Mutellip’s remains.

    China has responded to the US measures over Xinjiang in a tit-for-tat manner, saying on Wednesday that it planned tighter visa restrictions of its own for any US nationals with what it called ties to “anti-China groups”.

    The new rules would include drafting a list of US military and CIA-linked institutions and rights groups, and the addition of their employees to a visa blacklist, sources in Beijing told the Reuters news agency.

    China has previously accused the US of using such organisations to incite anti-government protests both in mainland China and, most prominently, in Hong Kong, which has seen growing unrest since June.

    The measures and counter-measures come amid souring relations between the world’s two largest economies, even as they prepare to reopen trade negotiations in Washington on Thursday.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a9148996.html

    I dont think we should take the US govt concern too seriously, US and China are currently engaged in a trade war. The Uighurs will be ditched if they resolve their differences.
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    Re: Muslim children forced to drop 'religious' names in western China

    Salaam

    More comment.



    even after Stalinist period, Khrushchev made every effort to disseminate atheism (even among some Muslim rulers - he twice tried to *convert* Iraqi dictator Abdul-Salam Arif, who refused both occasions) yet this was the peak of Soviet relations with many Muslim regimes.

    Similarly other empires may not persecute their internal minorities the way China does (which should be acknowledged), but have in a different way killed 10s of 1000s of Muslims under barely concealed "crusades". Yet nobody would consider blacklisting them at state level.

    Among other things, in this sense the outrage that Mahathir/Erdogan/esp Imran have not mentioned China is fairly hollow, even if it comes from a good place (I would say the same of scumbag monarchs who rub shoulders with Modi before anybody brings up the "Paki propaganda" angle)

    Nobody managed to rescue every Muslims inna world or fight off every anti-Muslim oppressor at once - that too with words. So while it's sad that XYZ ruler mentions one tyrant & not another, I'd argue not nearly as "hypocritical" as ppl claim THOUGH society SHOULD pressure them

    It IS completely deplorable and scummy that Muslims, including ppl in regimes, actually SUPPORT, diplomatically or otherwise, anti-Muslim activity by any government. That includes China and others, incl its rivals. letter praising Beijing deserves every criticism it gets & more

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...555460096.html

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    Re: Muslim children forced to drop 'religious' names in western China

    China is basically Nazi Germany. And those who hand over any ughuirs to China is like those who helped Nazi Germany.

    China needs to collapse.
    Muslim children forced to drop 'religious' names in western China

    Meaning of Shirk according to The Qur'an
    " Worshipping anyone or anything besides Allah " or " distributing anything exclusive to Allah, to anyone or anything else "

    Meaning of Tawheed according to The Qur'an
    Worshipping none but Allah. Affirming whatever is exclusive to Him, Him alone.

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    Re: Muslim children forced to drop 'religious' names in western China

    Salaam

    Another update.



    Malaysia bans comic book for being pro-China and 'promoting communism'

    Issues of a comic book about China's Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) have been seized in Malaysia after the government said it "promotes communism and socialism and its content could cause confusion."

    The comic, written by Malaysian author and politician Hew Kuan Yau, seeks to "spread false, misleading facts about communists while trying to generate support and sympathy for the communist struggle," the Home Ministry said in a statement.

    It added that the comic -- titled "Belt and Road Initiative for Win-Winism" -- could sow dissent among communities in multi-racial and multi-religious Malaysia, saying its content might jeopardize public order and security. One drawing shows a veiled woman standing in front of a detention camp with a caption suggesting that Malays who support China's Muslim Uyghurs are radicals.

    The comic was banned under the Printing Presses and Publication Act, meaning that anyone found guilty of printing, importing, producing, publishing, selling or distributing it faces up to three years in prison and a fine of up to 20,000 Malaysian ringgit ($4,775).

    On Monday, Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad weighed in, saying: "I believe that China will have a great influence over the whole world in the future but, for the moment, it is not for us to promote Chinese ideas and ideology."

    Mahathir, who has criticized the administration of disgraced former leader Najib Razak for being too close to China, said that "as much as we do not want the influence of the West in our strategies, in our schools, we also do not want other countries to have undue influence over our young people."

    After coming to power in May, Mahathir cancelled several projects linked to China's Belt and Road initiative, Beijing's sprawling trade and infrastructure megaproject, citing excessive costs.

    Not approved

    On October 17, Malaysia's Education Ministry stressed in a statement that it had not given approval for the comic's distribution, according to the state-run Bernama news agency. All state education departments and district education offices have been instructed to ensure that schools no longer accept or distribute the comic, it added.

    Further controversy was stirred after a picture emerged showing Chinese President Xi Jinping holding the comic -- with Mahathir looking on -- during the Belt and Road Summit and Forum in Beijing in April.

    "The book was not an official gift during the meeting and it (the comic) was brought in without going through proper procedures and channels," the Prime Minister's Office said in a statement last week.

    Following the ban on Wednesday, the Home Ministry started seizing the remaining issues still in circulation. It confiscated 13 copies from the Asia Comic Cultural Museum in Georgetown, according to Bernama.

    'Not anti-China'

    Hew is a former member of the Democratic Action Party, which belongs to the ruling Pakatan Harapan coalition. He was forced to quit the party in 2016 after writing a Facebook post in support of China's claims in the South China Sea, despite Kuala Lumpur being a claimant in the dispute.

    On Thursday, he resigned from his position as CEO of the Malaysia-Chinese Business Council to ensure its "smooth operation," according to a statement he posted on Facebook.

    "I have spent half my life fighting for the betterment of Malaysia," he said. "Fortunately, the new Malaysia has an independent judiciary and an increasingly clean political culture. However, as for ethnic equality and social freedom, I believe these are far from ideal."

    Previous Malaysian governments often relied on the country's draconian speech laws to go after critics,
    The comic was distributed in some of the country's high schools last week, quickly going viral and sparking a debate about its content.

    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/10/25/a...mpression=true
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    Re: Muslim children forced to drop 'religious' names in western China

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    Male Chinese ‘Relatives’ Assigned to Uyghur Homes Co-sleep With Female ‘Hosts’

    Male Han Chinese “relatives” assigned to monitor the homes of Uyghur families in northwest China’s Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region (XUAR) regularly sleep in the same beds as the wives of men detained in the region’s internment camps, according to sources who have overseen the forced stayovers.

    Since late 2017, Muslim—and particularly Uyghur—families in the XUAR have been required to invite officials into their homes and provide them with information about their lives and political views, while hosts are also subjected to political indoctrination.

    The “Pair Up and Become Family” program is one of several repressive policies targeting Uyghurs in the region, which have also seen the build out of a vast network of camps, where authorities have held up to 1.5 million Uyghurs and other Muslim ethnic minorities accused of harboring “strong religious views” and “politically incorrect” ideas since April 2017.

    RFA’s Uyghur Service recently spoke about the program with a ruling Communist Party cadre in Kashgar (in Chinese, Kashi) prefecture’s Yengisar (Yingjisha) county, who said that 70 to 80 families in the township he oversees have Chinese, mostly male, “relatives” that stay for up to six days at each household—many of which have male family members in detention.

    “The ‘relatives’ come to visit us here every two months … they stay with their paired relatives day and night,” he said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

    “They help [the families] with their ideology, bringing new ideas. They talk to them about life, during which time they develop feelings for one another.”

    In addition to working and eating together, over the course of the week that they spend with their Uyghur hosts the officials even sleep in the same bed as family members, the cadre said, particularly during the winter.

    “Normally one or two people sleep in one bed, and if the weather is cold, three people sleep together,” he said.

    When asked whether any families have spoken out against male officials staying at their homes, particularly in situations where no male family members are present because they have been detained in camps, the cadre said that on the contrary, “they are very keen, and offer them whatever they have.”

    “We also try to help them to make proper [sleeping] arrangements,” he said.

    Reports suggest that Uyghurs who protest hosting “relatives” as part of the Pair Up and Become Family program, or refuse to take part in study sessions or other activities with the officials in their homes, are subject to additional restrictions or could face detention in the camp system.

    According to the cadre, if a household does not have a bed, family members and “relatives” all sleep on the same sleeping platform, with a small amount of space between one another.

    “If the width of the room is three meters (10 feet), the platform tends to be approximately two and half meters (eight feet),” he said.

    “If everyone can fit, they all sleep there.”

    The cadre said he had “never heard” of any situations in which male officials had attempted to take advantage of female members of the households they stayed in, and suggested “it is now considered normal for females to sleep on the same platform with their paired male ‘relatives.’”

    The head of a local neighborhood committee in Yengisar county, who also declined to be named, confirmed that male officials regularly sleep in the same beds or sleeping platforms with female members of Uyghur households during their home stays.

    “Yes, they all sleep on the same platform,” the committee chief said, adding that it is considered acceptable for “relatives” and hosts to keep a distance of one meter (three feet) between them at night.

    No women have complained about the situation of co-sleeping, he said, and local officials have promoted the practice as a means by which to “promote ethnic unity.”

    ‘Forced assimilation’

    According to New York-based Human Rights Watch (HRW), in December 2017, authorities greatly expanded the October 2016 Pair Up and Become Family drive—which saw more than 100,000 officials visit mostly Uyghur homes in southern XUAR every two months—to mobilize more than a million cadres to spend a week living in homes, primarily in rural areas.

    The “home stay” program was extended in early 2018 and cadres now spend at least five days every two months in the families’ homes, HRW said, adding that “there is no evidence to suggest that families can refuse such visits.”

    Activities that take place during visits are documented in reports with accompanying photos—many of which can be found on the social media accounts of participating agencies—and show scenes of “relatives” involved in intimate aspects of domestic life, such as making beds and sleeping together, sharing meals, and feeding and tutoring children. There is no indication the families have consented to posting these images online.

    HRW has called the home stays an example of “deeply invasive forced assimilation practices” and said they “not only violate basic rights, but are also likely to foster and deepen resentment in the region.”

    Dolkun Isa, the president of the Munich-based World Uyghur Congress exile group, has said the “Pair Up and Become Family” campaign represents the “total annihilation of the safety, security and well-being of family members,” and that the program has “turned Uyghurs’ homes into prisons from which there is no escape.”

    In July RFA spoke with a township and a village secretary in Hotan (Hetian) prefecture who both said that when “relatives” stay with their families to teach them the Chinese language and extol the virtues of Beijing’s policies in the region—often for around one week—they bring alcohol and meat that includes pork, and expect family members to consume them, against the principles of “halal” that govern what Muslims can eat and drink.

    “We are not so insane as to tell them that we are Muslim, so we cannot eat the things they eat,” the secretary said at the time.

    https://www.rfa.org/english/news/uyg...019160528.html

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    Re: Muslim children forced to drop 'religious' names in western China

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    Another update. Beyond appalling.





    Edit - Good discussion.

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    Muslim Uighur women who's husbands are in prison are forced to share their beds with Chinese government appointed "relatives" (whom they are not related to) and are obliged to make sure that they are shown a good time so as to avoid being sent to a concentration camp. Rukiye Turdush, writer/activist, describes how vulnerable these women are as the world watches.

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    Good question.




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    Quote Originally Posted by sister herb View Post
    Saturday 3 June 2017

    Children under 16 told ‘overly religious’ names such as Saddam, Hajj and Jihad must be changed amid pro-Communist rallies across Xinjiang region

    Muslim children in China’s far western Xinjiang region are being forced to change their “religious” names and adults are being coerced into attending rallies showing devotion to the officially atheist Communist party.

    During Ramadan, the authorities in Xinjiang have ordered all children under 16 to change names where police have determined they are “overly religious”. As many as 15 names have been banned, including Islam, Quran, Mecca, Jihad, Imam, Saddam, Hajj, Medina and Arafat, according to Radio Free Asia.

    In April authorities banned certain names for newborns that were deemed to have religious connotations, but the new order expands forced name changes to anyone under 16, the age at which Chinese citizens are issued a national identity card.

    The order coincided with millions gathering at 50,000 individual rallies across Xinjiang this week to pledge allegiance to the Communist party. More than a quarter of the region’s population sang the national anthem at 9am on 29 May and pledged allegiance to the Communist party, according to state media reports.

    Xinjiang’s Muslims mostly belonging to the Uighur ethnic group, a Turkic people. The region has occasionally seen sporadic violence which China blames on international terrorist groups. But overseas observers say the vast majority of incidents are a result of local grievances.

    Full article: https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-western-china
    May Allah help those boys and also may Allah show the right path to china Government....


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